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omni (Omnibot)
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Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 01:31 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

looks to me like you're gonna have some crazy mutants. Cool!
Your mind dances in the time before you sleep
You think you grasp a lot of things but very few you keep
As these thoughts were passing through I let most of them go
But held this one for you
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freaks
they'll be good for eating but that's it


Namaste


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Raebis (Raebis)
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What exactly causes mutants? I hear various
chemicals can interact with spores, but I see no
chemicals used when looking over this grow log...


Perhaps too much h2o2 in the cool mist
humidifyer? Only a splash every time i refil it...


Will mutants suffer any because they are mutants?
I mean in potency or perhaps size?


(Message edited by raebis on November 22, 2004)
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Raebis (Raebis)
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update of that crazy mutant that i'm wondering if it is even a mushroom or not....
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The satisfaction comes
with knowing the result
is because of me.
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there are many possible causes
ranging from inheirited genetic defects
to chemical residues in the grow area
to bacterial/viral predators,
even stress.
so it's hard to pin down exactly,
but in general
mutants do not reach full size as normal specimens
but potency is unaffected

Namaste


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1dumbmyco (1dumbmyco)
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Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 05:41 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Could be from looking at it too much also. :-) How are the other cakes doing Raebis?
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Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 06:00 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


"I hear colors and see sounds"
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Raebis (Raebis)
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Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 07:28 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess what I want to know most, what can I do
to do my part in preventing mutants?


Anyway, hereu go 1dm, here is a cake with the
most growth. The open mushroom had no veil, no
spores either. Should i pluck him? (upper right)


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Raebis (Raebis)
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Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 08:18 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1dumbmyco, the ready-to-be-picked mushroom looks
lighter colored cap than the rest... the print of
sa that i recieved that made these cakes was from
an iso right? In that same iso tray you had some
lighter tan colored caps ? were the gills on
those also light colored and spore-free?

I think the 3rd or 4th flush of
http://archives.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/7747/167299.h tml?1099800502
is what the spore print came from? I can't find
the original post
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1dumbmyco (1dumbmyco)
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1dumbmyco, the ready-to-be-picked mushroom looks
lighter colored cap than the rest... the print of
sa that i recieved that made these cakes was from
an iso right?




I will have to check with foaf and see if he remembers. It is from an ISO but am not sure if it was from a case or the mycrotek jar. Either way it is the same substrain that was printed but genetics will play a role in a print. The parents genes are still present in a clone's print, where as a clone is that shroom's myc genetics only. A jar of Pcorn was nocced at the same time as the mycrotek jars from the karo water clone.
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1dumbmyco (1dumbmyco)
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Plus....the second flushes through 8, yes 8 as 2 little zoomers are popping out of the last cake left, on the Mycrotek jars did much better. The cakes seem to need 02 like crazy to get normal looking fruits. You can't over fan 'em. Plus the larger shroom on the right has another day or two before veil will break...don't panic on prints and such. Those will be great tasting oysters on pizza.
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quote:

what can I do
to do my part in preventing mutants?



not much
other that to make sure you don't expose the cakes to chemical residues like lysol

Namaste


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Raebis (Raebis)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 01:10 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

update pics

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1dumbmyco (1dumbmyco)
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Nice. It looks like quite a few will flush out nicely and the mutant will still be great with beef stew'd or scrambled eggs. Good job so far on your first success. Keep the air exchange up and those fat pins will be drawn out into nice zoomers. I will bet you a fresh print from foaf that you will get 10-11 dry grams give or take .1 grams from those 4 cakes when all is done this 1st flush. You did better than foaf did on his first SA cakes at this point.
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Raebis (Raebis)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 08:33 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Invitro jar update shot

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mycolord (Mycolord)
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what are you using for a light source raeb?

thats amazing
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nice fat pins there

Namaste


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omni (Omnibot)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 05:53 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey hmmmm myco
u thinkin too much uv?
or were you just askin?

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mycolord (Mycolord)
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just asking
i saw that a few of the shroomies and pins were going in different directions...so i figured it was either because the light was bouncing off of some reflective surface like the foil or perlite.

or they didnt have enough light, which may be a reason why they grew all willy wonkey and also may be why they didnt grow as large.

just wondering...
thats amazing
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Raebis (Raebis)
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Light might be an issue, as the only light source
in the room is a single 40 watt incandescant
fixture in the cieling. Light isn't exactly
bright, but at the same time, i don't have
anything that would reflect light (no perlite)

BTW First mushroom ever was harvested today. I
wish there was a way to preserve it forever, get
it coated in bronze, or like molten glass, put it
up on the wall.

The mutant growth actually has a sorta cap and
gills, no veil and it appears no spores either.
I crave not the result.
The satisfaction comes
with knowing the result
is because of me.
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mycolord (Mycolord)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 09:22 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

before i had any extra lights for my setups my grows were not as full and strong.

i went to target and walmart to get a few desktop reading type of lamps..the kind that clamp down and can be bent to shine light in direction...and i immediately saw better results in my grows.

the two bulb ceiling light was just not enough for them.

i think you should get a few small lights for your grows bro. couldnt hurt

thats amazing
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Dooby Dooby Doo (Doobydoobydoo)
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Don't waste electric on regular light bulbs... get a 15watter floro tiny thing :-)
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1dumbmyco (1dumbmyco)
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Foaf uses ambient room light and indirect sun from West facing windows during the day, closing the blinds as the sun starts to peak in his house. I have seen his twist and turn toward the natural light after starting off in odd directions. I keep reading the blue spectrum seems to have a beneficial effect, if I am not mistaken, which is plentiful in indirect light from the sun. During summer months all cultures were given just a few mintues of direct sun when possible as a hedge against trich. Read that here too. Too much direct sun is too hot for the myc body I have also read.
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Raebis (Raebis)
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wow thats a lot of good info about lighting. I
didn't realize it had so much of an effect on the
lil guys. I was under the asumption that light is
just required for pinning and to let the mushies
now that its time to grow.

Anyway here is an update pic of the mutant, a cap
had developed without a viel (that i saw) and now
i wonder when is the correct time to pluck this
fellow and his mutant body
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remember that popcorn i cased with vermie? Here
it is, showing about 5 pins (1 not in this
picture) I have been fanning this box regularly,
is it required to water the substrate at all ?

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Raebis (Raebis)
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Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 10:23 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

First flush from the cakes yeilded 19 grams dry.
Sorry for the lack of pictures, battery crisis.
Thanksgiving night, myself and the 7 close
friends that i have gave thanks the proper way
and had mushrooms in our stuffing. Delicious!

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The satisfaction comes
with knowing the result
is because of me.
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Raebis (Raebis)
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Also, the fat mushie in the casing (the one next
to the lighter) was picked today and a section of
its inner stem was dropped into karowater.
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The satisfaction comes
with knowing the result
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1dumbmyco (1dumbmyco)
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quote:

First flush from the cakes yeilded 19 grams dry.



19 cracker dry from 4 cakes or just fan dried a day before you got hungry? Awesome!
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yfrefje (Booger)
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Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 11:05 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

either way 19 grams is a pretty good score
great pics man
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Raebis (Raebis)
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most were cracka dry, but the ones i had picked
only on wednesday night were not all the way
cracker dry, so i guess i can't really tell
exactly how much we ate...

everybody had a good time, i didn't really ever
feel the effects at all... i think i just need to
eat more in the future.

In any case, I am very very exicted that I
succesfully grew for the first time!!

BTW My first grow attempt was of B+ from
SporeWorks, seems that they sent me sterile water
instead of sporewater. After 1 email they
promptly sent out a new B+ syringe. I just cased
3qt of popcorn from that syringe. But, thats
another thread all together.

Thanks for all of Mycotopia.net's support, 1dm's
foaf for the SA spore print, and all the
frequenting members in chat.



(Message edited by raebis on November 27, 2004)
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8 people split it ?
hmm, should have felt some effects if that's nearly dry weight but you'd be amazed at how much a little water weighs.


Namaste


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1dumbmyco (1dumbmyco)
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quote:

you'd be amazed at how much a little water weighs.



Agreed totally. On thicker stemmed/thicker walled and fat assed species 24 under the fan and 24 hours over damprid isn't enough sometimes. My friend had to fan for 36 and keep em in the damprid container for 36-48 on some flushes to get em snap crackle pop dry. And you well know the thick footed characteristics of SAs hip! Enjoy Raebis as you should get a few more flushes here is flush 8 SA on the last MYCROTEK cake started in early August. The last three flushes were similar with slightly larger and more numerous fruits with many micropins that aborted because the organism had exhausted it's food supply. Don't mean to hijack your thread Raebis:D
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