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Some Body (Texasshroomer)
Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2001 - 10:23 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just put some gulf coast mycelium cakes in a Perlite humidification Chamber. My question is how long will it take in the chamber before I see some shroom growth?

TS
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Ashenms (Ashenms)
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2001 - 10:52 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It all depends on how long you let them set in the jar at 100% colonization if you birthed them as soon as they did depending on what strain i would say a week to 2 weeks. Then would be ready to harvest a week later.

Ashe
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Saluras (Saluras)
Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2001 - 12:37 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

usually after full colonization you tend to see growth 2-4 days later. the longer the are invitro the better, but i wanted to point this out, if i let them stay in the jars an extra 3days they still seem to take 1-2 days for the primordia to really get going.

if they are PF classic thats a different story, PF's seem to fruit much stronger when there is already primordia on the cakes.
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pornderi Thompson (Pornderi)
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2001 - 05:05 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi. it's my first posting. I have 4 pf cakes but no fruitng for two weeks just moderate Fluffy Myceliums on the Cakes. I'm using Fish Tank Bubbler and Saran Wraps to cover the top so the humidity cann't be too high. Temps are around 82-83 c all the time. Is it because the mycelium network is not well established ( it is 100% colonized ) or the conditions just arn't right? I've tried putting ice pack in there to lower the temp to about 78 c but with no results. I need some help, I know patience is the key but i feel very uncertain right now about getting any cubies at all. Somebody please help me.
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relic (Relic)
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2001 - 08:31 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it doesn't sound like they are drying out. i would increase the Fannings a bit. other than that you can only wait. keep the Humidity up and give them Light. good luck
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Delta25 (Delta25)
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2001 - 08:43 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My b+ Flushed out nicely first flush after cleaning and dunking they looked horrid then they recovered and are nice and fluffy again my problem is it has been 2 weeks and no new pins how long does it usally take ?

and is there something i forgot or need to do to induce pinning
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hippie3 (Hippie)
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2001 - 02:49 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

assuming you are giving them the proper conditions to induce pinning,
light , infrequent air exchanges, warmth, etc.
then all you can do is wait.
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trent (Cali_Sk8r)
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 09:05 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After cleaning off a cake after a first flush, and then dunking it for 18 hours, i put my cakes into a Perlite Humidified Terrarium and Double-end cased them. How long before they should start Turning White, and how long is too long, for them to still be bluish. They've only been in for a day but they still look the same so I figured i had better check up =) thanks
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Hippie (Hippie)
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 02:18 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol
give them a few days, they'll start to get new growth.
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nick waters (Nickobod)
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 10:01 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I inoculated my jars 4 weeks ago. The mycelium appears to be fully colonized on the surface, but no pinners are showing. I was wondering if it would help to transfer them to a terrarium to encourage pin growth.
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Brad (Raze)
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 10:32 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Make sure they're getting lots of light
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hippie3 (Hippie)
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 10:36 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

actually, one usually gets better pin formation for first flush by delaying birthing until one sees several small pins while still invitro [in the jar.]
at 4 weeks, you're about due any day to see the first pins,
so i'd advise being patient a few more days.
what strain are you growing ?
how long have you been giving them light ?
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Underground_Shaman (Shaman)
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 10:38 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It can take a week or two to fully colonize the inside of the cake. In a week or so, you can cold shock the jars, and/or dunk them overnight in cold water in the fridge. Keep the terrarium at around 70-75F and you should see pins in a week or two.

Good luck

Peace,
Shaman
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nick waters (Nickobod)
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 01:43 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well, thanks a lot guys. I appreciate your help. I'm working on amazonian and equadorian. They are exposed to light for at least 2 hours a day( when I'm around the house) I'm getting really excited to see these beauties in all their glory, because it is the first time i've tried to grow mushrooms. Hopefully everything will go as planned up until harvest time.
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Snoopy (Snoopy)
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 02:07 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you've gotten this far I bet you'll do just fine. I have found that the EQ's pin really easy and will sneak right up on yah so be watchful and good luck!


Shroom Glossary
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onediadem (Onediadem)
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2001 - 05:12 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, My jars are looking real good, srong rhizmorphic patches ranging from 2-4". The only problem I see, is the stalled growth. I cracked the lids a little, and the temp is 86 degrees. No contams, just slow. I have no Idea what strain these are. Think they are thru or need some more time? I have 9 pint jars going. Think cause te are pints they need more time? I am way woozy from pain meds, and am a little lost right now.
Anyhoo, thanksfor the input,
live long, pj
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hippie3 (Hippie)
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2001 - 01:43 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

pints do take considerably longer.
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God O Mushies (Toadstool_God)
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 04:56 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just ordered my spores from Pf. I bought the PF strain as well as Mazateca. I am goin to use vermiculite and ground brown rice for the substrate and Im planning on using the Hippie Mycro Tek were you expose the jars to light throughout the colonazation process to get early invitro pinning and instead of birthing you leave em in. I have a few questions for anyone who has tried this method. How long roughly would it normally take from inoculation to pinning and fruiting in jars for both strains? Is the substrate formula given in the pf tek guide on the pf website a good one for this tek of growing or does anyone else have a tried and true one? Im planning on eating my mushies fresh without drying. My normal dose is 4 dried grams. How much should one eat when wet. This tek mostly produces abhorts and early mushies..will this make a difference in the dose I should take? Look forward also to hearing response's from anyone who has succesfully used this tek before. Thanks.
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hippie3 (Hippie)
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2001 - 05:28 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you should have pinning by 3 weeks, and be able to harvest first flush about 7-10 days later.
i use 1/2 c. verm., 1/4 ground brown rice and 1/4 c. water per jar, the pf max formula.
4 grams wet = ~ 40 wet.
take about 35 wet, to compensate for increased potency of aborts/primordia.
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ggg (Ggg)
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 03:34 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does this seem reasonable?

from print to hydrated syringe - 1 day
syringe to complete honey tek - 7 days
innoculation to full colonization - 13 days
casing incubation - 4 days
pinning to picking - 10 days =

35 days.
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hippie3 (Hippie)
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 04:29 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

perhaps a bit optimistic,
but not unreasonable.
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ggg (Ggg)
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 08:49 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is an actual time line Hip. I was thinking it was fast but I thought it might be crazy fast and I didn't want to have to catch flak for posting a crazy number!
I think he had 100% colonization in a few jars in 11 days!
Estimated the pinning to picking but saw colonized casings with knots forming in 26 to 27 days. The myc just exploded through the casing layer.

PF Haw. shot 3 cc.'s at a time in five point patterns into FULL pint jars of 4 parts verm, 2 parts cooked whole BR, 1 part sifted worm castings, and a pinch of calcium carb. Incubated @ 87 deg. whole time light 24/7, and flipped at 40-50%.

Cased in 50/50 verm/Miracle grow potting soil, pinch of sifted castings, splash of calc. carb.


piece and peace and thanks
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nuecrew (Nue)
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 09:11 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do a Michael Jackson moon walk with that and it's complete! I just love this hobby too. I've alway loved insects and plants..nature and this I can do indoors, be in touch with the mother and not have to go to strangers for my entheogen.
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Snoopy (Snoopy)
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2002 - 10:15 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can believe 13 days for complete outter colonization. I imagine the entire outside was covered but not the center was colonized. For better growth I would hold off until day 18 or so to birth them to insure that the center is colonized. Also I know I am not imagining it when I give an extra CC of solution to each jar it colonizes considerabley faster.
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Dr. Cubesis III (Newbieshroomer)
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2002 - 06:58 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm,

Yep ggg, My buddy has gone from point "A" to eating shrooms in 32 days. If ya get a handle on things, you can afford to be optomistic.

You need to cut it down by four days to beat my buddy though :)
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ggg (Ggg)
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 12:38 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

good call snoop

3 of Jimmy's 12 jars were not ready and required surgery before they were cased.

My buddy told me he had heard he could just cut out the uncolonized portions and case the rest!
I had read that around here so I told him to go for it!

Jimmy thinks he can cut his time down by using more liquid culture in 1/2 pints, not full pints, earlier flipping and temps around 90 deg.

I think he can keep trying to cut time but it's hard to sprint your way through a marathon.

piece
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Maliki vision seaker (Maliki)
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2002 - 05:15 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some of my 1/4 pints pinned in 24 days . I didnt relize my timline was that good. Inoculate Dec 24th . All jars showed growth on the 27th . On the 30th 1/2 pints where around 30% colonized . The 1/4 Pints where around 50% colonized a few where a litle more. On the fourth 19 jars where 100% colonized 7 where 1/2 pints 12 where my 1/4 pints . I put them still in there jars into the fruiting chamber . The lite is an 15 watt Vitta Brand Light (full spectrum) Floro . Left them in the chamber under 12 on 12 off light . Temps only upper 60,s at first then i got it regulated to 75 . On the 17th of jan I spoted my first pin and upon realy checking well found that it was time to birth 7 of the 1/4 pints. By the 20th i had mushrooms drying in descant.

I used a liquid clone tek in dextrose . For inoculation , and used around double the amount if inoculant per jar while jar was on its side. Incubated in A colmen cooler with a fishtank heater in a jar , worked awsome i must say. Incubated at 86 exact . Used all mercury thermometers for regulating temps. The jars where all made per Pf Max Fruit Formula. The 1/4 pints where simpley split in half as far as measures went. Each jar was mixed individualy.