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Bubblegum Salvia (Bubblegumsalvia)
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Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 01:34 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you don't know the answer to that i'll help show you.

I will be flowering 4 females and one male, 3 are females 1 looks fem and 1 looks male. I'm an outdoor grower so i am going to grow the male with them untill he /they are about to pop and pollinate the the females for seeds. And hopefully can share them here when im done.

i switched them from 24/0 to 18/6 for the last week to get them to show sex, i was planning on tossing them. In a few days i'll switch them to 12/12.
If you don't know the plants look skinny cause i stripped them for clones There are still have enuf bud sites for a few oz's if all goes well.
here are a few pics till i move the nights and take closer ones
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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 12:39 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

awesome! can't wait to see some bud pics
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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so, is this the new thread ?
can i go ahead and archive that one on clones ?

archive material

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Bubblegum Salvia (Bubblegumsalvia)
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Yep that part is all done
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Roc (Rochester)
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I luv a good lesson!


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Bubblegum Salvia (Bubblegumsalvia)
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Time for a update. So come take a looky inside.
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It's been 7 days since i switched to flowering, 12/15 on the lights.
The Early Mistys are flowering fast it sould be great outside.
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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 01:18 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

good lookin pics bubblegum. thanks for the update!
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Roc (Rochester)
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And the lesson continues... thanx for the update.


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Bubblegum Salvia (Bubblegumsalvia)
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Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 12:27 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

14 Days
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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 04:53 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You CANNOT grow under fluoros!

he he

Here's what 380 watts of T8 fluoros can do
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Bubblegum Salvia (Bubblegumsalvia)
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It's impossible, you have to spend a few hundred on a HPS

15 Days Flowering under 320 Watts
There are no special ferts or anything during this grow, just regular GH Hydro Nutes.
My shitty cam has no zoom so i used a Mgfy Glass
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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 01:35 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

very very nice. thx for the update
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Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 02:27 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol
i've been preaching fluoro growing for years here,
nice to have such great photo proof at our disposal now to bolster the case.
good work.
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Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 05:39 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it has its merits, thats for sure.
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Bubblegum Salvia (Bubblegumsalvia)
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Thanks
Sure does, and i think they are better than HPS
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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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and i think they are better than HPS

i'd have to do some side by side comparisons before i could vouch for that. hmmmm, off to the labratory
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Bubblegum Salvia (Bubblegumsalvia)
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I haven't done a side by side, but i have used a 400w in this same closet and it doesn't give good coverage of the sides. So i would neeed 2 of them or 2 250's. Which is alot more than what i paid for these.
And when i am running any kind of HPS in this closet i would need to buy ventilation so my plants wouldn't burn.
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I used to use a 400HPS with with 320 total watts of fluorescent around the sides (four 4' twin bulb shop lights). Worked great. I always used fluorescent for all my vegetative growing, but I never let clones get more than a foot tall or so before flowering so light penetration wasn't an issue. How many watts per sq ft are you using?

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Bubblegum Salvia (Bubblegumsalvia)
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Hmm thats a hard one, most people just L(4') x W(2') then Wattage(320) / SF to get it, so that would be 40's.
I would have more wpsf doing it that way with a 400, but it doesn't cover the whole garden, and i would have to have it a few feet higher than my fluoros.
We know light loses intensity the farther away from the plant it is, and a 400 would lose 1/2-3/4 of the intensity my flos are giving.
So i don't know how to give a more accurate reading of wpsq.
Anyone?
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quote:

i think they are better than HPS



'better' is such a
subjective
word.
means different things to different people.
if you're on a low budget,
just get started as a pot overlord,
then fluoros are a great way to get in.
or if you're small time,
growing just for your household.

but i've used both fluoros & HIDS
many years, and many of each,
and my thinking
is both have a place in the garden.
fluoros for clones and moms
and vegging
but HIDS
when it comes time to flower.
HIDS will support more rapid growth
than fluoros.

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Bubblegum Salvia (Bubblegumsalvia)
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Posted on Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 02:14 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Better for me
It's really based on what you like.
Flo growers can spend less money, and grow as much weight per plant using the same wattage as any HPS, if not more :-).
Pot overlords use them too, most just don't show them to the general public when they are active users and traders, if that is your goal i think flos are better for that also.
The only thing i haven't used them for yet is growing plants over 4 feet, no trees :-(
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quote:

Flo growers can spend less money, and grow as much weight per plant using the same wattage as any HPS,



true,
but not as quickly.
but let's not get into a long argument,
i know what i've seen,
you know what you've seen,
we'll let everyone decide for themselves.

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Bubblegum Salvia (Bubblegumsalvia)
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Nice pics bubblegum.........
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Roc (Rochester)
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Nice work!


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Roc (Rochester)
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As a favor to Bubblegum and support of Hippie3 in regards to a fluro growing the next post is the final results from Bubblegum... If you would post the endin for me sayin that it harvested just under 3oz
dried.

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Roc (Rochester)
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Upload

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Bubblegum results from fluro grow...


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logic pill (Logicpill)
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Looks very nice indeed. By the way, did you make that box yourself? It looks really nice. :-)
All of this is in theory, of course.
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Hey BubbleGum,

Very beautiful pictures of very beautiful plants.

btw is that a picture of you?
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bubblegum has been banned from here a while ago...

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for selling MJ clones here,
a violation of board policy
and common sense.

Namaste


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indeed