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grimble g grumble (Grimblegrumble)
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I have some questions about different Ayahuaska admixtures and recipes.
Ok
First, on the subject of the vine
In my searches online I have run across
several different varieties of caapi:
cielo, red, white, even black
Have any of you had experience with these?
Is there a difference in potency?
Any other differences?
I believe that cielo is the most common,
but I may be wrong.
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??????????
There are varieties of Caapi and they have each character indeed. If you talk bout "Potency", you need also talk bout Chac. Fresh old vine's always best. Even Hawaiians very good too.
surf, ayahuasca.com. & thier forum, they have enough data for yr questionz, & also tchek Archives of this Mycotopia

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Ok
Second question:
While reading Terence Mckenna's Archaic revival
in the chapter titled Among Ayahuasqueros
He makes reference to Ayahuaska honey that was
prepared for him by Don Fidel of which only two
tablespoons was sufficient for visions.
Would this be just a concentrated regular brew or a different recipe altogether. Have any of you heard of Ayahuaska honey anywhere else?
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I dunno what you realy want to know...
Possiblly you can see the "Vision" with 2 table spoonful ayahuasca. Concentration doesn't make big sense in these substance. why U asking this ?
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Heh I'm guessing because two spoons of ayahuasca honey would be easier to take than a cup full of the brew.
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Mostly, I am quite curious
I've only made a couple of brews in my life
In the book Mckeena refers to "esencia"
the syrup that precipitates to the bottom of
a well made brew.
I have not seen such a thing in the brew that I
have made.

I think it would be nice to be able to brew up a big batch
of Ayahuska honey and have it around.
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Caapi is ayahuasca. When you add something to it, ususaly something that contains DMT it becomes Ayahuasca. Most of the caapi you will ever find is cielo.

Admixtures can include Toe, Tobacco, spit, shrooms etc. Caapi is the female part of the brew, the male part is the DMT containing plant or root. Anything else you add to this "base" is the admixture. Ayahuasca is the base of the brew and the admixtures add something else to it no matter how subtle. If you smoke tobacco during the experiance you had used an admixture, the same goes with Ganga.
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Mostly, I am quite curious
I've only made a couple of brews in my life
In the book Mckeena refers to "esencia"
the syrup that precipitates to the bottom of
a well made brew.
I have not seen such a thing in the brew that I
have made.

I think it would be nice to be able to brew up a big batch
of Ayahuska honey and have it around.


They do not gind the plants like we do here. They are used fresh and whole. The Caapi is usualy just beaten or smashed. I would suspect this is the reason why neither you nor I have seen this.

They use the honey as a preservative. If the brew is very strong and one spoonfull will get you there so will one spoonfull of the honey mixture. It is best to learn how to boil it down as far as you can get it without burning it. Get it down to less than 100 ml per dose and shoot it like you would a shot.
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Yes, of course it would be different using
fresh whole plant. I should have thought of that.
Like I said, I was very curious after reading about it, why it sounded so different from I had actually experienced in the kitchen.

Roo have you ever used any vine other than cielo?
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Cielo is expensive enough! I am reading Archaic revival again. I am more than half way through it. The last time I read it I realy had no experiance with DMT except for a single experiance with Ayahuasca. The book actualy makes more sence to me. Its a great book..
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Yes it certainly is a good book!

Natura was right!
I did alot of reading at ayahuaska.com on the different varieties of vine. Probably best to stick to cielo. Someday perhaps I may have to try the others. This is a link on it:
http://www.biopark.org/peru/huascaspecies.html

Ok so I have yet to use mimosa at all. I'm sure there is a difference in the quality of the experience from chacruna and chaliponga, yes?

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I like chacruna and chaliponga better... much nicer to drink and less hard on the body. Mimosa is cheaper, but I think its better do use if you cannot afford the good stuff, or you want to extract DMT. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
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quote:

Caapi is ayahuasca. When you add something to it, ususaly something that contains DMT it becomes Ayahuasca.



caapi is yage

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yage is ayahuasca
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This thread is going in circles heh
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no, i don't think so, roo.
caapi is yage, the vine of the dead.
ayahuasca is a mixture containing caapi and possibly several other plants. [traditionally].

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I have seen it both ways... I will try to find some refs when I am less stoned... I have seen all these terms used to describe the samething and sometimes differant things. Very confusing to me.

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This is good!
from my understanding
caapi is yage
a component of Ayahuaska
which is a mixture of many possible
types of different mixtures of different plants

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Hrmmm I had read about ayahuasca made with mimosa and it was refered to as yage....heh.
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ACERO HUASCA (BLANCO)
Paullinia bidentata?
Sapindaceae

ACERO HUASCA (NEGRO)
Paullinia sp.
Sapindaceae

AIRE SACHA
Kalanchoe pinnata
Crassulaceae
Fever, Headache, Sedative, "Bad air"

AJO SACHA (MACHO)
Pseudocalymma
Alliaceum
Mansoa stendleyi
Bignoniaceae
Plant teacher, Anti-rheumatic, Arthritis, Analgesic
For hunting (sensibility and awareness), Self confidence, security, Energetic Cleansing and protection.

ALBAHACA
Ocimum basilicum
Lamiaceae
Antispasmodic, Digestive, Calming bath, Carminative

ASNA PANGA
Solanum dulcamara
Solanaceae

AYAHUASCA
Banisteriopsis caapi
Malpighiaceae
Plant Teacher, Purgative
Transpersonal access, To see

AZUCENA
Lilium japonicum
Liliaceae
Emetic

BOBINZANA
Calliandra angustifolia
Leguminoseae (Mimosaceae)
Plant teacher, Antirheumatic, Colds, Postnatal tonic, Blood purifier
To be centered in the spiritual level.
For confused person
It grounds you although its spiritual characteristic

BOLSA MULLACA
Physalis angulata
Solanaceae
Diabetes, Hepatitis, Diuretic, Asthma, High cholesterol

CAME
Peperomia obtusifolia
piperaceae
Hernia, Sprains

CASTAÑA
Terminalia catappa
Combretaceae
Rheumatism, Cholesterol, Burns, Dentistry, Edible nut

CHACRUNA
Psychotria viridis
Rubiaceae
Plant Teacher

Colours visions
Ayahuasca additive to have visions.

CHAMICO
Datura stramonium
Solanaceae
Nausea

CHANCA PIEDRA
Phyllantus niruri, P. Urinaria
Euphorbiaceae
Kidney and gall stones, Antispasmodi, Diuretic, Urinary infections, Hepatitis

CHIRIC SANANGO
Brumfelsia grandiflora
Solanaceae
Plant Teacher, Antirheumatic, Arthritis, Restorative, Cold out
Luck at home.
It take the cold hard out.
Connection with inner self. Make you sensible and reflexive

CLAVO HUASCA
Tynnanthus panurensis
Bignoniaceae

COCA
Erythroxylum coca
erythroxylaceae
Analgesic, Stimulant, Cholic, Digestive, Throat gargle
Opens you at a mental level

COMPHREY
Symphytum officinale
boraginaceae
Heals wounds and breaks, Tonic, Malnutrition, Infections

CORDONCILLO BLANCO (MATICO)
Piper hispidum
Piperaceae
Emolient, For the stomach, Ulcers/wounds, Antiinflamatorio (for external use), Vaginalinfection

CORDONCILLO NEGRO (MATICO)
Piper angustifolium
piperaceae
Emolient, Expectorant, Wound healing, Indigestion

GUAYUSA
Piper callosum
piperaceae
Digestive, Diuretic, Antirheumatic, Remove laziness, For hunting

HIERBA LUISA
Cymbopogon citratus
poaceae
Carminative, sedative.

JERGON SACHA
Dracotinium loretense
araceae
Snake bite, Abcesses, Hernia

KION/ JENGIBRE
Zingiber officinale
zingiberaceae
Cough, Expectorant, Fever, Anti-inflammatory, Headache

LANCETILLA
Alternanthera lanceolata
Amarantaceae
Cough, Expectorant, Fever, Anti-inflammatory, Headache

LLANTEN
Plantago major
Plantaginaceae
Cough/bronchitis, Throat infections, Astringent, Genito-urinary inflammations

MALVA
Malachra ruderalis
Malvaceae
Burns, Skin infections, Constipation, Eye irritation, Antiinflammatory

MENTA
Mentha piperita. Lamiaceae Carminative, Analgesic, Tonic sedative
MUCURA HEMBRA
Petiveria alliacea
phytolaccaceae
Headache, Restorative, Antirheumatic, ‘bad luck, fear/memory

MUCURA MACHO
Petiveria sp.
phytolaccaceae
Relaxant,diuretic, Abortive, bad spirits, fear/memory
Teach you to heal and for protection

ORTIGA/

ISHANGA
Laportea aestuans
urticaceae
Antirheumatic, Colds/bronchitis, Urinary system

PAN DEL ARBOL
Artocarpus altilis, A. communis
Moraceae
External haemorrhages, Sprains/hernia, Dentistry

PIÑON COLORADO
Jatropha gossypifoilio
euphorbiaceae
Burns, swellings, haemorroids, laxative, intestinal parasites.

RETAMA
Cassia reticulata
fabaceae
Skin and liver, problems, diuretic, laxantive, intestinal parasites.

ROSA SISA
Tagetes erecta
compositae
Emetic, stimulant, nerves, gastritis, cholic.

RUDA
Ruta graveolents
rutaceae
Luck in business, headache, amenorrhoea, analgesic, energetic cleaning of environments.

SABILA
Aloe vera
liliaceae

SACHA CULANTRO
Eryngium foetidum
apiaceae

SANGRE DE GRADO
Croton lechleri
Euphorbiaceae
Wound healing, ulcers, vaginal antiseptic.

SANTA MARIA
Piper peltatum
Piperaceae
Conjuntivitis, diuretic, antiinflammator, For the liver.

SAUCO
Sambucus peruviana
caprifoliaceae
Diuretic, causes perspiration, laxative/wounds resp. system

SHAPILLOJA
Zanthoxylum fagara
rutaceae
Relaxing bath promotes sweating stimulant, energetic cleaning of environments.

SHIMI PAMPANA
Maranta arundinaceae
marantaceae
Urethritis/bladde, Good luck (love), Alcoholism, Digestive, Relaxing (bath)

SIUKA HUITO
Solanum kionotrichum
solanaceae
Acne, abcesses,body paint.

TABACO
Nicotiana tabacum
salanaceae
Plant teacher, regulates energy, purgativo, migraine, repellent.
For protection and it teach you how to heal. Knowledge

TOE
Brugmansia suaveolens
solaneceae
Plant teacher ulcers/absesses, Infections, tumors, Witchcraft
Cure for strong things and injuries.
See the future and learn medicine.

TROMPETERO SACHA
Clavija sp.
theophrastaceae
Muscle pains, rheumatism, Laziness

UCHO SANANGO
Bonafousia undulata
apocynaceae
Plant teacher to be visionary restorative to acquire psychic + physical strength
Confront with inner fears and dreads. Open inner obstructions and conflicts.
It grounds you (male plant)

UÑA DE GATO
Uncaria guianesis
rubiaceae

USHPAWASHA SANANGO
Plant Teacher
Open your affective memories, family, childhood. Reconnects you with emotional level.

VERBENA
Verbena littoralis
verbenaceae
Infections, Diabetes, ulcers, bronchitis, purgative.

YACU PIRI PIRI
Cyperus sphacelatus
cyperaceae
Luck in love, viper bites, good luck.

YAWAR PIRI PIRI
Eleutherine bulbosa
iridaceae
Antihaemorrhag, Dysentery, Astringent

YAWAR PANGA
Aristolochia didyma
aristolochiaceae
Emetic, laxative, purifier, regulates energies.

YERBA LUISA
Cymbopogon citratus
Poaceae
Digestive, For the chest, Dry cough, Carminative, Relaxant





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Common Names in Amazonia

yagé; bejuco bravo; bejuco de oro; caapi (Tupi, Brazil); mado, mado bidada and rami-wetsem (Culina); nucnu huasca and shimbaya huasca (Quechua); kamalampi (Piro); punga huasca; rambi and shuri (Sharanahua); ayahuasca amarillo; ayawasca; nishi and oni (Shipibo); ayahuasca; ayahuasca negro; ayahuasca blanco; ayahuasca trueno, cielo ayahuasca; népe; xono; datém; kamarampi; Pindé (Cayapa); natema (Jivaro); iona; mii; nixi; pae; ka-hee' (Makuna); mi-hi (Kubeo); kuma-basere; wai-bu-ku-kihoa-ma; wenan-duri-guda-hubea-ma; yaiya-suava-kahi-ma; wai-buhua-guda-hebea-ma; myoki-buku-guda-hubea-ma (Barasana); ka-hee-riama; mene'-kají-ma; yaiya-suána-kahi-ma; kahí-vaibucuru-rijoma; kaju'uri-kahi-ma; mene'-kají-ma; kahí-somoma' (Tukano); tsiputsueni, tsipu-wetseni; tsipu-makuni; rami-wetsem (Kulina); amarrón huasca, inde huasca (Ingano); oó-fa; yajé (Kofan); bi'-ã-yahé; sia-sewi-yahe; sese-yahé; weki-yajé; yai-yajé; nea-yajé; horo-yajé; sise-yajé (Shushufindi Siona); shimbaya huasca (Ketchwa); shillinto (Peru); nepi (Colorado); wai-yajé; yajé-oco; beji-yajé; so'-om-wa-wai-yajé; kwi-ku-yajé; aso-yajé; wati-yajé; kido-yajé; weko-yajé; weki-yajé; usebo-yajé; yai-yajé; ga-tokama-yai-yajé; zi-simi-yajé; hamo-weko-yajé (Siona of the Putomayo); shuri-fisopa; shuri-oshinipa; shuri-oshpa (Sharananahua).*

At least 42 indigenous names for this preparation are known. It is remarkable and significant that at least 72 different indigenous tribes of Amazonia, however widely separated by distance, language, and cultural differences, all manifested a detailed common knowledge of ayahuasca and its use.*
Both the plant and the medicine prepared from it are called 'ayahuasca' in most of the Peruvian Amazon. In this cyber treatise we distinguish the ayahuasca vine (Banisteriopsis caapi) from the medicinal brew (ayahuasca combined with a companion plant such as chacruna) by capitalizing the name of the prepared medicine, i.e. Ayahuasca.

*from Schultes and Raffauf, The Healing Forest.


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ayahuasca cielo or ayahuasca amarilla
~ heaven (sky) ayahuasca or yellow ayahuasca ~
This is the type of ayahuasca most commonly used in contemporary mestizo curanderismo in Amazonian Perú where it is widely cultivated. It is a relatively gentle but powerful healing plant capable of vivid and highly transformative visions. Cielo Ayahuasca is considered to be the best type of ayahuasca for initiation.
ayahuasca trueno or ayahuasca negra
~ thunder ayahuasca or black ayahuasca ~
This type of ayahuasca provokes especially strong purge and physical shaking which can be overwhelming. Ayahuasca trueno should be taken only by those experienced with the medicine.

ayahuasca india or ayahuasca negra
~ Indian ayahuasca or black ayahuasca ~
This type of ayahuasca is harvested exclusively from the 'monte'(old-growth unflooded white sand rainforest. It is not cultivated. It is a powerful variety widely used by pre-columbian indigenous people.

ayahuasca blanca - white ayahuasca
This type of ayahuasca is used primarily in magic, both white (benevolent) and red ( = black or harmful)

ayahuasca colorada - red ayahuasca
This is a very strong shamanic medicine taken almost exclusively by shamans themselves to facilitate healing of others.

The use of colors to describe these types of ayahuasca may be based on the nature and character
of the visionary experiences as well as the physical color of the plant.


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Uuum, dunno u ll understand this, but "caapi" = Harmaline(harmine) is "Ayahausca" preciselly.
I mean this is definite difference between Drinkin brew and Smoking raisin. "High" from harmaline is kinda "unique" nd "suprime" experience. Red, Cielo etc etc, there are many regional referencez exist indeed, but Pure Mature Caapi is nothing to compare with others,,, this is real Nature who can show & give the power.

hope this helps.

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I thought that syrian rue was harmaline and harmine and that cappi was a different maoi?
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Have any of you ever received caapi with mold on it? Is it common? I'm sure in the jungle mold abounds. I ask because I just received an order and some of the caapi has mold or something. This is only the second order i have ever made of caapi. Also my first had a little bit, but I still used it to fine effect.
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not me,
it's always been bone dry.
wonder if maybe yours got wet
in transit ?
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quote:

"caapi" = Harmaline(harmine) is "Ayahausca"




quote:



1.1 Ayahuasca: a Definition

This brew, also called yage, or yaje, in Colombia, ayahuasca in Ecuador and Peru (Inca "vine of the dead, vine of the souls," aya means in Quechua "spirit," "ancestor," "dead person," while huasca means "vine," "rope") caapi in Brazil, is prepared from segments of the vine Banisteriopsis Caapi. Sections of vine are boiled with leaves from any of a large number of potential admixture plants (such as but not limited to; Psychotria viridis or Diplopterys cabrerana) resulting in a brew that contains the powerful hallucinogenic alkaloids harmaline, harmine, d-tetrahydroharmine, and often N,N-dimethyltryptamine. This medicine has been used for millennia in order to enter the sacred supernatural world, to heal, divine, and worship




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so if i'm interpreting that right,
ayahuasca is the BREW of the vine,
not just the vine.
a technicality,
but then
we were being technical, weren't we ?
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Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 02:09 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

great material, roo
and i know i just repeated your posts
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 02:11 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

In this cyber treatise we distinguish the ayahuasca vine (Banisteriopsis caapi) from the medicinal brew (ayahuasca combined with a companion plant such as chacruna) by capitalizing the name of the prepared medicine, i.e. Ayahuasca.



i wonder if this convention
is universal.
i'd always just distinguished by calling the vine caapi or yage but not ayahuasca.
seems common useage is shifting a bit.
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TehutiRoo (Tehuti)
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Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 05:52 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All I care about is that it is being used. Its use is spreading around the world. People are not afraid of it and the white man is finding its benefits.

Ayahuasca is becomming a multi national, cross lingual, cultural, cross religious thing. I am watching this very closly.

I had a VERY interesting experiance with an unusual admixture recently. I will not post it in this thread but I may create another. It is so interesting I have limited my Ayahuasca usage to 4 times a year now.
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Natura (Natura)
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Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 08:11 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

caapi" = Harmaline(harmine) is "Ayahausca"

I am meanin just "important/essencial element of Ayahuasca Brew.
Obiously we ve know what the ayahuasca IS aha ?
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