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XUnkyHerbX (Notapplicable)
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 01:07 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, Nan told me I needed constant temps. So in my closet, I made a little box with a shelf and the walls, and the ground. On the side where you open the door, I nailed a black cotton shirt to keep heat in and light out. Then I made a diagonal board going top left to bottom right for space issues. UNDER the board are my jars. ONTOP of the board, is a 60 watt lamp with a 60 watt bulb, resting on this thick plywood slab. I covered the walls and the top with saranwrap, to keep the heat that rises up, down. Then I have a towel on the bottom edge crack of the door when it's closed, to keep anything excess in.

The bottom is a rug, that's my main concern. Is this dangerous? The area is about 2' by 1' by 1'.. not very big. 60 watt bulb resting on a slab of thick plywood, with the jars under it.

Should I only keep the light on for an hour or two every 6 hours? I can't afford a timer :( Hmmmm.... What if I put the bulb in a bowl of water, with the diameter of the bowl small enough to keep the electric part of the bulb out of the water. Safer? Extra humidity help at all? Muchos gracias seniors.
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Nan (Nanook)
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 01:24 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would not set the bulb on anything flammable like wood, cardboard, plastic, cloth, carpet or the like. Use a ceramic tile, brick, sheet metal, something that will not catch fire.

Don't submerge bulbs in water, it is a nasty shock hazard.
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greenthumb (Greenthumb)
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 02:39 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can make a heat sink/protector out of coffee cans. Mount socket for light bulb in a small coffee can. Run the wires out of the bottom of the can. Using the can as a metal lamp shade, add a new and larger can/shade around the small can.

You now have a lightbulb in a can, in a can.
Just duct/electrical tape, wire nut, protect your wires from cuts and shorts.

As long as nothing gets IN the can, things touching the can will get warm but not hot. You can run one of those heater bulbs on a timer.

Just check out the cost- timer $10 (home depot/lowes/etc), heat bulb about $10.

I don't know if this helps you- It worked for me once.
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I feel so weird (Phishgrower)
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 09:52 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I incubated my jars with a heating pad on top of the box set to low. This worked well. I want to use the heating pad as an a heat source for the fruiting as well. I have 2 sterilite containers sitting on top of each other with the heating pad in the middle. Will this be enough heat? Should I perhaps turn it to medium rather than low?

Thanks.

By the way, I had to leave a flat cake for about 5 days. When I left there was nothing on it but now there are small shrooms popping out of the sides. Since I haven't tended to them for a while I'm wondering if there is anything I should do other than start the normal fanning and so on?
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Cragith Kilbonith (Kilborn)
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2001 - 10:14 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

should be fine, keep it on low. are the jars in the 'maids with the heating pad in middle or ball box with the heating pad with another box stacked ontop?
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Tripster (Tripster)
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 05:29 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Perhaps you might be able to buy a thermometer and then you could experiment with the temp setting to get it where you want it to be. I got an electronic one at walmart for about $15 that tells the humidity and the temp... just a suggestion...
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Patrick (Valence)
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 05:56 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Remember that keeping normal, short term use heating pads on all the time with things on top of them is a possible fire hazard. There was a long discussion in here about that but I can't find it. Find something to separate the two chambers. Some kind of riser on all the corners will do. Doesn't have to be high, just not compressing the pad. As far as using a heating a pad for the chamber themselves. It doesn't give even heat for the whole chamber. One side will be cold and one side will be hot. Would work better in a small enclosed space or wrapped in a blanket. As far as the temp. You can get a strip thermometers for fish tanks for a dollar. This would work. Better to have one side colder than normal than to have one side to hot.
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Herman Manderchuck (Youenjoymyself)
Posted on Monday, November 26, 2001 - 06:47 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How cold does your place get?? I've never used anything to amplify heat during fruiting and everything always turns out just fine....Be careful with those heating pads!! I've heard horror stories!!!Low temps can only slow growth, heat can kill....
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serialkiller1 (Serialkiller1)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 05:33 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i just birhted my pf cakes 2 days ago and i am getting paranoid. i have 6 pf cakes in a 10 gal. aquarium with moist perlite at the bottom. I have a heating pad under the tank to keep it warm.(reason for doing this is because we keep the house cold about 70- 75 deg. i mist the sides of the tank once a day. and fan the tand once a day. i have a 50 watt. reptile light in there that is supposed to be almost like natural light. i know i seem paranoid but this is my first batch. i would feel a lot better if i could have some reasurrance. thanks a lot for all the help

much love
serialkiller1
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Hippie (Hippie)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 05:40 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

everything sounds ok,
but i hope you put a spacer of some sort between the heating pad and the terrarium.
it's a fire hazard if you let it weigh down onto the pad.
or put the pad on top of it.
be watchful of the perlite moisture when using heat, it dries out much quicker.
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serialkiller1 (Serialkiller1)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 05:51 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i put a towel in between the tank and the pad
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Nan (Nanook)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 06:04 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unless you are using a pet store type under tank heater (UTH) for reptiles, you have a potential problem on your hands. Regular heating pads are not rated for this service and creates a fire hazard.

If you can figure some means to take the weight off the pad you will be OK. What you want is some spacers under the edges of the tank that will lift it up high enough that the pad moves around freely. This will also go far to help regulate the temperature.

And Hippie is right about Perlite drying up when using bottom heat. Stick a finger in there on occasion and make sure it is staying nice and moist. Add some H202 & H2O when required to keep it hydrated.
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serialkiller1 (Serialkiller1)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 09:00 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how far above the heating pad? and what type of spacers? like 1-1 1/2 inch pcv spacers. for plumbing. i thought the towel would be enough. one more question. how much light should i give ive been doing 1 to 1.5 hours on and then 4-5 hours off.thanks for the help guys.
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Nan (Nanook)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 09:30 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How thick is your pad? Lift up the tank one pad thickness, just enough that there is no pressure on the pad. The spacers can be anything, stacked disks of cardboard even. Just make sure you provide enough support.

The Light is no problem.
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The Silly Scybe Scribe (Toadstool_God)
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2002 - 10:31 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sterilized and innoculated my jars! I used 9 1/2 pint canning jars with a cooked brown rice substrate. Though I have both Mazateca and PFC I dont like putting all my eggs in one basket so I only used the PFC. I used nine jars so I could give one jar 2 cc's of liquid to see if this speeds up colonazation or not. Im keeping a journal of my little project and will keep you guys updated. I want to say thanks to everyone here. You all have helped me to finally get this going. Thanks guys and gals.
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Nan (Nanook)
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2002 - 11:40 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good Luck Man Success Is At Hand !!!
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hippie3 (Hippie)
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2002 - 01:33 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how are you incubating them ?
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The Silly Scybe Scribe (Toadstool_God)
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2002 - 02:05 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Small nightstand lookin thing with a heating pad underneath keeping it about 80f. I also have a small light in there because Im planning on growing them invitro.
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hippie3 (Hippie)
Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2002 - 02:17 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

be careful---don't put any weight on a regular heating pad---
FIRE HAZARD!!
instead, use a spacer of some sort to lift the container/terrarium at least an inch or so above the pad.