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Post Number: 13277 Registered: 02-2001
| Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 11:59 am: |
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quote:The milk experiment worked also. Not a compleat success with the boiled down mimosa extract. I suspect that it will work MUCH better with a non concentrated extract. I did reduce the tannins down to the point where I could chug it without gagging. I will try it another time with a large amount of non concentrated extract. I suspect that gelatin will work better.
  
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Maliki (Maliki)
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Post Number: 90 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 03:13 pm: |
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Just a side note from me. A poor mans sepratory funnel would be in order here as it would make the seperation process a bit simpler. There simple to make. A soda bottle what ever size you need and some IV tubing with the twist lock is all you need. Drill a hole slightly smaller then the outer diameter of the twist lock on the tube into the soda bottle cap and twist it into place. An IV line crimp on the tubing and your golden . Sorry about the misplay on words Hip Hooked up it shall be.. When we share we all learn
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Post Number: 13423 Registered: 02-2001
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Tehuti (Roo)
Senior Member Username: Roo
Post Number: 694 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:50 pm: |
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I made up a batch with mimosa, used 25 grams with 30 grams caapi. I used the milk before boiling down the extract. I then boiled down the top layer. It was still pretty nasty, but an improvement. I expected some degree of potency loss. I drank the whole 100ml of extract. No loss of potency. Good GOD! 25g of mimosa is my limit! It was a full blown hyperspace transport. Coming down I watched my hand become a bird several times.. The peak was VERY intense. Extreme DMT space. Very bright visuals. Saw one elf, lots of multi colored energy balls. I did not feel alone in this space either. BE they spirits or parts of my mind, there was something else there. I saw the classic "mantis" creature just after the peak. It was sort of a blur that ran past me. After seeing that I took a hot bath to get my mind off it. This experience was very strange to me in that I could "feel" the creature run past me as I would a person! It was perhaps the only spooky thing about the experience. During and after the bath I felt very calm and euphoric. Taking a hot bath always works! I would not recommend 25g of mimosa for a first time experience! Start out with 10 to 15 and you will not blow your head off..
"You have to go out of your mind to use your head"
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DukeX (Dukex)
Advanced Member Username: Dukex
Post Number: 98 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 12:06 am: |
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I had a dream, and in this dream I had Mimosa Hostilis and Peganum Harmala and I began to prepare. Peace... "Proud to be American"
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Post Number: 13840 Registered: 02-2001
| Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 12:11 am: |
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quote:I used the milk before boiling down the extract. I then boiled down the top layer. It was still pretty nasty, but an improvement.
are you using milk out of the carton ? i would think powdered milk might be more useful as you can concentrate it without adding extra fluids
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Tehuti (Roo)
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Post Number: 705 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 12:21 am: |
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I had a dream, and in this dream I had Mimosa Hostilis and Peganum Harmala and I began to prepare. Peace... LOL! Actualy it was my weed eating cat that brewed that stuff up... I was covering for him untill I found him behind the couch eating one of my sativa treats again! "You have to go out of your mind to use your head"
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Tehuti (Roo)
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Post Number: 706 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 12:25 am: |
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I am not a fan of Peganum Harmala. I find caapi to be better on the body. Peganum Harmala would only be used as a last resort. "You have to go out of your mind to use your head"
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DukeX (Dukex)
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Post Number: 103 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 12:56 am: |
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"weed eating cat that brewed that stuff up"
Well I will consider this (caapi) in my next dream, was hoping my supplies would come in today but not. Roo's cat what would you recommend for a introduction with the vine. I mean a very low introductory dose. No hard head here, maybe a hard gut that is it. And while your at it could you share your preparation. Peace... "Proud to be American"
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Tehuti (Roo)
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Post Number: 711 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 01:17 am: |
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Just brew up 20g of caapi and consume it with nothing else. Get to know the caapi first. Caapi is nice just by itself also. Be carefull with MOAI diatary restrictions also. Then move on to caapi and viridis. You will find the effects sort of like a strong shroom trip. It is not as "goofy" though, it has a much more serious feel to it. Have a sitter around if you decide to use the viridis. The first time can send you strait to hell, but you will feel like a lifetime of shit has been removed from your mind, body and spirit after all is said and done. It is a shamanic trial... and in the end you will feel more powerfull. "You have to go out of your mind to use your head"
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Post Number: 13973 Registered: 02-2001
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 01:37 am: |
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boy, not me. first time out of the door i brewed 30 g of caapi with 30 g of fine hawaiian viridis and saw god. well, maybe not god but a friend of his.

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Tehuti (Roo)
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Post Number: 714 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 01:56 am: |
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LOL!! I guess it is just intent. My intent when I first tried it was healing. I always feel healed afterward no matter how good or bad the dream was. I only have 7 dreams under my belt. Of those 2 where very intense explorations of myself. VERY deep gut wrenching experiences. Those 2 also included deep purging. It is hard to consider that those experiences where "good" at the time but they did me more good than a thousand doses of shrooms or LSD. For me Ayahuasca/DMT seems to have a mind of its own. I can control the experiance with shrooms and LSD to a greater degree than with Ayahuasca/DMT. LOL! I learned very quickly not to try to control the dream, to just let go and allow things to happen. Sweet surrender for a one time control freak like me!
"You have to go out of your mind to use your head"
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Post Number: 13980 Registered: 02-2001
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 02:11 am: |
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quote: My intent when I first tried it was healing. I always feel healed afterward no matter how good or bad the dream was.
that was really the only thing i did NOT anticipate, being quite the skeptic i did not believe that ayahuasca was real medicine. i saw it as just another drug to try. needless to say, i was very pleasantly suprised the day after when instead of a hang-over i felt better than i had in years. the fear factor just doesn't bother me much any more, somewhere along the line i learned to let go and relax, to go with the dream.
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DukeX (Dukex)
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Post Number: 105 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 02:15 am: |
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Sweet surrender hehe, yeah I can remember one of the most joyous explorations where "let go trust and surrender" came into experience. I was out of body looking at the room from the ceiling with tears of joy poring down my face. My brother was there and he just laughed. He could never understood the place I was that evening. Peace... "Proud to be American"
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Tehuti (Roo)
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Post Number: 717 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 03:11 am: |
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Surrender seems to be the key. I think the reason I was so afraid at first was that I was for once not in control. It seems to be an ego issue. The more you fight the dream the more it tears you apart. LOL! My first time I thought I was dying! I was ready to die right then and there. I was told the experiance was a powerfull one, like a strong shroom trip, but I had NEVER been in such an intense space before. It was like I was being torn apart atom by atom and I could not stop it. I fought it and ended up in a supernova of anxiety. I let go of my anxiety and enjoyed the rest of the experiance. I find I can let go of alot of bs in my normal life easier since that time also. I dont let stupid things boil inside me and explode like I used to. It helped me to let go of things that I have no control over in my life and get on with my life. Not to worry. Thats "true" freedom in my book, and it gives me more time to fix things under my control. "You have to go out of your mind to use your head"
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Post Number: 13994 Registered: 02-2001
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 03:18 am: |
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i used to worry too about dying. so much so that i asked god about it. he laughed, and told me not to worry, that the events which would lead to my death were set in motion before i even was born. once i realized what he was saying, and saw that everything is just patterns of information, i understood that death was the illusion, not life.
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Tehuti (Roo)
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Post Number: 719 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 03:31 am: |
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Yes I used to fear death also. Letting go of that fear shure helps make life more "livable". I have been to the "unknown". I neither wish for death nor do I fear it. Its the way of the universe. "You have to go out of your mind to use your head"
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 03:34 am: |
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as we age, our pain increases until the time comes when death will come as a dear friend to ease the suffering. i'm getting there. pain really is our greatest enemy here, which makes the government's policy on pain medications the worst kind of sin against humanity.
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Tehuti (Roo)
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Post Number: 721 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 03:57 am: |
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I can deal with physical pain. I have for 8 years. Emotional pain is worse than physical pain. At least in my opinion. The "dream" helped my emotional pain like nothing else. It imersed me in it, showed it to me under a microscope. It brought things out that where hidden and made me face them rather than hide them. The green herb has helped me alot with my physical pain and problems I have had with pinched nerves etc. Its a godsend. I would not want to carry the karma those people carry who have denied us the green medicine. Its an herb, a product of nature! I can grow very dangerous herbs like beladona or Datura legaly but not weed? It makes no sense to me when it could do so many people so much good. It may not be a cure all for the terminaly ill, but it would make the last weeks or years of ones life more livable. Even to deny someone this would be to be a TRUE sin, and evil. I cannot handle most pain medication as it tears my stomach up. Strangly enough mimosa does not! With weed I can get to bed, sleep and go to work the next day with little problem. The muscle relaxing effect last a few days for me. Anyone with back or neck pain knows how great it is to sleep! "You have to go out of your mind to use your head"
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Tehuti (Roo)
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Post Number: 730 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 05:27 am: |
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My cat used to drink beer. He is much better now that he indulges in more herbal pastimes..
I think he learned to drink beer from the squirl that live next door...
The squirl has learned the power of weed also, it made a "man" of him...
"You have to go out of your mind to use your head"
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DukeX (Dukex)
Senior Member Username: Dukex
Post Number: 107 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 02:39 pm: |
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LMAO... This is the cat I am taking advice from. And I have wondered why I cant leave a beer open on the picnic table. Better hide that last pic from the girl or she will feel short changed. Peace... "Proud to be American"
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Tehuti (Roo)
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Post Number: 742 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 07:07 pm: |
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LOL! I was feeling insane lastnight.... Just a little! hehe! "You have to go out of your mind to use your head"
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grimble g grumble (Grimblegrumble)
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Post Number: 155 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 09:04 pm: |
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Well fellas, wish me luck, tonight's the night someone decided to go with 10% phosphoric acid via the "humming bird tek" from ayahuaska.com: Napolean Blownapart Group: Members Posts: 1112 Joined: May 2002 Posted: July 23 2003,18:22 -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Greetings, valued friends. I have had a lot of private requests to post about this method (as told to me by a magical hummingbird in a magical dream). It seems that it might be time to do so, here, in this forum. I hope this is the correct decision. I trust that people will use this dream imagery with great care and resposibility... and sobriety. If you dream of it, PlEASE... get the quantities right! Someone really messed that up a while back and had an unpleasant over acid reaction. Done properly, it will produce a dream brew that is a good bit less acidic than a coke, and works wonderfully. So the delightful creature appears in a dream and says... "I have used phosphoric two ways. First way is pretty much a traditional brewing , but with phos. Now, 20 drops of 10% food grade phosphoric acid in 1/2 gal of distilled water = ph3... Please be sure to get that right! So, place the herbs in the solution at a ratio of at least 20/1 solution/herbs, (by ounces). Soak 1-3 days (the longer the better), in mason jar, shake vigorously as much as is practical, (several times a day). Then simmer 3x (no boiling) for three hours or so, each simmer. For 2nd simmer, use 1/2 as much acid, for 3rd use plain distilled h2o. If you like, make the 3rd simmer longer, as you feel. Each extraction is filtered through a permanent wire mesh coffee filter, then put in fridge for at least a day to completely settle. Then carefully decant, leaving the sediment, combine, and gently reduce to 4-6 oz, total, per dream serving. This tec has (in dreams) produced exceptional results with vine/leaf combo. -------------- The final reduction is being done right now! wish me luck and thank you for all your advice! (Message edited by grimblegrumble on February 22, 2004) (Message edited by grimblegrumble on February 22, 2004) So it goes...
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Post Number: 14043 Registered: 02-2001
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 09:09 pm: |
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sounds good. bon voyage!

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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Post Number: 14044 Registered: 02-2001
| Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 09:21 pm: |
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http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ayahuasca/ayahuasc a_info1.shtml [Erowid Note: Ayahuasca is properly the term for the plant B. caapi or for brews containing that plant, however the term is now frequently used in North America (as it is here) to mean any of the DMT + Harmala concoctions.] A while back we sent out a call for good ayahuasca recipes. We asked our chefs to be as specific as possible when detailing measurements and source plants. The following recipes are some of the best examples of...Ayahuasca Brews We Have Known And Loved. Recipe One: My name is Mimosquero. Here is the methodology that works for me in preparing the Good Medicine. Source plants and quantities (These are given in one dose measurements. Please adjust accordingly): Mimosa hostilis from the Amazonian region via North American Entheogen supply. If pure root bark is used then 8 grams finely ground to a powder or stringy fiber is sufficient. If some of the root is mixed with the bark, then adjust the dosage to 12 grams. The magic is more concentrated in the root bark although the whole root does contain some. Syrian rue. 3 grams finely powdered via grinder or mortar and pestle. The seeds are difficult to grind and much effort is needed. The finer the powder the better. Distilled water treated with the juice of a lemon and 250 mg of crushed ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) is sufficient to produce an acidic aqueous solution. Place the bark and seed powder in a small stainless steel pot and bring to a low boil (barely 100 degrees C) over an open fire (with careful attention and prayer) or a hot stove (also with careful attention and prayer). Stir the brew frequently and allow to boil for about 20 minutes. More prepared acidic water should be added as needed to keep the liquid from completely boiling off. Then decant the brew and strain through a fine wire mesh. Coffee filters are too fine, but cheesecloth, panty hose, or 'permanent coffee filters' work well. Press the mush and try to squeeze out as much liquid as possible. This can be accomplished with cheesecloth or an old fashioned rag, like a cloth diaper. Boil the mush again in the prepared water and repeat the process for a total of three times. Combine the liquids and slowly simmer to a reasonable, drinkable amount. Observe the usual dietary precautions before drinking the brew. Some prefer to sip slowly, others to down the beverage as quickly as possible. The slow sipping probably reduces nausea although it prolongs the onset and lessens the intensity. Results: With pure root bark: The onset was rapid. Within 15 minutes closed eye visuals were pronounced, a feeling of losing physical boundaries was also present. There were no physical sensations other than where the skin may be there was air. The objects in the room danced with life and seemed to rush forward into the air. A definite 3-D effect. Within another five minutes the room was no longer recognizable. Reading was impossible. Geometries were overwhelming and seemed to wash over me with an orgasmic type pleasure. Traveling. It is traveling. New indescribable places were unfolding before my eyes. Everything was vibrant and alive. There was utter peace. An ever shifting play of color never ceased to make the experience boring. Voices can be heard. Music can be heard. Yet there isn't anyone here to speak or play music. A voice asks"Would you like to go deeper?" It was a female voice. Reassuring. As I would think about going deeper the colors would flow over me and bring me to new spaces - each one more bizarre than before. Impossible objects from the past were floating in space. Things like huge HP calculators, Vertibird helicopter toys. Scenes of childhood were evident. No entities. All in all a 5 hour experience Recipe Two: Here's the best recipe we've ever heard of from an alien. Fast. Simple. Very, VERY effective. [ Erowid Comment: Please note that active alkaloid levels in plant material can vary significantly from one specimen to another. Significant concern has been expressed that with high alkaloid plant material, recipe #2 could be a very high and potentially dangerous dose. ] Ingredients: 20g M. hostilis 3g. P. harmala RealLemon(tm) lemon juice Take 2g of ground P. Harmala (no preparation needed) orally. Grind 20g M. hostilis in coffee grinder to a fine, purplish powder. Create mixture of 30-40% RealLemon(tm) and water. Stir in M. Hostilis and bring to a simmer for 15 minutes. Stir frequently. Filter purple liquid through colander or mesh strainer. Add remaining plant matter to a new lemon juice & water mix and stir for another 15 minutes. Take remaining 1g P. harmala. Drain off liquid into cup (should fill it up about halfway) and drink quickly. Wait 15-20 minutes. Retch. Retch some more. Try to regain your composure and balance after dry-heaving. Lie back and listen to some didgeridoo music. Begin to think you're dying, being devoured to the clean-picked bone by a school of rainbow piranhas, submerged in the hell-realms suffering brutal tortures and repeated dismemberment at the teeth and claws of the blood-dripping minions of Lord Yama and various ferocious Mezoamerican deities like Tezcatlipoca simultaneously. Experience a complete and utter ontological meltdown at the face of imminent death. Recognize if the 'huasca kills you now you'll be caught in one of the hell-bardos for a minor eternity due to your accumulated bad karma. Keep repeating your name to remind yourself that you have a body. Shower repeatedly to wash away the overwhelming forces of evil fighting over your soul � in between rounds of projectile diarrhea. Marvel at just how full of shit you are. Panic, but try to remind yourself that time is your ally, even though each moment seems like an eternity of suffering. Remember that"this too shall pass." Believe this with the greatest skepticism. Continue this way for several hours, wondering all along if you'll actually be able to come out of the hell-worlds intact. Wake up the following morning, swearing off psychedelics for at least a very long while, still fearful of inadvertently re-invoking this terrifying state of consciousness. Go to bed the following night and reexperience this realm of consciousness during the hypnagogic state and nearly die of fright that you'll wind up in an ontological cul-de-sac someplace, dribbling down your chin until your time is up. Eat LOTS of red meat, drink alcohol, lots of Tamasic foods. Try to get grounded. The quotidian banality of three dimensions can be a sane human's best friend. Finally, several weeks later, look back on the experience without feeling a lingering sense of terror. Begin to regain some perspective. Consider trying 'la purga' again under the supervision of a very experienced shaman able to help those less experienced to finally conquer these treacherous realms (as must ultimately be done). One must go into the breach again to be fully cured. Maintain a VERY HEALTHY respect for the Vine of the Soul, recognizing that it can kill, regardless of what they say about tryptamine neurotoxicity. The tryptamines won't kill you; the heart-stoppage from unmitigated terror can, though. Recipe Three: Ayahuasca For The Whole Village Cooking equipment: 55 Gal stainless steel drum with lid 30 gal pot with lid (55 gal drum cut down) Large Gas burner Items for processing plant material: Wooden mallets Logs with flat sides for pounding surface Buckets to wash leaves Plant materials used: Banisteriopsis Caapi: 18 kilos of fresh vine Psychotria viridis: 6 kilos fresh leaves Plant preparation: The vine was cut from a plant that is approximately six years old. The diameter of the pieces was from one quarter to one inch. The pieces were cut into lengths of approximately two feet. These pieces were then pounded on a log with wooden mallets. The leaves were picked and rinsed in water. Cooking procedure: The pounded vine was layered alternately with leaves into the large cooking pot, filling it about three quarters full. Enough water was added to cover plant materials, approximately forty gallons. The lid was put on the pot and the burner turned on high. It came to a full rolling boil in about two hours. The burner was adjusted to keep the brew at a good medium boil with the lid on. After boiling all night, about ten hours, the lid was removed. It took another six hours of boiling to reduce the water to about half of the original volume. This twenty gallons of liquid was poured off into the smaller pot for further reduction, and was boiled on high heat for three hours until it was reduced to about one and a half gallons. This was set aside to cool. For a final wash, thirty gallons of water were added to the large pot with the cooked down plant material. This was once again cooked all night with the lid on and boiled down the next day. The final boil down yielded about three quarters of a gallon of liquid. This was added to the first boil down yielding about two and a quarter gallons of liquid. The brew was boiled again and poured into sterile canning jars and sealed. Dosage (results may vary): 50 ml: Euphoria, color enhancement, no nausea 100 ml: Euphoria, eyes closed visuals of geometric patterns, slight nausea 150 ml: Full on trip, geometric eyes open patterns, eyes closed visuals leading to coherent visions, some nausea It is best to consume in divided doses of 50 ml over several hours. This helps to avoid nausea and abrupt reactions. Note: Ayahuasca is powerful medicine and should not be consumed lightly or in combination with other drugs. Ayahuasca contains an MAO inhibitor, and should never be taken with an SSRI or any other prescription medications. Relative potency of ayahuasca source plants may vary, so please start with low doses to test for desired results. Use ayahuasca at your own risk. These recipes are only intended as guidelines, your results may vary. (Message edited by admin on February 22, 2004)
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