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? (Superunborn)
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Username: Superunborn

Post Number: 202
Registered: 04-2004
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 03:17 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I made my brew a few days ago, with 5 grams of harmala seeds and 25 grams of chacruna. I soaked overnight in water and lemon juice and then boiled it slowly for several hours.

Since brewing, I've tried to prepare myself mentally. I told myself repeatedly to remember to give in to whatever the experience brought, and asked for guidance and knowledge.

After cleaning and setting up some candles and incense, I downed the harmala extract (which tasted truly awful) and took a hot bath. Half an hour later, feeling just a bit strange, I got out and drank the chacruna extract. This didn't taste so bad.

I sat on my bed and meditated for a bit, then lay down. Soon, I felt the effects rising in my body, like a charge was building. I was impatient, though, waiting on the spectacular ego-shattering fireworks I've read so much about. I think this was my mistake. The respect and quiet just wasn't there. Also, my sitter was in the other room watching TV, which distracted me.

Then there was the absence of a real purge. I didn't throw up, and so remained nauseous throughout the experience. Should I have forced it? At the time, I wasn't sure, so I didn't. The sickness was another distraction though, and I was disappointed in not having broken through to the other side.

Don't get me wrong--I was good and fucked up. And up till recently that's all I've ever wanted. But there was an aspect missing. I want to learn, and although I feel better for having the experience, I think I could have tried harder and come out with more.

Also, because of the absence of the purge, I suspect my brew wasn't as potent as I was shooting for.

Ah well, there is always next time. Don't think I came away empty-handed, though. Disappointment colored my experience, but I know now that it's stupid to feel let down. This is the first time I actually made an attempt to prepare my mind and my surroundings for a trip, and it felt right. From now on I'll always make sure my bags are well packed. This is only the beginning.

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Redmonk (Redmonk)
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Post Number: 565
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 10:21 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't give up Superunborn....you sound as though you're ready for the vine and are on the right track . Set and setting are very important and it sounds like you respect the power of Ayahuasca . You might want to try substituting B. Caapi in place of the harmala seeds . Also try , if you're comfortable with it , upping the chacruna to maybe 30 grams (or slightly more) .
Anyhow , if you are really hungry for the full-on visionary experience....keep at it . Sometimes Ayahuasca doesn't open her gates so readily....to keep out the mildly curious .
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The Gnome (Grimblegrumble)
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Post Number: 400
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 10:42 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, go for the vine, and more chacruna.
Also perhaps you may want to consider the phosphoric acid extraction tek, it worked great for me. I failed my first time to break through...Don't give up!
So it goes...
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Tehuti (Roo)
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Username: Roo

Post Number: 191
Registered: 06-2004
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 11:37 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Caapi is always better.. Much less body load.

A good starting dose would be 40g Caapi and 35 or 40 g chacruna. You should make a double dose. Do the first dose and then just as you start to come down from that do the second. Total experiance should last from 6 to 8 hours.. Its also a good idea not to have any plans or work the next day.

From my own studies I have found the traditional dose to contain anywhere from 80 to 100 g caapi and 100 - 150 g chacruna. My last experiance was 100 g caapi and 100 g chacruna. Believe it or not I have had much more intense experiances with 50g of each than that. I think it depends more on your state of mind and what you want out of the experiance. When the visions come to you they will be like nothing you have ever experianced before. I would also tell you that if you smoke ganja, you should abstain for at least 8 hours before drinking the brew. It tends to lesson the effects at least from my experiance. It also seems to make the brew take a long time to take effect. This may be just my body...
They're trained to believe, not to know. Belief can be manipulated. Only knowledge is dangerous.

-Frank Herbert, Dune Messiah
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? (Superunborn)
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Username: Superunborn

Post Number: 209
Registered: 04-2004
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 04:20 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks guys