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Leprachaun (Leprachaun)
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:29 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I ground up 23g of caapi and sieved it for a few mins through a permanent coffee filter into a half pint jar to separate the powder from the fibres. I then ground it again and sieved again to get some more powder. I then rinsed the fibre residue (16g) with 100ml purified water to wash off more dust into the jar.

I twice ground and sieved 20g of mimosa. There was only 3.9g fibre residue left which I rinsed with 50ml water.

I drank the caapi, then 1 hour later the mimosa. 1.5hrs after that I was only tripping very mildly so I ate some well buttered toast and had a fairly strong dream.

I tried the same method with a batch of viridis which I knew was potent but the dream was only very weak. I think it was because the leaf powder is much harder to digest and the dmt was not absorbed. Mimosa easily goes into a very fine flour when ground. Leaves have gummy/waxy stuff in them which seems to make them hard to digest and absorb.

I only tried this method a few times and I am unsure of the quality of the dream it produces. I would like to hear from other dreamers who try this method.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 03:43 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

interesting.
so you're still in pursuit of an extraction-less method.
i'd try that one again but with more caapi.
i suspect you have plenty of mimosa but a lack of caapi will limit the dream.
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Leprachaun (Leprachaun)
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 01:36 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Caapi is very fibrous so that's why there was such a large amount of residue. It is hard to reduce totally to powder. This is a method I tried a while ago but don't bother with now. It may be useful for preparing a dose in a hurry.

I've started brewing with 50ml vinegar per 500ml purified water per 25-30g herbs and things are looking good. I had a great trip a few days ago with 25g caapi and 25g cabrerana, and virtually NO NAUSEA!!! I'll be tripping again tomorrow night to confirm how well it works. Vinegar is brilliant. I will never use lemon juice again. The finished brew is quite acidic BUT the sharp taste and smell of the vinegar seems to mask the tannin!!!

I was trying to brew without acid to escape from the nauseating taste, but now that I have discovered vinegar I am ok. I still don't really believe that the acid makes the alkaloids water soluble. I think it just dissolves the gums off the leaves to release the dmt crystals. However it IS essential. I am so glad I am back on track now. I was getting very depressed and tearing my hair out for a long time. And wasted shitloads of valuable herbs too. But I have come through it all with a much better understanding of the brewing process, and potency which rivals my first brew.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 11:12 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

good to see you realized that some acid is pretty much essential.
i know many like the vinegar but i can't stand the taste of it, worse than lemon juice imo.
different strokes for different folks, i guess.
tried the hcl method yet ?
or the carbonatated cola one ?
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Leprachaun (Leprachaun)
Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 12:45 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll stick with vinegar for the meantime.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 01:46 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey whatever works for you.

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