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Reefer37 (Reefer37)
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Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 09:20 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just wondering if Alfalfa or Timothy Hay could be used in the straw tek? (much easier to find where I live)
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Freakachino (Freakachino)
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There is always the straw hay debate. Hay will bring contams if its not been composted down to a straw like material. hay is very susceptible to molding. This is because it is cut when the grasses are wet.
Straw comes from grain stalks like wheat, etc. I would only suggest using straw. Walmart sells these little mini bales of straw in the craft section so may many craft stores like Michaels or Hobby Lobby. I found my straw bales at a local garden center for $3 a bale. A bale goes a long way. I haven't used the craft store kind but maybe someone else here has. I don't know of anyone having success with hay but maybe someone can help you if they have used hay before. I just don't think hay will work though. Hope that helps some. Peace!
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Chill (Chill)
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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 01:02 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea, haven't read anything good about hay myself.

Best way to find out about substitutes is just to try it and report back.
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sleepwalker (Sleepwalker)
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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 02:22 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

straw vrs hay huh.... well most would agree the hay would be the greater and hay the lesser but i never used hay so i cant speak from experience just what i know.....so yeah common sense use straw...peace.
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sleepwalker (Sleepwalker)
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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 02:24 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

error in that post straw would be the greater and hay the lesser err..humm *clears throat*
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Tobynutz (Tobynutz)
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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 03:22 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

check a craft store like michaels for actual straw. it's more expensive, but u dont have to buy a huge ass bale if your keeping things on the DL.
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GOLLY (Golly)
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One thing about Hay is that it often contains alot of seeds ,,,.After pasteurizing these seeds become a high nutrient source for contams--just like grain would...So it would proly b better to compost it first...
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 05:15 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

Just wondering if Alfalfa or Timothy Hay could be used in the straw tek?



don't use alfalfa for certain
i've heard mixed reports on timothy hay
but it too contains alot of green grass/seeds
and isn't really the best choice.

Namaste


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Reefer37 (Reefer37)
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Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 08:03 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks everyone! This probably saved me from having a big disappointment. Straw it is.
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Atleski (Cordyceps)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 05:39 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also, if it's difficult to find straw, it is possible to use pelletized straw mulch.

strawmulch

This was pasturized and drained for several hours.
spawn
spawn2

Actually, even if you can find straw, this is a good substrate.

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Willey (Willey)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 06:05 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who makes the pelletized straw mulch and where did you get it?
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Atleski (Cordyceps)
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The pelletized straw in the picture is made by "StrawNet."

It was found it at a hardware/garden supply shop.
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Reefer37 (Reefer37)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 06:43 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like its easier to work with. hmmmm.
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GOLLY (Golly)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 08:59 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some Pet shops carry the P Straw for Cat litter or bedding...
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Rio (Rio)
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 09:25 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is really nice growth!
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Atleski (Cordyceps)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 06:24 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone else worked with Pelletized straw? I read a mention of it in the Hydrogen Peroxide tek, but I haven't seen any other posts/websites about it.

I haven't conducted any major tests on it yet. But out of two casings of pellitized and two casings of regular chopped straw, the pelletized colonized fast.

I think this is because I am able to compact the pelletized together more, so the mycelium doesn't have to travel across as much open space.
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Yogi (Yogi)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 08:01 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this pelletized straw looks really good! would probably mix well with horse manure and verm to make a perfect substrate
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sleepwalker (Sleepwalker)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 10:43 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

fuck yeah i love learning something new.looks like a good thing with pellet straw.good find.peace
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Freakachino (Freakachino)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 02:11 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That pelletized straw looks like a really good addition for manure. Wow, I'll have to check my fav. garden store. I bet they have it, they carry tons of stuff. Thanks for sharing!
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 - 03:07 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

wow
first time i've seen pix of it
looks good
archive material

Namaste


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Yogi (Yogi)
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Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 06:41 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I bought some and when pasteurized it turned to mud! very soggy to work with. I tossed that batch out. Any suggestions on how to balance the moisture?
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Atleski (Cordyceps)
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Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 02:12 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It was allowed to drain for about 12 hours.
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Yogi (Yogi)
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Posted on Friday, December 10, 2004 - 07:02 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thats a very long drain. not sure what the advantages are. Where could you get such a large sieve anyway?
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Atleski (Cordyceps)
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Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2004 - 07:01 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

not sure what the advantages are.




The straw came out moist and sorta fluffy.


quote:

Where could you get such a large sieve anyway?




A huge aluminum one was found at a discount store.
"If we let our minds betray our fear, we're lost, lost utterly."
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2004 - 11:37 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

got any pix
of that fruiting ?

Namaste


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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2004 - 03:24 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

bump
?

Namaste


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