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Scott (Manwich)
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 04:56 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A friend asked me to post this here for him... so here goes...
"EDIT: This drawer is anomalous, in that there is about 8 inches of room behind it, which makes this setup possible, in case anybody was wondering.

This will be a thread with two distinct objectives... one to show all of you mycotopians my "super stealthy" grow setup and the other will be to document the progress of 10 pf style jars growing invitro. Five of them using visions elixer and the other five h20.

So, to start, here is a picture of my grow setup from the outside.
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You pull out the drawer and....
there are many random items, most having to do with snowboarding (tuning vices, gloves, irons, ect.)
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You then can pull the drawer out even further, and behind the drawer is a cardboard cutout of the drawer size. The purpose of which is to not allow any light to escape from behind and leak out the cracks on the side of the drawer.
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Then the cardboard cutout is taken out...
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Then you look in the back of the drawer, where my grow setup is located, there is about a foot of empty space to the right of this pic where i keep my syringes and other misc. stuff.
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And that's about it folks. A super stealthy grow setup

(Message edited by manwich on August 14, 2004)

(Message edited by manwich on August 14, 2004)
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Scott (Manwich)
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Post Number: 64
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Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 05:02 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Sorry Visions it took so long to start this... things were a bit hectic. Like me breaking my knee mountain biking and being high on oxycodone for the past two weeks.

Now, onto the test of the elixer. I'm starting on friday the 13th, so i dont know if that is good or not... you can decide.

8/13. innoc. 10 regular pf style jars 5 with the elixer and 5 without.
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I will update again upon germination.

PS Does anyone know of a good material i could tape around that wood (not cardboard, that was a typo) cutout that would sort of seal it in when i placed it in there? right now there is construction paper taped around the sides but it doesn't work very well. Any suggestions would be awesome. Thanks."
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pscillypj (Pcsillypj)
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Post Number: 191
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 06:07 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


nice job with the steathness.
hope it works out for you.
high on oxycodone huh, that shit makes you
more lazy then pot does....hehehe.

peace,
pcsillypj
"I hear colors and see sounds"
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Scotsman (Barrowland)
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Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 07:14 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

very well done and well hidden
We're Bought and Sold
For English Gold.
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Taoist Shredder (Taoistshredder)
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Post Number: 1298
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 12:18 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If one were so inclined, once could measure the space provided and acquire a piece of thin plywood that is the same size or perhaps just slightly smaller. One would then take two hinges and attach them to the wood and dresser; like a doggy door only for mushrooms.

If you use regular hinges, however, if will only open one way, so one would need to either account for this in the set-up or just put a handle on it. This is looking like a $5 Home Depot project.

(Message edited by taoistshredder on August 14, 2004)
OK, OK, OK....now...I'm no biologist...but how many cells do "single-celled" organisms have?
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 09:27 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

very nice
archive material to stealth

Namaste


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Scott (Manwich)
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 10:25 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"i may try that taoist shredder... i already have the plywood in there the size of the drawer. i would just need to fix some hinges, which may prove difficult if i cant fit an electric screwdriver in there, plus the screws may go up into the drawer above if i'm not carefull. maybe some type of epoxy would be strong enough to hold the hinges?

then i could just glue/tie some string to it to use as a handle.

i still need to figure out a way to keep the light from leaking out, i cut that wood the best i could to fit the dimensions of the drawer but light still leaks some.
(although the only way you can see it is if the lights are off and you are down on the floor looking at the cracks of the drawer.)

so if anyone has any suggestions to make more of a seal so that light wont leak out that would be awesome. thanks"
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mindless vesscular (Mindless)
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 11:26 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

try black felt. it's pretty damn good at keeping in/out light, if i remember right, it's often what's used in darkrooms to seal off light.

also, as i was thinking about this setup, i was thinking some magnetic holders would be neat to let the panel be held in place w/o being obvious from the outside. like the ones for stereo cabinet doors, where if you push on them they bounce back and release. you could epoxy them down or something, and put the metal strips on the inside of the panel.
hell, that's such a good idea maybe i'll try it myself.

ponders if any of my drawers have empty space behind them...


(Message edited by mindless on August 14, 2004)
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Scott (Manwich)
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Post Number: 67
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Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 11:54 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"black felt may just work. how do you suggest i put it around the edge of the board? just tape it to the board?
or should i tape black felt inside the drawer all around where the board touches it? it sounds like inside the drawer would work better to seal in the light but i dont know. any other suggestioins?"

i think if i use hinges they will be on the bottom so the wood just folds down and doesn't need to be held up by anything.

any other suggestions would be great

and mindless, you could always bust out the saw and physically shorten one of your drawers. i dont know why my drawers are like this, i've been using them to store booze and drugs behind for a long time. just recently decided to grow mushies in there."

(Message edited by manwich on August 14, 2004)
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perpetually LOST (Lost_onabbey_rd)
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Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 06:22 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you could cut 1/4 by 1/4 inch strips of plywood to outline inside of the draw, then glue them top bottom and bout sides. making an all around lip to slide the board up against. and then cover these in black felt. then just slide that board in place, these black 1/4in lips should keep light from leaking, as far as removal i think i would just put 2 scres in the top corners and use those as handles, the bear screws will look less obtrusive and out of place and they should give you a good sturdy handle. that's a cool ass setup, wish my dressers had that a cool stach place. good luck keeping that light in.
LOST

(Message edited by Lost_onabbey_rd on August 15, 2004)
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Scott (Manwich)
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Post Number: 70
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 01:11 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"well shit... green mold at every innoculation spot. i assume it was a contaminated syringe, as i both flame sterilized and wiped down the syringe with rubbing alcohol.. sorry visions, there wont be any results from me..

does anyone have any reccommendations for me so that this never happens to me again... would i beable to tell if it is a contaminated syringe by doing a liquid culture innoc.?

this really peeves me. it happened once before and i wrote the vender and they sent me a knew one, the one i used for this. im guessing both syringes came from the same print, which was contaminated. plus, it is now illegal to have spores in my state...

so anyway.. any suggetions for my dellema would be great. thanks"
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ShedTheMonkey (Shedthemonkey)
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Post Number: 330
Registered: 06-2004
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 01:26 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott? Did this strain happen to be EQ? The only trich I have found is from the latest EQ syringe from one of the vendors. Wasnt the substrate because it was 5 of 5 jars innoced with that syringe and 19 jars of other strains that are getting real nice growth. Evidence points to that one syringe.

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ShedTheMonkey

"The acceptance of indeterminancy is the beginning of wisdom," -- from Mindswap by Robert Sheckley
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Scott (Manwich)
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Post Number: 71
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 01:28 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"if i were to, perhaps, bleach dunk all the jars to get rid of the green mold, then place bits of myc from a fully colonized cake i have would i be able to grow from that?

or do you think my only hope is waiting until the two jars i have grow. (grow them chronic style) then take spore prints and grow from that?)

i feel like all the hours of my life i spent making those cakes to perfection, not to mention being excited about what visions elixer might bring about, has just been sucked out of me. it blows."
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Scott (Manwich)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 01:29 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

actually, shed, its about a month old syringe and was GT
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Philanthropist (Philanthropist)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 01:36 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You could put a little incubator in there to speed up colonization (i donno the temps there).

Tinfoil might be useful to hide the light. You don't need any light while they are colonizing and when they are done you could do a casing back there too...

Very deceptive.
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Python (Python)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 02:12 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

nice work.........
The substance provides continuous high, i'll give you one free, for every five you buy......
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 02:47 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

would i beable to tell if it is a contaminated syringe by doing a liquid culture innoc.?



not with any real certainty
better by far
to test on solid media, i.e. agar or spare brf jar

Namaste


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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 02:48 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

plus, it is now illegal to have spores in my state...

so anyway.. any suggetions for my dellema would be great. thanks"



order next spores from www.sporelab.com
they ship anywhere

Namaste


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Hippie3 (Admin)
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quote:

"if i were to, perhaps, bleach dunk all the jars to get rid of the green mold, then place bits of myc from a fully colonized cake i have would i be able to grow from that?




you won't be able to completely kill the mold
even with bleach
once it's well established
better to get a tissue sample from a clean jar

Namaste


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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 02:51 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

waiting until the two jars i have grow. (grow them chronic style) then take spore prints and grow from that?)



you can go both ways,
take a tissue sample for liquid cultures now
and let the cakes fruit for prints down the line

Namaste


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Scott (Manwich)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 07:57 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks hippie for your help...

can i take a tissue sample from a pin? or should i wait for the mushroom to mature?
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 01:05 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

can i take a tissue sample from a pin?



yes,
tear it open [in a glovebox/sterile environment]
then remove a match-head size chunk of tissue from inside for use

Namaste


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Shroomzhilla (Shroomzhilla)
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Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 09:24 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

just a new thought for stealth I got from looking at that dresser. a "stand" on which a good sized aquarium might be put upon. if the aquarium is thre feet off the ground on a "pedestal" the size of the tank may vary but the volume of space with lots of bubblers/heaters and lotsa shit attatched would really camo a small but EFFECTIVE area that would otherwise be overlooked!
I hear chicks also dig watching predator fish eat feed goldfish! wow whatta many level cool idea!
bet there are some out there feeding their fish and saying"way ahead of you dude".

I dig chicks that drag their knuckles
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cloudtop (Cloudtop)
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Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 11:41 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you wanted an idea for a door that doesn't need a handle, try attaching a decently strong magnet w/ super or hot glue to the inside of the door, then just use a piece of metal or another strong magnet (preferably) on the outside to "grab ahold" of the door.

Alternatively, you could easily steal the magnetic push clips from most videotape or sewing machine cabinets, if only you can find a place to screw the items in.

As for a way of attaching hinges from above, the fastest way I can think of is to attach a small block of wood to the top inside corner with screws coming in from the outside (shouldn't look too obvious, you could easily cover up the holes w/ a bit of epoxy if needed) and then you'll have those blocks to attach hinges to in the far corners of the flap. Just have to play w/ the placement to make sure the hinges will open properly. ;)

Go go gadget hideaway.

My next stealth project I'm hoping to detail in a couple of months will be shelved tubs hidden by a shell of cardboard boxes, possibly w/ LEDs and PC case fans for hands off cultivation. We shall see.

Invitro seems so easy to stealth, but I'm trying to figure out how to superstealth bulk grows inside apartments where maintenance people might have their suspicions easily aroused.

Keep fruitin'.
peacefromabovecloudtop
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Tobynutz (Tobynutz)
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Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 05:52 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hmm, where can i get some predator fish? anyone know?
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mycos eleusis (Exshroomer)
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Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 06:06 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is something good to use for 6 or 7 quarter-pint jars, 5-6 1/2 pints. A ring of jars at the bottom of the bucket. I'm thinking of adding another ring above it, or doing another bucket, and doubling my yields.

Which are usually somewhere between a quarter and half ounce.

I have Elixyr samples too, and once these current jars finish 4th flush, I'll start using them in the new batch.

To help control contams in jars with no tape on the lids, a coffee filter and a rubber band is a good addition to keeping the foil on them.

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