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Dooby Dooby Doo (Doobydoobydoo)
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Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 11:38 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Welp, having limited access to manure, we decided to go to the local pet store and spend $3 on a bag of straw to fluff up what we did have left - A bit of cow manure, and some worm castings.



The prep - cut up some straw, soaked it overnight, drained, mixed with manure or worm castings, cooked in oven at 160f for 2 1/2 - 3 hrs, let cool, spawned.


First, the cheap straw. (And yes, I know we could have gotten a bale but we had no room to keep it and had to go to the pet store anyway)

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And now we first work with some manure/straw. Mix it up, cook it up.


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Looks a bit dry, but it really isn't. The straw was still damp to the touch.
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Dooby Dooby Doo (Doobydoobydoo)
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Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 11:42 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now for adding it to the tubs and spawning. Here are three tubs in order, A, B, C.



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Dooby Dooby Doo (Doobydoobydoo)
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Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 11:43 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Next, the same thing, only with 2 tubs of worm castings because we had no manure left. :-)


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Dooby Dooby Doo (Doobydoobydoo)
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Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 11:46 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And now, two days after spawning A, B, C, we have the following:


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. . . away we go . . .


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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 08:26 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

good luck

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Eatyualive (Eatyualive)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 07:12 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

your moisture content looks really dry and you may want to use quite a bit more spawn and fully cover the entire thing so that it colonizes quickly!
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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 01:20 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It looks like you purchased Hay and not Straw. Hay has a greater chance of contamination. Pet stores typically carry "Timothy Hay." Michaels or other craft stores are the places to get straw if you don't have a feed store nearby.

The tip off was the green color of the hay.

Good luck though.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 02:05 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

The tip off was the green color of the hay.



i was just getting ready to mention that.

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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 06:42 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

great minds think alike
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Dooby Dooby Doo (Doobydoobydoo)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 03:55 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After checking, it does appear to be hay. :-) So, we got some hay/poo and some hay/worm castings. :-) Ah well, cows and horses eat it, so we'll see what happens. :-)

Low moisture content? Nope. Quite damp actually. We're worried about the two smaller tubs (ones with castings) being too moist actually. There was a prior problem with too much moisture leading to nasty smells and our green trich friend.

Colonizing slowly, nah, see the pics below, these things are cruising right along...

A, B, C

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Expert Contam Grower (Exprtcntamgrowr)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 04:17 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tip: You can mix up to 20% hay with your straw to increase the nutritional content and improve yields. Any more than that and you greatly increase potential for contamination. Works with Oyster, haven't tried with other strains yet.


(Message edited by exprtcntamgrowr on February 10, 2004)
I grow everything very well, Green mold exceptionaly well.
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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 12:19 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lookin good doobie

did you use lime in the pasteurization process? lime greatly reduces the appearance of trich.
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Dooby Dooby Doo (Doobydoobydoo)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 05:09 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No lime so far this time. We get to eat the rest of the ones from the last batch this weekend on v-day.
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Dooby Dooby Doo (Doobydoobydoo)
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 09:45 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had my bud start misting the tubs a day or two ago. Today we cased tub C with moist verm, nothing else. The others were left as is and will only be misted, not cased. (no debates on this right now please <g>)


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In tub B we noticed some grass like stuff sprouting up! Take a look... guess it survived the oven...

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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 09:50 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good luck. Even if they contam after the first flush, you should get a nice yield on those worm castings.

Lime will definately help.
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Dooby Dooby Doo (Doobydoobydoo)
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 01:15 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, 3 are Ecuadors with hay/manure and the other 2 bins are worm castings (B+ and Ecuador). So, we get to compare manure vs worm castings. :-)
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Highflyer (Highflyer)
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 01:43 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Grass growing is a frequent occurence with baskets. Have yet to see it grow on a regular tray casing.
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Dooby Dooby Doo (Doobydoobydoo)
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 05:35 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe it'll add some oxygen to the tub for us? :-)
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Dooby Dooby Doo (Doobydoobydoo)
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Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 12:46 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It appears the lime we have been using has a high content of Mg which limits mycelium growth. This batch, no lime used, so we shall see what happens...
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 02:03 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

archive material
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Dooby Dooby Doo (Doobydoobydoo)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 02:11 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And they start to pin. Nothing yet in cased tub C.

Two pics from Tub B, look at the pretty little pins. :-) (A,B,C = hay w/ poo)

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And the two tubs with worm castings/hay are also pinning. The B+'s (1st pic) didn't colonize as well as the Ecuadors, but they're growing anyway.



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Ecuadors w/ castings/hay.

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So far looking good. More updates in a few days.
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Dooby Dooby Doo (Doobydoobydoo)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 02:17 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Another note, I stopped at Michael's Craft store tonight and found the hay which is so often spoken of. They wanted $5.95 for a bread loaf sized loose block of pre shredded hay. Ouch. I told my friend about that when I got to his place to take these pics and we decided in a week or two to just grab a whole bale for a dollar or two more and toss it in the corner of one of our yards and use it as needed... You do pay for convenience items. :-) So far, the hay is doing alright for us in the meantime.
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Tehuti (Roo)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 02:36 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any updates!?


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