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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 03:19 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ops, i goofed just a bit.
i neglected to consider the tek,
and just assumed you were boiling the materials in cola instead of just soaking.
if you don't boil but just let it sit like he does then you proly should follow the tek and add the mimosa to the cola 5-7 days before you plan your voyage.
it'd be much faster to boil the materials in the cola instead, the solvent will act the same either way and the extra energy, both thermal and mechanical added by the boiling process will greatly speed up the extraction of the actives from the material.
but either way can work so suit yourself.
now when i say 'boil', btw, i mean a long slow low boil, more of a gentle simmering like in a crockpot, not too hot or you'll ruin it.
powder and fiber sounds about right.
btw, that's a pretty strong [potentially] dose of mimosa/rue, so tread cautiously and drink it in portions so you can guage the effects a bit before you chug the rest.

i wouldn't be too worried about morella's threats,
i talked to god this morning and he says to enjoy.
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Redmonk (Redmonk)
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 03:35 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From your friends recipe : "Now let sit for 5 to 7 days shaking every day. Then on the day of departure, open the bottles carefully to allow the gas to excape. And after it sets and goes flat pour off each into separate sauce pans and boil down to 200 ml. (about 2/3 cup)."
I was planning on following these directions , but do you think I should skip the 5-7 day soak , as I won't be decanting the brew ?
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 03:50 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

no, i wouldn't skip it unless, like i said above, you boil instead.
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Redmonk (Redmonk)
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 09:32 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm a bit confused now ( heh...what's new ?)-- you say soak it ( "if you don't boil but just let it sit like he does " )or boil it.....but doesn't the recipe call for both (boiling it down at the end of the soaking period) ?
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 11:51 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

not the same, redmonk.
that last boil is brief and you just boil off the excess liquid after it's been strained off the materials.
that won't help the extraction process.
so the 5-7 days soak is for extraction,
and you'll need that long because it's a cold extraction instead of the more traditional brewing method which is to simmer it a minimum of several hours if not a couple days.
even then, after you simmer the materials to do the extraction, you'll still need to boil it down to a couple hundred ml before you drink it.
but if you just dump the powder in the coke,
follow the tek and let it soak.
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Redmonk (Redmonk)
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 01:55 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now I get it . Thanx Hippie !
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Redmonk (Redmonk)
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 12:37 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hippie : On Erowid's list of foods to avoid with maoi's , they list "liquid and powdered protein dietary supplements ".
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/maois/maois_info2.shtml
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 01:05 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

bummer.
back to the books i guess.
noticed the source was "anon" from '89.
wonder what the real medical pros have to say.
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lurker (Lurker)
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 02:45 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The deal is as follows: when taking maoi, one must avoid foods containing the amino acid tyramine. Since those protein powders generally have all of the amino acids, they've probably got tyramine in there.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 02:51 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

gotcha now, thx for pointing that out.
the devil's always in the details, eh ?
well, back to milk/orange juice, etc.
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Redmonk (Redmonk)
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 12:18 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hippie - Is your friend's Cola Tek intended to be strained at the end of the process ? I assume it is , hence all the shaking everyday for a week (extraction) . I know it would be stronger if I consumed the silt too , but I want this to be a good first experience.....as opposed to a vomit fest . I'm making two batches , maybe I'll try one with silt and one without .
I read in DeKorne's book that taking lecithin before dosing greatly reduces nausea . Has anyone tried this ?
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 12:41 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

not i.
but i'd chug the brew, silt and all.
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lurker (Lurker)
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 03:57 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's a link to a comprehensive listing of foods to avoid on MAOI. The formatting kind of sucks, but at least the info is there.

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