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CardShark (Dustpan)
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 10:06 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I grew Cubensis once before a few years ago. I read an ad in High times about growing mushrooms, so I ordered a syringe and a book from Psilocybe Fanaticus.
The only knowledge I had about mycology was what was in the PF book. I was living in a trailer with no electricity and un-sanitary conditions. My sanitation methods were very primitive and I didn't have a pressure cooker.
All my cakes got contaminated with green mold. I was going to grow some more but my girlfriend was bitching about me growing mushrooms, which is funny because she didn't mind me growing bud. I ended up ditching the mushrooms idea and stuck with buying them every once in a while.

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Now I have a lot more knowledge, a new house, a very sanitary process, and most importantly the bitch is gone!

Mushrooms are great and I like growing my own stash whether it be Ganja, shrooms, or vegetables. I have always loved growing things and learning how to grow them better.

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I am using a basic popcorn tek, and following it word for word. I am preparing enough popcorn to fill 24 quart sized mason jars 2/3 full. The popcorn is soaking for 24 hours right now, then I'll strain it and put it into the quart jars to be PC'd for 1 hour at 15 psi.

Check out this glove box, its nothing fancy but it should do the job. I cut the holes by heating up a metal clothes hanger with a propane torch until it was red hot, then I used the hot hanger to cut out the 2 holes for the gloves to go into(A hot clothes hanger is the cheapest drill I've seen to work on plastic, and it works great). Don't try cutting the holes out with a knife or a saw, I learned the hard way; the side of the box shattered and cut my hand.

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A glove box is not necessary for inoculation but I plan on making my own spore prints. Since my first failed grow attempt I am going to inoculate the substrate in my Glove box also, because I am ultra paranoid of contams now.

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I am going to inoculate the popcorn with 5 different strains. I have Malabar, South American, Koh super strain, EQ, and Mazatapec. 6 jars will be inoculated with 2cc's of EQ, 6 with 2cc's Mazatapec, 6 with Malabar, 3 with 2cc's Koh SS, 3 with South American. I don't know why I chose 5 different strains, but it should be interesting to see how different they are. Immediately after inoculation I will transfer them to my incubation chamber.

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The Incubation chamber is a standard tub in tub. Silicone glue was applied to 4 large non threaded pipe fittings to be spacers between the tubs. The fully submersible water heater is a 50w I bought for $20 from pets-mart. It keeps the chamber at a stable 82F. I've read that the mycelium will raise the temp inside the jar by 5F so I think that 81F-82F should be ideal to keep the jars at 86F. Hopefully they will colonize quickly. After the jars are fully colonized I will case them.
The colonized substrate will be cased in tinfoil baking trays. 3 quart jars of dried popcorn 2/3 full will fill the baking tray a little over 1". I plan on using the 50/50+ casing tek. I will put the 8 casings in two fruiting chambers with two levels.

I plan on using a cool mist humidifier for humidity in my fruiting chamber. I am modifying Kaijan's Automated Grow System http://archives.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/6300.html?1007761745 . I think that this Fruiting Chamber is really neat. On each level of the chamber I will have 10 or so mini Christmas lights secured above the casings to provide light, and hopefully not too much heat . These lights will be on a 12/12 timer. I am thinking about poking a small hole about 1" above the bottom of the chamber to allow CO2 to escape (please tell me if this is a good idea, I want this chamber to be almost completely Automated.) I can't wait to get started on building my Fruiting chambers.

Well, I have a plan; hopefully all goes well. I will keep you all posted regularly on my progress with some mycoporn. Any help that can be given will be MUCH appreciated. I am really excited about growing mushrooms!!! Tomorrow I will post pics of my jars.
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Phungi (Phungi)
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Post Number: 131
Registered: 09-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 11:07 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looking good man! Cant wait to see how those 5 strains do.

Welcome to Mycotopia!
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CardShark (Dustpan)
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 12:02 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hehe thanks, I've been a board troll for a couple months now. I've basically read the whole archives, there is a lot of interesting stuff in there. I think I've studied mycology here more than I ever studied for my college classes. Anyone who is really serious about growing needs to read up heavily on mycotopia's archives.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 01:04 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

great introduction
nice write up
our archives are great, i agree.
nearly 4 years of the best posts ever made here
are stashed in there.
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righty (Righty)
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Post Number: 83
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 08:50 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I feel your pain. I put a good size cut in my hand when I was cutting on the exact same container. Same story.
At least it was a super clean cut and healed fast. Life is less difficult when you think before you act...maybe someday I'll learn to heed my own advice

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Dustpan (Dustpan)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 10:29 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Allright! The corn has finished being soaked for 24 hours and is already done being boiled. I boiled the corn for 1 hour, stirring every 5 - 10 minutes to prevent the corn from burning. I am using distilled water to boil it in. I bought the water from the supermarket for $1 a gallon (pretty cheap compared to evian ehh?).

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After the corn is done being cooked I put it in a strainer and rinsed it for about 3-5 minutes; then I let it drain for about 45 minutes so all the excess water could drain.

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Now it's time to lock and load the jars. I put some dry vermiculite on the bottom of the jar first to soak up any excess moisture (I hear this is a good idea.) Then I put the popcorn in the jars filling about 2/3 of the way. I capped it all off with a poli-fil filter lid.

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I used a reamer tool that is on my swiss army knife to make a hole on the top of the lid. I stuffed a bunch of poly-fill into each of the holes.

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After all this I put 2 layers of foil on top of the jars then it's off to the pressure cooker. I have cooked one batch so far and am about to start on the second batch. My pressure cooker is a 16 quart presto pressure cooker; it holds 7 quart jars at a time. I will need to cook 4 batches total for 24 jars.

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I think I will be able to finish off two or three batches tonight and be able to inoculate them tomorrow when I wake up; then I can finish the last batch or two and inoculate them by dinner time.




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Scotsman (Barrowland)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 06:27 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lookin good
We're Bought and Sold
For English Gold.
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Dustpan (Dustpan)
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 01:03 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I have half of my jars done and cooled down. Today I inoculated 12 jars each with 2cc's of fluid. 6 of the jars have 2 cc's of Ecuador (EQ), and 6 have 2cc's of Thai KS super strain (KSSS). Right now the last batch of my jars are cooling down and I should be able to inoc them in a few hours.

I was planning on inoculating the jars in my glovebox, but that was extremely cumbersome. I decided it would be easier if I cleaned up my kitchen stopped all drafts and turned on my hepa filter.

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Inoculating without the glovebox was soooo much easier, and I think I was pretty sterile about it too.

I shook the syringe first to disperse the spores. Before I shot up each jar I flame steralized the needle; Then I shot a little fluid out to cool the needle down. After I shot up the jar I put the tinfoil back over it labeled it then shook the jar up (I've read that this is the only time I will need to shake the jar.)

Now its off to the incubator for 12 of my jars.

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I will finish off with 6 jars Mazatapec(maz), 3 jars of South American (SA), and 3 jars of malabar(mal).

Thanks for the encouragement everybody! I will keep you posted on a regular basis. Any tips are greatly appreciated!
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Rio (Rio)
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Post Number: 573
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 05:35 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

I used a reamer tool that is on my swiss army knife



I have that exact knife, Victorinox!
Nice write up!

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Dustpan (Dustpan)
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 10:12 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've had that knife for over 10 years. Comes in handy all the time and still works like new. BTW the reamer works great to clean out metal pipes :-)
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Dustpan (Dustpan)
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 10:22 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Day 0:
I just finished Inoculating my last batch of jars. Now everything is in the incubator at 82 degrees. I labeled each jar with its own label(strain and jar #) so we can keep track of the progress of the jars.

6 EQ, 6 KSSS, 6 MAZ, 3 SA, 3 MAL = 24 total quart jars

I am thinking about installing a computer fan in the bottom of my incubator, do you think this would help very much in dispersing the heat?
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TiCo481 (Tico481)
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 12:47 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My friend is in the process of fruiting some popcorn jard he had and they are doing poorly because it is popcorn. the casing is fruiting alright but the cakes still haven't pinned after 3 weeks. I hope you have better luck than he has had. look forward to seeing some of your results
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Dustpan (Dustpan)
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 07:44 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ive seen people on the forums do pretty well with popcorn. I hope that it works for me, if it doesnt I will switch to brown rye probably.
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Rio (Rio)
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Posted on Friday, November 05, 2004 - 02:40 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the fan is a good idea!
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Dustpan (Dustpan)
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Posted on Friday, November 05, 2004 - 10:03 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Day 2:
No growth yet, as to be expected. All the jars are in the incubator at a constant 86 degrees F. I just got my cool mist in the mail so tomorrow I will start production of the fruiting chambers so I can run tests before the jars are fully colonized.
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Rio (Rio)
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Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 01:57 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A coolmist is the best thing I ever
purchased for air exchange & humidity!

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Dustpan (Dustpan)
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Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 04:56 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Im glad you like cool mists so much, I hear they work great! I cant wait to get started making my fruiting chambers. I don't have to work tomorrow so I am going to put some real time into making my gear! And I want to find some cool stuff to make my shrooms grow better, I think I am going to ditch the christmas light idea and get some nightlights. Christmas lights are unfavorable because they generate a good amount of heat, and my house pretty much always stays at about 70-75.

Do you think one nightlight per casing is sufficient? Should I go with a couple per casing?

(Message edited by dustpan on November 06, 2004)
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NEKO (Nekopan)
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Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 05:50 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What makes it the best Rio?

EDIT: One light per casing is much more than enough :-)

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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 12:41 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

am thinking about installing a computer fan in the bottom of my incubator, do you think this would help very much in dispersing the heat?



i would skip it,
or at least use a timer to ensure the fan only kicks on a minute or two every couple hours,
running it full time would likely contribute to drying out the jars faster than one wants.
not really needed anyway
as heat rises and in a closed chamber a circulation will naturally occur

Namaste


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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 12:42 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

btw
my compliments on your excellent growlog,
archive material

Namaste


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Dustpan (Dustpan)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 03:36 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you for the encouragement!!

Day 4:

I have been sick last couple days, and haven't left the house for much. I have been pretty reluctant to check up on the jars. Today I am feeling better, so I checked the jars and OH MY GOD, the THAI KS Super Strain has exploded, the only other jar that shows growth is malabar.

Here is the KSSS

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The only other jar that shows growth today is this MAL, and it is only in one little spot on the back of the jar.

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I look forward to checking them out tomorrow.
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pscillypj (Pcsillypj)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 08:01 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

always nice to see the white fluff...
hehehe...
"I hear colors and see sounds"

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