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Nuecrew (Nuecrew)
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2001 - 08:20 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I made two of the milk jug type 9er tek grow units. One had two very good flushes and one had about half the output of the first. When I took them apart to see what happened under the surface I saw lots of thick ropy strands extending towards the surface of the casing. Like little roots from the cake to the shroom. The cakes had shrunk to about 1/2 the original size and it looked as though the mycelia all around the rice had sucked out moisture and rice inside the hull. One of the cakes in the milk jug that didn't do so well had a core of "mush" that mycelia didn't infiltrate like the rest, and thus food and water couldn't get out.
What if one where to inject water into the casing between first and second flushes. I noticed even with proper humidification the casing seem quite dry. Rehydrating of the casing? One person suggested to carefully bring the moisture of the casing up by spraying after the first flush. Is it necessary or a lost cause to attempt rehydrating once it all starts growing? Thanks
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Nan (Nanook)
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 12:16 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After a flush scrape off the old casing, then replace it with clean, very damp, casing mix
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Nuecrew (Nuecrew)
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 04:58 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now why didn't I think of that! Thanks
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greenthumb (Greenthumb)
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 12:39 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

DON'T DO THIS!!!!!LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP!!!

My friend just went to take a good look at some casings he made 4 days ago and has been incubating since. He is nervous because these are his first casings. His casing is Hongus style with this formula for the mix:
4 cups corse grade verm
2 cups Miracle Grow potting soil
2 cups worm castings
3/4 cup pure Calciun Carbonate (from health food store).
3 TBS gypsum

Well he takes the plastic wrap off the casings and freaks!!!!
He put a 1/2 top layer on these beds and he has spots of thick white fuzz in at least 5 spots on every bed!!!
He couldn't keep his temp above 75 deg. so he wasn't expecting rapid growth!!!Not to poke through 1/2" of what he was told would be a heavy casing mix.
He should have checked this great info before he acted.

Before he saw this in the archives he went ahead and flicked the white fuzzies off, sprayed it with H2o/H2o2 mix, and covered with a thin but solid layer of strait verm.
WHAT AN IDIOT!!!!
All the cased beds were put back in perlite containers, without covers and lights on(he tells me he intends to fan frequently).
Is my friend on the right track? Should he go ahead and try to pin?? Should he let the myc. recover from the needless trauma?? Should he get a bottle of single malt and learn to sing the blues???
He's a little pissed right now and really hopes he didn't do himself wrong?

Any advice I can pass on to this dumb bastard?
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Lichen (Lichen)
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 12:47 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

be patient...your mycelium needs time to recover for a few days. Sounds like it was right on target before the panic attact
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greenthumb (Greenthumb)
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2001 - 01:10 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

COOL thanks Lichen
I'll pass it on
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Adam (A3d0a3m)
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2001 - 04:56 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

First ever casing!!! :)


I've cased 1 half pinter with vermiculite as explained in hongus. On another casing guide http://www.erowid.com/entheogens/mushrooms/mushroom_cult4.shtml it says to poke holes in the saran wrap... any comments on this? We're low on humidity [bubbler in water isn't cutting it right now], so we're gunna add perlite on the bottom tomorrow-- should we wait to poke the holes until we have 95% RH?

Also, we were thinking about covering the mycelium that has poked through, about 20% of the surface, with some sterilized moistened vermiculite-- how thick should this covering be?


Thank you guys!
Adam.
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relic (Relic)
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2001 - 06:04 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the reason that you poke holes in the covering is that it greatly reduces the likelyhood of getting contaminants while the casing is being colonized. casings need air exchange. don't worry about the casing drying out from the holes, just mist it if need, as needed, until pinning begins.
just cover the early spots enough to cover them, the rest of the casing is likely not too far behind.
good luck