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SA on Hominy 2nd FlushJoe MillionaireJoe Millionaire28 1 02-16-04  08:13 pm
Hominy experiance pictures (900x600, dialip beware)PskovinskyPskovinsky23 1 02-24-04  02:17 am
SA "Isolate" on Hominy(?)Joe MillionaireHippie314 1 02-25-04  08:51 pm
Hominy and Worm Pooop growlog: Strain?mamahuhumamahuhu1 1 04-05-04  05:53 am
Archive through August 06, 2003cubester1Hippie374 1 08-06-03  11:10 pm
Archive through August 16, 2003cubester1Hippie320 1 08-16-03  01:36 pm
Oat flakes cake- Alternative substrate experiment pictorialHippie3Hippie32 1 08-20-03  03:00 pm
TRY THIS MIX RATIO " PopCorn / Dried Corn / Coffee Beans " Hippie3Hippie33 1 08-21-03  01:43 am
Archive through August 28, 2003Hippie3Machine20 1 08-28-03  01:57 pm
Navy beans as experimental substrateHippie3Hippie34 1 09-07-03  12:48 pm
(sealed) casing questionPskovinskyHippie310 1 12-03-03  11:30 pm
Worst pinset ever, but i'm still happy!PskovinskyPskovinsky6 1 12-27-03  05:39 pm
Hominy questionLarryWankerDoodle3 1 12-28-03  02:32 am
Hominy experiancesPskovinskyHippie34 1 01-29-04  12:39 pm
Joe Millionaire's Hominy PrepJoe Millionairechnop3565 4 02-04-04  02:09 am
Grits as substratedat-jerk-from-tripledat-jerk-from-triple51 2 06-08-04  01:08 am

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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 11:17 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mine's still just sitting there, apparently healthy.
hope this last heat wave didn't kill it.
how big is that and how many pins ?
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Machine (Machine)
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 04:05 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's the small gladware container. 1qt of substrate. There are about 25-30 pins from the looks of it...
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 04:09 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

excellent,
be sure to post updates/pix as they grow, plz.
thx.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2003 - 04:37 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

great news!
my sole surviving hominy is beginning to fruit.
13 days after casing, not too bad.
pins still too small for my crappy cam but soon.
so i guess that awful heat wave didn't kill it.
still i'm sure it didn't help.
more experiments are still needed and planned
but i'm still inclined to think canned hominy will prove to be a decent substrate.
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Machine (Machine)
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 04:17 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would have to say it's doing ok as a substrate. These are my pins three days later. These are EQs.
eq
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 01:49 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

not too shabby,
hope mine do as well.

what kind of casing there ?
coir/verm ?
are both jars in that one tray ?
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 02:50 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

just checked on mine,
looking good, i may get a little better yield on this 1st flush than yours, at least from the look of it so far.
now after suffering thru many days of 100*+ temps, we're unseasonably cold, had to fire up a heater in the grow shed.
should have a few pix in a couple more days.
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Machine (Machine)
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 06:53 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I checked mine this morning and it is looking a little better. Both jars are in one container. It is cased with 50/50. Should have used coir but the pet shop was out. It's unseasonably cool here too..but still well above 70 during the day. I'm really growing to loath the heat.

eq2
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 07:07 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

nice pic.
could you plz describe what the fruiting set-up is,
cool mist or perlite, rubbermaid or ?
etc.
thx
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Machine (Machine)
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 02:56 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thx,
Fruiting chamber is a shelving unit covered in heavy duty "drop cloths". Cool mist on for 3 mins every 110 mins. I've had great success with this one..I've got three tray's of TC that are on their 6th flush and several EQ that are on their 4th with no contamination at all. Plenty of fresh air.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:50 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok, some pix of my hominy pinning.
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Machine (Machine)
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 01:24 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looking good. I harvested the first flush. 129 grams wet from two pints. Not bad...I'm sure I could do better. But it's obvious that hominy is a worth while substrate.
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rodger rabbit (Skyypilot)
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 03:57 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does the hominy stay intact when you shake the jars, or does it turn to mush?
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 11:36 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mine stayed intact.
i only shook once, gently.
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onediadem (Onediadem)
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 11:32 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Im liking the looks of this tek. Ive been paying almost 2 bucks a lb for brf. I may have to give this one a go also. Would your conclusions be it was worth using? Would it be something you would do again? Continuously? Would you replace the PF tek altogether with this tek? Im all about easy, ya know? I also do not have an automated setup, so would this factor in?
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 11:56 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

all good questions, dia.
unfortunately i'm not quite yet where i can answer unequivocally.
i am planning on doing several more trial runs.
i would tend to view this method not as a replacement for the pf tek as such.
the pf tek, athough more labor intensive, would still be a bit easier to fruit successfully.
i'd say this is more like the next step up,
for anyone wanting to try their hand at grain teks without having to buy a pc or go thru the hassle of hatching endospores, cooking grain, getting moisture content right, etc.
one could crank out alot of hominy spawn quickly and cheaply, making larger scale operations more feasible than pf tek.
but i would not yet want to advise anyone to put all their eggs in one basket, so to speak.
i need a few more successful tests before i'm ready to wholeheartedly endorse hominy as 'the' way to go.
still a 'work in progress' at this point.
i'll know a great deal more in another 6-8 weeks.
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DaLurker (Spawn142)
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 11:57 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If $ is an issue, hominy and popcorn beat brown rice hands down. FOAF is currently in the middle of her own hominy experiment but she already feels that hominy has potential. PF tek cannot be replaced imho as it is simply the most effective, newbie friendly tek out there. However, PF tek has spawned several variations. This is where I feel hominy has great potential. FOAF is using hominy(steamed in jars not PC) to spawn into PF substrate(steamed in gallon ziplocs not PC) ala Eatyualive's Mofo Bag tek. To her surprise, hominy is excellent for spawning. And she suspects that her Mofo Fatcakes will fruit better than standard PF substrate because of more diverse and plentiful nutrition in the cake. Hominy also hold an obscene amount of water for it's size. This makes her suspect that 1st flushes will benifit greatly from the presence of the hominy in the standard PF substrate.

I am looking forward to seeing how the Hominy Experiment pans out(forgive the obscure pun).
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onediadem (Onediadem)
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:46 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I suppose I should clarify a little, lol. I glady pay the 2 bucks a lb for the ease. However, I have to make a special trip to the health food store, its alot further than the grocery store. I guess my questions were more out of laziness and ease of this tek than from a cost factor.
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jimmy jublanski (Zoomerhead)
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 01:59 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

onediadem: health food store? are you using organic brf? my friend buys the cheap 52 cents a pound stuff in the bulk bin at his local grocery store it's not organic or anything special. then he grinds it up in a coffee bean grinder. "works like a charm and very cheap" he says. if you have reservations about not using organic.....buy a small amount and try it on half a dozen jars. if it works chances are you will never look back...he didn't!! just a thought
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 02:27 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

agreed.
a cheap electric coffee grinder and bags of generic rice have served me well.
but if you want to be lazy,
i'm thinking canned hominy dumped into foodsaver bags, boiled and sealed with an impulse sealer or even just folded over, is the lazy way to go.
everything goes out in the trash, bags and cans so no jars to clean, no huge numbers of jars to explain, etc.
case the hominy or even better use it to spawn a few straw logs, etc.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 02:44 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

a couple more current pix of the hominy pie
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 12:05 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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afternote:
i think i made the casing too wet,
i proly should have used a bit less water to compensate for the hominy's high moisture content,
as the shrooms seem pretty water-logged.
this fact is also evidenced by the several shrooms which
are opening their caps while still quite short,
something i've seen before that often correlates with
excessive water content.
still, the pinset is very nice,
and the shrooms otherwise appear normal.
we picked off what appears to be about the equivalent
of a couple dry grams so a potency bio-assay is planned
in the near future.
will update as feasible.


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ok, we did our bio-assay yesterday AM,
very pleased, quite obviously cubies grown on canned hominy have normal potency.
picked the pie clean this AM,
pretty nice flush in all,
only complaint was they all were short-ish
but they were plentiful. many sporulating,
so we also know that's not affected.
i'll post a pic later of the flush drying.
btw, 2nd flush is already beginning to form,
i can see several tiny hyphal knots .

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two posts i made in the twin thread at shroomery
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 12:09 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

here's a couple crappy pix of the pie's 1st flush [minus what i ate yesterday].
i ain't saying i'm real proud of it
but still it's not too shabby for ~1 qt of canned hominy.
esp. considering it's my 1st time thru with it.
i think i can improve my results considerably now that i have some experience with it.
and there's still more to come yet from this pie next flush.

1st flush
1st flush
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 02:27 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

one other factor to consider-
banrot 40 wp was used when the 3n1 was mixed,
as well as in the misting water twice.
so that might account for the short stature,
among other possible factors.
but i noticed machine's were also pretty short when the caps popped open,
so there may be something about the hominy itself.
more experiments are still needed.
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onediadem (Onediadem)
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 06:22 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

looks promising Hip, keep 'em comin!
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 01:18 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

water-logged was right,
they've shriveled up to almost nothing.
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Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 10:45 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 12:59 am:

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I got insane visuals from some B+'s recently, grown on yellow hominy(low sodium... like 180mg/serving) and cased. I was really surprised. They are even pinning invitro in another hominy jar, so they ought to do decently in pf invitro i would imagine.

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