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Zauberpilz (Zauberpilz)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 09:13 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just a short question: Does anyone know what vermiculite is called in German? I've seen it called "Vermikulit" and "Vermiculite", but all the garden centres I've been to have never heard of either name. I know it exists here, but I think I'm just calling it by the wrong name. Any Germans out there know? Thanks.
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Highflyer (Highflyer)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 09:53 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

German PF Tek

Its "Vermikulit."
"I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way." - Robert Frost
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Zauberpilz (Zauberpilz)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 10:13 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks. I'll try to pronounce it properly when talking to Garden centre staff (though the one's I've met are not the brightest bulbs in the box usually). I'm having a hell of a time finding it here, and shipping it from the Netherlands is cost prohibitive. Bleh.
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Imok Urok2 (Imok)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 10:40 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vermiculit is what googles language translator says
vermiculite is in German.

In a post in alt.drugs.mushrooms Lucy In The Sky talks
about verm and a source of verm in Germany:
Well in Germany, as in Austria, it isn't that easy
to get vermiculite. I can buy tons of rye (it's quiet cheap,
cheaper than brown rice and easier to get), no problem,
but I still search verm. It is maybe hard to get verm
here because they believe that the fine dust produces lung
cancer. I'll say it again: they SUSPECT it to be cancerous,
they DON'T know it for sure, so I don't want to start a
big controversy here on the newsgroup.
I have done some research on the verm. but I had no
big results. A friend of mine studies biology and found
out that the gardener of the botanical garden uses verm
for the plants. So she spend a visit to the gardener
and asked if she could buy a larger quantity from the
University. He said no, because the Uni. has problems
with the money at end of the year (Abrechnen).
But he was kind enough to give her about 1liter for free.
So if you have a University near you, you can also
go to the gardener and maybe he gives you a small amount
for free. Better not much than not at all. The gardener
was also very kind to give us the tel. Number of the company
where they get it. The only problem is handling and shipping,
that's why I have not called, but maybe it isn't that cost
intensive. I've heard that 100 l cost 13 EUR (25 DM, 11 USD),
but the mail is maybe expensive (100 l is a lot of volume).
I'll give you the tel. number, and maybe for some interested germans:

Dämmstofffabrik Klein
06355/ 497
This is in Germany, so you have to use the correct
foreign code in Austria. I think the fist cero has to
be left away when you call from outside Germany.

And about the term vermiculite:
I should also say that vermiculit is also known as Blähglimmer
in german, actually both are used. This company sells
also smaller amount, also you don't have to buy 1 cubic meter
or more, and have 2 kinds of verm. the course ground
(1 cm diameter) and the finer (2 mm diameter) one.
I think the finer one is better for our purposes. I have
also found in the MMGG- German information on verm. selling:

Isola Werke Wilhelm Zimmermann GmbH
Poststraße 34
45549 Sprockhövel
Tel.: 02339/7041-43

And about a German substute for verm:
Also in Germany, and the same thing about the cero.
And as a last resort, if you cant get verm, you can use
as a casing this mixture for sowing (Saaterde) you can
get at every gardening shop. I believe it is a mixture of
peat moss (Torf), fine sand, etc. The important thing is
that this mixture is very loose, used for sowing plants,
has not to much nutrients. The micelle can grow very good
into this mixture. It maybe isn't that good as verm.
but it works, I have right now 4 jars pinning like hell,
maybe about 30 pins on a 70 qcm area.
Hope this helps :-)
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Imok Urok2 (Imok)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 10:45 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Archive Material: German PF Tek link to archive front page
http://www.fungifun.com/pf/pf_de.htm
Hope this helps :-)
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saimon (Saimons_k)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 01:23 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yea. getting verm in some European countries is a problem
sorry for my english, i`m foreigner
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Imok Urok2 (Imok)
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Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 02:33 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You speak English better than I would speak your native tongue
All are welcome at Mycotopia, and if you can help others
than that is all that much better for everyone
Hope this helps :-)
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saimon (Saimons_k)
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Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 10:01 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yea, just.. a was a foreign exchange student in US for a year. It`s been couple years and i feel i can`t speak eng as well as i could.
mycotopia surprised me with it`s positivity
sorry for my english, i`m foreigner
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myco domesticus (Mycophil)
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Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 04:14 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

try also the building materials ,in europe verm is used in floorheating and comes in bags of 80 liters usually
good luck :-)
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
Albert Einstein
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Anno (Anno)
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Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2004 - 04:25 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Zauberpilz, do you know www.zauberpilz.com/forum/ ?
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Zauberpilz (Zauberpilz)
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Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 08:29 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the help guys. I'm going to try some of the suggestions, and perhaps some bigger cities if they fall through. Also going to look at the German forum, thanks for the link, Anno. I'll keep an update and perhaps some addresses/contact info if I find any stores or chains that readily supply vermiculite.
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Imok Urok2 (Imok)
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Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 09:30 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great, we could use a German perspective.
Scotsman wrote up a great UK version
Hope this helps :-)