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Patrick (Valence)
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 05:12 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dislike that taste of shrooms but I also dislike taking pills (especially 6 of them) but
I still prefer them to the taste. So I came up with a way to get 1 gram into each pill. I
actually got 1.3 grams into one pill but then I found that getting the dose that I like
( 3 grams) was difficult. So one gram it is. Heres how to do it.

Materials.

2x4 block of wood. (Any easy handling length)
11/32 drill bit
17/64 drill bit ( or any similar size)
5/32 drill bit
5/32 allen head
00 capsules
little spoon ( I use a folded piece of cigarette pack)
small funnel ( I dont use one but I wish I had one)
tape (masking preferable)
1 gram of powdered shrooms. ( It can have little pieces in it but not big. Make sure that it is mostly
powdered)

Take the capsule and pull it apart. Measure the length of the longer side of the pill and tape the
drill bit (11/32 size. I found that this is just barely bigger than the size of a 00 pill) around at that point.
This is so you can drill the hole in the 2x4 the exact length of the pill. Now.. drill the hole.
Then drill another hole for the other cap. ( also 11/32 size, it doesn't have to exactly the same length but do not make it shorter than the short side of the pill) Now drill a hole through the middle of the original hole all the way through to the bottom. Start with the long side first and stick the long side of the pill in it. Now fill it up using the little spoon and/or funnel. Use the drill bit (17/64 size, bottom side down)to pack it down. ( I found that 17/64 is small enough to pack it almost the whole way round without getting stuck on the sides of the pill. Also another word of caution, make sure that when you are packing it down that you do not catch the sides of the pill as it will bend it.)You do not have to pack it down to much, Just enough to compress it all the way down. Don't worry about splitting the case because the wood protects it. Then fill again and repeat untill it is at the top of the wood.(which should be at the top of the pill casing)
Should only take 3 times until the cap is full. You should have some of the original gram left. ( .2 grams to be exact) Take whats left and compact it down in the short casing. Should only fill it up half way. Now take the allen wrench and push it up through the hole on the short casing. Take the drill bit and even out the shroom powder. It should be packed down enough that you can turn it over and nothing comes out. Set it aside. Take the allen wrench and push out the other side of the pill. It should be even with the edge of the pill but if it is not you can scrap it off into the other side. Repack the short pill if you do this. Now here is the fun part. Wet you thumb and index finger ( with water or saliva) and moisten the sides near the top of the long side of the pill. Then combine them. The moisture will make them stick together. Set aside to dry.( it only takes a few seconds)


The setup may take a few minutes and even a few tries to get it right but once it is set up you can crank out a pill every minute with some practice ( once or twice). I didn't have my scale handy and I ground up some shrooms and packed the hell out of it and squeezed out 1.3 grams. Didn't take any longer to do but I just pushed harder. When I pushed I put all my weight into it. (210 lbs) It didn't split the casing but it gave it a nipple from the hole for the allen wrench. So don't be afraid to give it a little push.
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Vitti (Vitticeps)
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 11:32 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just out of curiosity, is that 1.3 grams after subtracting the weight of the empty capsule or including the weight of the capsule?
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Patrick (Valence)
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 12:45 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

after
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relic (Relic)
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 04:14 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that's not possible. must be moist. i pack the holy shit out 00 caps(sometimes split them) and get .5 gram per cap
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Hippie (Hippie)
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 05:50 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

me, too, relic.
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An guy (Boomer)
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 06:19 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Seems like he's packing really tight, and packing both ends, vs just the long end, and barely getting it back together, so he is licking the joint to keep it together?
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Patrick (Valence)
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 09:15 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok so I thoght that relic might have a point with the moisture even though the shrooms crumbled like "crackers". Maybe there was a little residual moisture that was weighting it down. So to make sure that all moisture was removed. I powdered 2 grams and then put them in the oven at 250 degrees for 30 minutes. ( I know they are wasted but all in the name of science) Then while still hot ( At least the pyrex container that I baked them in ) I immediatly packed them inside the oven so that they would not absorb any moisture from the air. You know what I found out. There was some moisture. I can only get .75 grams in the long side ( Just one side An Guy). So I had .1 grams of water content in the original pills. Doesn't seem very moist to me. As far as packing them tight. I guess I pack harder than holy shit (whatever that may be). And yes I do pack the other side a little. To get in that final .25 grams. I could do more if I wanted to but I just want 1 gram. As far as licking it. I never said to lick it or you would get the powder all over your tounge (kind of defeats the purpose of pills)As far as just barley getting them together. When I did a 1.5 gram pill (with 10% moisture so technically a 1.35 gram pill) I could barley get the pill together. They fit together just fine but I don't want to take the chance of them coming apart (which the probably wouldn't) inside the bottle and getting powder every where so I seal them. Now I can throw the against the concrete and they do not come apart. Just some extra piece of mind. Small price I think to be able to not have to take so many pills. But why don't you try it and see for yourself.
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relic (Relic)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 01:02 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

maybe a bad scale, i pack both ends too.
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Patrick (Valence)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 03:28 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

its not a bad scale. You must have drill bit set and a piece of 2x4. Take you five minutes to make it. Then you can stop wondering how I am wrong and enjoy the benifits of it.
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Patrick (Valence)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 03:28 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

its not a bad scale. You must have drill bit set and a piece of 2x4. Take you five minutes to make it. Then you can stop wondering how I am wrong and enjoy the benifits of it.
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koolaid (Koolaid)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 05:05 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why don't ya'll just buy one of those Cap-M-Quick gelcap packers? They make the job so much easier.
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Patrick (Valence)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 05:13 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How much can you fit in there with the cap-m-quick?
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relic (Relic)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 06:15 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that's what i have, a cap-m-quik. i dunno. i definately pack the hell out of them. sure you are using '00's? if you said .75 grams and they barely fit together, if at all, i may have accepted it w/o doubt. but 1.25 grams in an '00' is unheardof. i even weigh them in groups and do the math. i don't have a triple beam, i have a letter scale. but it is accurate enough. now if put a single capsule on the scale it may register over a gram, but if i put 20 capsules in, i'll get 10 grams. if i take 10 out, i get 5 grams. i dunno
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Patrick (Valence)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 06:39 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't think of anything else I can say to you to convince you. Obviously if you have a cap m quik then you use the pills regularly and it may or may not be benificial to you to be able to pack them in at a gram a piece. It works for me and really when you get down to it, as much as I want to share and help others as others have helped me, thats all that matters. But I abhor you to give it a shot before you say that it is impossible again. I use a pen scale that may not be the most expensive scale on the market but I have tested it against known weight (I barrowed a few gram test weights from work)and it was right on the money. I even tried weighting multiple pills at once and they all add up the same. Either with 1 pill or 6 pills (it only goes up to ten grams with half gram incraments)but all scales are the most accurate in the middle spectrum. Now I am going to sound like a broken record and say it again. Try it yourself. But I will say this. It has been fun debateing this with you No harsh feelings here whatever the outcome.
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jim brown (Shrhobbyist)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 06:44 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You said "I abhor you to..." I think you meant "I implore you to..." That's pretty funny.
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XUnkyHerbX (Notapplicable)
Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2001 - 07:11 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe they are '000' pills? I'm with relic, I pack them until they almost split and my record is .5
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Patrick (Valence)
Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2001 - 12:32 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, once again questioning maybe the last thing there is to question before nothing is left.
The brand is Lilly Empty Gelatin Capsules No. 00 ( Its is written in 4 different places). I had to get it from the pharmacy department from Walgreens. They were 12 bucks for 100 ( I know they were pricey but I was there and I didn't feel like going anywhere else) SO here I am trying more experiments to prove myself. So I tried to pack them by hand and press down as hard as I could with the drill bit. They spilt. I tried it againts the table. (The bottom of the pill on top of the table)They split. The key to this whole thing is that they can't split when inside the wood. You would have to make the wood give before this will happen and I am not that strong. ( Nor do I think that to many people are) The hole in the bottom for the allen wrench to pop out the pill is the only place that it can give and it does a little. It forms a nice nipple at the bottom but it doesn't break. One other thing that helps in packing it is the drill bit. Very sturdy unlike a pencil eraser. My exact packing technique is to push it down, Then role it around ( like stirring a pot) this compresses it against the side. If I did this with a pencil it would break. Then I push it down again. Some times it cakes against the drill bit and I have to scrap it off with my finger nails to get it off. Maybe I might try to pack them by hammering down on the drill bit. To see if I can actually split it out the bottom. Maybe I can get in 2 grams. J/K I think that they are about as packed as they would go. I would post pics but I don't think that it would prove anything because whos to say I don't have lead shavings in there. Betcha that would way a few grams.

by the way, Those 000 pills are horse size. I would hate to have to swallow one of those.