   I_am_me (I_am_me) Senior Member Username: I_am_me Post Number: 810 Registered: 10-2003 |
Woah. Does anyone happen to have 3g of syrian rue they could trade? I know someone who was going to extract dmt from mimosa but would rather try recipe 1. Also that experience seemed pretty wild....which I guess ayahuasca is. Do you think maybe 5g of mimosa would be a good starting point? I'll let my friend know.  He would be a first time brewer.Green is the colour of her kind. -Pink Floyd | ||
I_am_me (I_am_me) Senior Member Username: I_am_me Post Number: 811 Registered: 10-2003 |
I've also been reading through the archives and found some people talking about rue being more harsh and bad. People talk of cappi being better. Although I've seen several people here use rue with shrooms and such. Roo of Hippie have an opinion if Rue or Cappi would actually be better? And how much Cappi would equal 3g of Rue? Green is the colour of her kind. -Pink Floyd | ||
Tehuti (Roo) Senior Member Username: Roo Post Number: 748 Registered: 12-2003 |
"Ayahuasca For The Whole Village"} Hmmm... Sounds like a good idea. I do not think 5g would be enough, any advise hippie?} "You have to go out of your mind to use your head" | ||
Tehuti (Roo) Senior Member Username: Roo Post Number: 749 Registered: 12-2003 |
grimble g grumble Good luck please report back.. "You have to go out of your mind to use your head" | ||
Hippie3 (Admin) Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 14048 Registered: 02-2001 |
better is a hard word for me, both rue and caapi are effective. use what you got, that's my advice. (Message edited by admin on February 23, 2004)  | ||
Tehuti (Roo) Senior Member Username: Roo Post Number: 750 Registered: 12-2003 |
Go for 20-30 grams of caapi... "You have to go out of your mind to use your head" | ||
I_am_me (I_am_me) Senior Member Username: I_am_me Post Number: 812 Registered: 10-2003 |
Yeah I was just going with the recipe as above...that was 8 grams or bark and 3 grams Rue. It seemed quite intense so I figured he could maybe brew two doses of 5g mimosa. Drink one...wait a few hours and if it wasn't sufficient drink the second. I'm reading up on it for him and printing out info for him. He might not get to brew for another month or so...but will report back. Green is the colour of her kind. -Pink Floyd | ||
Tehuti (Roo) Senior Member Username: Roo Post Number: 751 Registered: 12-2003 |
Caapi just seems less harsh to me.. Just my opinion. The dosage sounds good for a first time experiance. (Message edited by roo on February 22, 2004) "You have to go out of your mind to use your head" | ||
I_am_me (I_am_me) Senior Member Username: I_am_me Post Number: 813 Registered: 10-2003 |
 Appreciate it. He might get some free time in the next couple of weeks. Will report... By the way...I think he'll use like 35% or so real lemon juice with water...is the a specific ph target for the water? (Message edited by I_am_me on February 22, 2004) Green is the colour of her kind. -Pink Floyd | ||
Hippie3 (Admin) Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 14051 Registered: 02-2001 |
that's too much juice, the taste would be horrid. target ph is what, like around 3 ? | ||
DukeX (Dukex) Senior Member Username: Dukex Post Number: 108 Registered: 01-2004 |
Everything I have read said ph between 2 - 4. I use a ph meter cause I have one takes some guess work out if it. Next full moon will be my next adventure. I also use then recipe labeled #1. Roo when are you making that batch for the village.  Peace... (Message edited by dukex on February 22, 2004) "Proud to be American" | ||
Tehuti (Roo) Senior Member Username: Roo Post Number: 752 Registered: 12-2003 |
LOL! I do plan on hosting something this summer with a group of like minded people. 2 of these people are long time caapi/viridis brewers. I will have to realy work on my brewing skills before then. My brews are just as strong but I cannot get the same quality of taste down. I guess its just a matter of practice. LOL! "You have to go out of your mind to use your head" | ||
I_am_me (I_am_me) Senior Member Username: I_am_me Post Number: 815 Registered: 10-2003 |
Oh...I was just reffering to a post I had read. What would you say the water to lemon juice ratio is roughly? Of course ph strips will be present...but any idea on a basic ratio? The recipe for rue and mimosa says distilled water treated with lemon juice and 250 mg of vitamin c. Green is the colour of her kind. -Pink Floyd | ||
DukeX (Dukex) Senior Member Username: Dukex Post Number: 109 Registered: 01-2004 |
Who says you have to go to the amazon for a shamanic journey. Sounds like a wonderful time.  Peace... "Proud to be American" | ||
grimble g grumble (Grimblegrumble) Senior Member Username: Grimblegrumble Post Number: 156 Registered: 12-2003 |
Ok... Well... I screwed up... I used 35 grams each of caapi/viridis brewed it fine drank the vine waited about 30 mins then drank the viridis  and in 15 minutes  and no I didn't listen to Hippie only made one dose was afraid, being first time to screw up on more Well I feel the vine and I started to feel something but now all the dmt is gone down the drain I'll chalk this one up as a learning experience but I not giving up! Next time! Next week! So it goes... | ||
Tehuti (Roo) Senior Member Username: Roo Post Number: 755 Registered: 12-2003 |
Shit happens! Keep trying. How did you prepare the viridis? 35 g might be too much for you the first time. How fast did you drink the viridis? Go slow.. "You have to go out of your mind to use your head" | ||
grimble g grumble (Grimblegrumble) Senior Member Username: Grimblegrumble Post Number: 157 Registered: 12-2003 |
I drank it in like 10 minutes...it was soooo gritty. That's what sent me running to the bathroom. I think next time I will filter it better. For this time I thought I would try using my french press to filter, but it still left too much grit. I was thinking maybe I shouldn't grind the leaf so fine next time. Fresh viridis would be sooo much better. I've gotta grow some eventually. Maybe I should just make one brew and drink it all at once. I can usually hold most anything down for 45min to 1hr. That was about how long it had been since I had drank the vine till I lost it right after finishing the viridis. If I had drank it all at once I would have been fine. Anyway, at least I know my vine brew was good I can still feel that. oh well, I still have some caapi, chacruna and chaliponga to try, try again! So it goes... | ||
Hippie3 (Admin) Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 14080 Registered: 02-2001 |
that's how i do it, i mean, why press your luck ? i tried it apart once but my belly knew what was coming and i couldn't stop gagging long enough to get it down. so now i just gulp down the whole brew as fast as possible. | ||
Hippie3 (Admin) Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 14081 Registered: 02-2001 |
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Hippie3 (Admin) Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 14082 Registered: 02-2001 |
close to 30:1 or more. | ||
I_am_me (I_am_me) Senior Member Username: I_am_me Post Number: 833 Registered: 10-2003 |
The the method to try it says to put the Rue and Mimosa ground up in the same pot and boil. Would you guys recommend doing them seperate? Also if not seperate and you were intending on brewing two doses just in case......would you suggest leaving one without the Rue? Seems best not to if your first batch doesn't work out so you could just brew one batch with just mimosa right? Thanks! Green is the colour of her kind. -Pink Floyd | ||
Hippie3 (Admin) Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 14101 Registered: 02-2001 |
no, and no. at least, not me. i see no good reason to brew/keep the apart. | ||
I_am_me (I_am_me) Senior Member Username: I_am_me Post Number: 840 Registered: 10-2003 |
Alrighty. ;) Thanks for the help. Green is the colour of her kind. -Pink Floyd | ||
Tehuti (Roo) Senior Member Username: Roo Post Number: 756 Registered: 12-2003 |
I have tried it both ways. I did not notice any diff. I use a cheap plastic coffee filter to strain mine. I also add some fresh ginger to my brew. It realy helps with the stomach. Rue makes me want to purge! Just the smell of it! YUK! "You have to go out of your mind to use your head" | ||
I_am_me (I_am_me) Senior Member Username: I_am_me Post Number: 848 Registered: 10-2003 |
LOL Encouraging.  Would you consider cappi to be considerable less harsh? If so after I do some experiments with rue I'll get some cappi and compare. Hehe sickness just seems to be part of the experience anyhow though. As Hippie said I'll do with what I have. ;) Of course rue is only 3 grams....to substitue cappi would add 25 grams or so...so would that equate to more drinking fluid or can you just reduce it down to what you can manage to swallow? (Message edited by I_am_me on February 23, 2004) Green is the colour of her kind. -Pink Floyd |
