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Redmonk (Redmonk)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 02:42 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello all-
The other day , a lost carrier pigeon landed on the branch outside my window . He had a piece of paper rolled up and tied to his leg . I carefully removed it and unfolded it . This is what it said :

Where do I begin ? Two nights ago I had the grandaddy of all hyperspatial, out-of-body , white-knuckled , full-blown psychedelic experiences of my life ! I've never been so utterly terrified ........
Let me back up for a moment . Four weeks ago I decided to try my own hand at brewing Ayahuaska . I used mimosa hostilis and syrian rue . The components were ground up so fine that , after long brewing , I decided to drink the sediment and all .....so as not to waste anything . I've never been so sick in my life ! I spent five hours with my head in the toilet while green and purple waves of nausea swept through me . At one point , on hands and knees in my kitchen , I looked up to find a large
grasshopper on my refridgerator , observing me at eye-level . It stood out as a bit strange , so I took note of it and went back to my wretching . A week later I was reading "Ayahuaska Visions" and was quite surprised to read that the grasshopper is one of the physical representations of the spirit of the Vine . In any case , I had some mild hallucinatory visuals but the nausea pretty much over-rode everything else .
One week ago I decided to try again . This time I used banisteriopsis caapi and psychotria viridis . 30 (dried) grams of each. After consuming , I waited about two hours and very little was happening so I gave up and went to sleep . I opened my eyes an hour later and began to roll over when...bam ! I was tripping pretty good ! Many visions of moving , intelligent rope-like things moving all around me and through me . This lasted about an hour , then back to sleep . Nothing earth-shattering , but a definite step in the right direction .
This past weekend I decided to try one more time with a slightly beefed-up brew ( 40 grams each) , slow simmered for a good ten hours . I planned to take it Sunday night . Sunday afternoon I was walking on the sidewalk outside of the local supermarket , thinking about the grasshopper that I had spied a few weeks prior . I wondered if I would see another one . At that exact moment I looked down at my feet and to my astonishment......there sat a grasshopper , facing me . I knelt down and said "see you tonight ...." .
Now for the real story . After consuming ( 11:30 pm) , I waited . And waited . I felt a bit strange , but nothing too much . I invoked the spirit of Ayahuaska to reveal herself to me and to heal me . Around 1:30 am I remembered that a little Leprachaun said that eating a little something could bring on the effects from a stalled trip . I ate three bites of buttered toast and smoked a bit of Cannabis to stave off the nausea . I went and laid down . Fifteen minutes later it finally kicked in . I spent the next hour tripping pretty good , similair to the last experience in intensity . When it faded , I remember thinking "is that it ?" ........ Then all hell broke loose .
Something swept over me and carried me into the continuum . The intensity level went from zero to infinity in a split second . Completely separated from my body , I tried not to panic........but for God's sake , I was no longer in possesion of my body , or any body for that matter . Then I saw my body as it was , laying on the bed . I wasn't breathing and my vital signs were shutting down . I was undeniably dead ! I was so scared ...."you've really done it this time" I thought . I went into shock . The
thought of never seeing my family again was overwhelming . Try as I might to get "back in" , it was impossible . Then the ultimate roller-coaster ride began . Folks , I honestly don't know how to describe all the things that happened next . My disembodied conciousness split up and divided into an infinite multiverse of indescribable speed and intensity . I saw my family grieving my death . I experienced my own death a thousand times over . I felt that a presence was over-seeing this whole "process" . I felt caring hands on me and a voice telling me to let myself die , not to cling to my " former" life . I saw my body completely disintegrate and disappear . I saw infinite realms reeling by at lightning speed . I became the embodiment of eternal suffering . Years rolled by . Every now and then I was back in my room . I tried to sing ( a tip from Terence McKenna to use in a tricky
situation ) , but jibberish came out . I understood how speech was tied in with (or became ?) matter . And then the presence said "We're not done yet..." and I was wisked out of my body once again . I saw a giant mushroom cloud and the end of this world . At one point I tried to scream for my wife while , at the same time , I was an infant being born and the only thing that came out of my mouth were babies cries . Something very profound occured in a timeless place where I came , finally, face to
face with.......myself ? Then , after 3 hours of all this , I was actually re-assembled into a new body with all my old memories included ! I was also shown something very sacred that made me cry . It was a classic tale of death and resurrection . I honestly feel as though I was reborn into a new body / mind . In my wildest dreams I never thought that I would return here....ALIVE !!!! I still can't believe I'm back .
Now that's some powerful medicine .

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Natura (Natura)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 06:05 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hehehe, NICE.
Keep drinking and Tea-Dancing.
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Leprachaun (Leprachaun)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 11:31 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, what a super trip!!! It's strange that you came down and then came back up again more intensely. Might you have smoked a cigarette, or tobacco with cannabis after the first peak was over? I'm eagerly looking foward to my next trip and your report has me all excited now. I can relate to some of your experiences and insights such as an affinity with certain animals, going into shock, painful intensity, and wondering how I managed to returned to normality after such a heavy trip. The experience of being reborn sounds wonderful. I think I will start upping my own doses to go further too.

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kahlil (Kahlil)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 11:52 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, thanks for sharing that. Looks like i'll be doing some reading up on Ayahuaska at erowid. It doesn't sound like it's for me quite yet, but good to know about.
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omnibot (Omnibot)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 01:12 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is quite simply one of the most amazing trip stories Ive ever heard. Out of this world
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Blodwen_1 (Blodwen_1)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 02:01 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since SSRI can be "blood builders" I wonder if this or any MAOI's react similarly.
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Soma (Mikrotaster)
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"My disembodied conciousness split up and divided into an infinite multiverse of indescribable speed and intensity"

can't imagine the experience that prompted you to string these various words together.

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Hippie3 (Admin)
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been there,
done that.
it's a kinda universal breakthrough experience,
and one reason i suspect that we are all one.
hope it didn't scare/scar you too badly,
to truly live
one must truly feel.
pain is just the other end of pleasure,
suffering is just a part of life.
to love is to grieve.
but love we must,
and so grieve we must as well.

how do you feel physically now ?
i always feel great after, for several days and even weeks, like i had taken a potion of vitality.



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Morella (Morella)
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Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 12:18 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is it astral travel?
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Leprachaun (Leprachaun)
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Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 12:33 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a very intense trip which was so painful it brought tears to my eyes and I genuinely feared for my sanity. Yet the next day I felt totally fine and grounded. I also had a new appreciation for the easy pace of normal reality compared to the mental chaos I experienced the night before. I love the ayahuasca afterglow. It seems that no matter how intense or uncomfortable the trip, you always feel great the next day, or for several days. I'm dying to get back to brewing again.

I had the insight that we are all one being too. God gets bored being whole and in paradise, so he divides into individuals who lead lives of suffering. When these individuals (us) grow in conciousness to realise they are actually part of god, and finally that they ARE god, this makes the bliss of that knowledge more joyous. The suffering makes the joy more intense and appreciated. Something like that. The pleasure is in the growth of conciousness. You need to suffer in order to appreciate bliss.

We think we are all discrete individuals, but us and everything collectively are God. Our goal in life is to increase our conciousnesses until we KNOW we are God. It is a joyous journey of discovery that keeps getting repeated over and over in time, wholeness to fragmentation and back again.

This is as clear as I can explain my views at the moment. Sex seems to play an integral role in it all. My trips are usually quite erotic. I got the impression that if the whole world had one big orgy, it would bring us into a new dimension. Maybe.
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Redmonk (Redmonk)
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Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 01:44 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Quote: "I had the insight that we are all one being too. God gets bored being whole and in paradise, so he divides into individuals who lead lives of suffering."
Leprachaun : This is the impression that I get also . The implications are staggering . This means that we are one infinitely gigantic being whose individual parts are communicating with one another . I also feel that we may already be in paradise / nirvana but have fallen into a deep sleep and have come to believe otherwise .
As a matter of fact , I did blow some tobacco smoke around the room just before the big surge . I think you're on to something here !
Hippie : It's exactly as you've always maintained....I feel revitalized , restored , rebuilt and ready to go ! This Ayahuaska is really something else !
However.....I wouldn't take that high of dose again unless I was in the presence of an experienced curandero . In a panic situation , he might be able to steer you out of it with the singing of his icaros . If my wife would have heard my screams , it would've been a trip to the hospital for sure .
That being said- on to the greater mystery ! -peace and love-
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Leprachaun (Leprachaun)
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I also had the amazing insight that THIS IS THE SPIRIT WORLD WE ARE IN NOW!!! Somehow we have THOUGHT ourselves into this crappy world where horrible things happen and we are powerless. Our world is created by thinking. You mentioned speech becoming matter. Thoughts become matter. We are all in this shitty world due to thinking incorrectly. We think we will get sick, grow old and die, and our thoughts cause these things to happen.

I had many insights about Jesus (don't laugh). I understood what he meant when he said "Ye of little faith" and "You could move mountains if only you had faith". It is all about belief and faith. If you believe 100% that you can fly, then you will be able to fly, for example. This "faith" must go right down to the root of your subconcious being in order to be effective.

Another insight is that REALITY IS TOTALLY MALLEABLE. Anything is possible. Unfortunately we don't have supernatural powers because we THINK we don't have them. We have to shed our old subconcious thinking habits in order to gain supernatural powers. I believe ayahuasca is the key to shedding our self-limiting thinking habits in order to mould reality whatever way we want, simply by the power of the will.

I realised that there are certain archaeological items in existence that were created by thought. They are too well crafted for their time to have been made by primitive tools. They were moulded by thought.

Supernatural powers were very common in the past because people BELIEVED in their existence and BELIEVED they could be acquired.
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Leprachaun (Leprachaun)
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I also had a vague insight into the purpose of the bland shaman's diet. Rich fatty/sweet food "grounds" the body and hence the spirit. It weighs you down into normal reality and also your old limited ways of thinking. It makes you focus on your physical body and physical reality.

The bland diet, or fasting, frees the mind from normal physical reality and allows the insights gained from tripping to be integrated more deeply, instead of nearly forgotten after your first post-trip meal. The diet/fast is almost a trip in itself. It gives insights more time to sink in, and therefore allows you to get the very most from your trips. Sexual segregation and isolation and sensory deprivation would all have a similar effect too.
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Redmonk (Redmonk)
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Your observations are very intriging . Sometimes ( from a hyperspatial viewpoint ) I get the impression that as the "vibrational field" begins to slow down , it begins to manifest as "matter", on this plane . I like the model of the "continuum" . As the entheogen begins to kick in , the veils separating us from different areas of the continuum begin to disappear and , somewhat miraculously , one can not only observe , but fan out into it......on the wings of pure thought . Holographically expanded , inner and outer space become a single thing . The ultimate complexity , and mystery , of it all certainly seems able to at least provoke a state of awe , and at best.....inspire profound religious vision .

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Leprachaun (Leprachaun)
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I need to drink a lot more aya to clarify these "insights" and fully understand them. I get the impression it will take a LONG time.

As for the "continuum", I see normal reality as being just one area in the spirit world, and entheogens allow us to see into the other areas.

I see the creation of the physical world as thoughts starting deep in the collective unconcious of the universe and humans themselves, which eventually turn into matter.

These are all very rough ideas at the moment.
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Well, it is absolutely true that our thoughts and beliefs control the choices we make, and the way we live. If we truly believed that we could turn earth into the garden of eden, we could do it.

an insight I had when I was in purgatory. All time is present in this solitary moment. This moment is the moment. We must work to make every moment in life something worth living. Every minute we tell ourselves "some other time" is a minute that we throw away.
there's a fungus among us!
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Leprachaun and Hippy3...

Thanks for the good info in the archives regarding Ayahuasca. I have done it twice before but never brewed it myself. All I can say for the experiance is that now spell "Ayahuasca" with a capital "A". I do not care if people say I am nutts, but this stuff realy does have a "spirit". It is a powerfull "spirit". It also can be a demanding spirit that sometimes takes you where you need to go, rather than where you want to go.

Reality is in my own head, thought creates. If I believe it to be true than it is. I have tried hard to make this my only belief. LOL! It goes back to Leary's old "Any reality is an opinion"

I just wanted to thank you for the info, past and present, and I hope to be "brewing" soon...
"You have to go out of your mind to use your head"
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Thank you for sharing
"The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible."
- Albert Einstein
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We are all in this shitty world due to thinking incorrectly.
i disagree strongly.
we are here to learn,
to become heros.

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Roo (Roo)
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"We are all in this shitty world due to thinking incorrectly.
i disagree strongly.
we are here to learn,
to become heros."

I am saying the same thing. Learning is adding something to your reality, as is experiance. Perhaps the world is is so shitty becouse so many people are forced to live in such a narrow reality. It all comes down to learning and I agree with you. What I am saying is that most people are so caught up having to "survive" day to day they have no time to learn anything else. Some people have this holding them back and a narrow religious reality tunnel to deal with also. Reality is belief, which is thought. There are those that believe that "GOD" was born on earth 2000 years ago. If many people believe this than it becomes a collective reality. If they believe it, it is their reality. No one can prove anything to the contrary to them. I would never try! Nor would I ever demean or harm them.

If you and I looked at your wife and you said she was a real fox, and I said she was a dog, what is THE reality? You and I could roll around in the dust fighting for a thousand years and you THE reality would not change. Instead of a woman we could use religion, politics, or race. We could raze vast armies and fight it out for a thousand years and still not know what is reality. Thats why I have the "opinion" that the world is a shit hole becouse of thought. Thought is our reality.

I do not think human language has kept pace with human minds. English is one of the worst in philosphical and spiritual matters. Just like the example of you and I looking at the same woman. If you and I had a 100% accurate way of showing each other what our reality is, we could have spent them 1000 years doing something more constructive. You could show me the fox and I could show you the dog. Reality would be "just an opinion", would it not?
"You have to go out of your mind to use your head"
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Beauty (and everything else) is indeed in the mind of the beholder . Don't ever let anyone tell you to take off your "rose-colored" glasses and take a look at "reality" . They just want you to see through their dusty lenses . This isn't to be confused with trying to convince yourself that something is good , when it obviously isn't ......but if you can appreciate the beauty in something where others see only uglyness....all power to you ! The mystery of life holds many paradoxes . While you are watching a setting sun , someone on the other side of the planet is (at the same time) watching it set . You could both be arguing over the telephone about the opposing realities you are both seeing , but the reality is that you are both correct !
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Perhaps the world is is so shitty becouse so many people are forced to live in such a narrow reality.
i guess i just don't see the world in such negative terms any more.
i've made my peace with 'reality',
and accepted that whatever will be, will be.
so i don't see people as forced to live in a shitty world.
i see billions of souls of great potential working out their destiny in an eternal dance before the eyes of god.
so while he sees shit,
i see shrooms.
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"so while he sees shit,
i see shrooms."

I like that!!!!

"You have to go out of your mind to use your head"
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get yer butt back in chat roo :-)

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