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Ken Moore (Putanero)
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 11:01 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Regular ziploc bags are known for allowing some oxygen in during long term storage.

I found an online source for Oxygen absorbant pouches in various sizes that some of you may have interest in for you mushroom storage needs.

http://sorbentsystems.com/order_O2.html

These guys also have dessicant pouches available which also may aid in storage.There is also a lot of dessicant info in the rest of their Dessicant overview section.

http://sorbentsystems.com/order_desiccants.html

More dessicant info

http://sorbentsystems.com/desiccants_overview.html

If one really wants to eliminate infusion of oxygen over time into their stored goodies they may want to check out the specially priced
10"X 15" DOUBLE Mylar pouches that when vacuum sealed should not let ANY Oxygen in and I would guess would have no use for the oxygen absorbing pouches when properly vacuumed sealed.These are silver and also takes care of any Light worries in storage.

http://sorbentsystems.com/promotion3.html

They also have a high grade home vac sealer in the $140 range that looks to be heads above those I have seen in stores and should be able to seal most bags unlike some who require special bags be used .

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/sinbosealer.html

They are also tossing some specials when you buy their sealer that lets you buy Oxygen absorbant packs,Oxygen indicators tabs?,and some kind of microwave driable dessicator boxes at half their listed price.They claim the dessicator boxes can be reused more than a thousand times

http://www.sorbentsystems.com/vsspecial.html.

I am not affiliated with this site.Just a Noob craving Fungi who has been pouring through the net.I'm just posting because all this seems it may be of use.

I also found another site that had a selection of Oxygen barrier bags including the one in the link below that you can seal past a ziploc for double seal protection and also very handy when you crack into your goodies.

http://www.associatedbag.com/product.asp?catalog%5 Fname=AssociatedBagCatalog&class=BGC&parent=BGC%5F 1105&category%5Fname=BS24&product%5Fid=185%2D130++ +++++++++++++++++++++

(You will have to copy and paste above link to your browser due to it's size)

These guys also have Poly gusseted bags that may work for myco bags(any input?)in various thicknesses and sizes at a hell of a discount over what I had paid when ordering mine a few days ago from an unnamed Myco supply site.

Below is just one example of their Gusseted poly bags.I am guessing that with Polyfil or Tyvek plus tape one could fashion a filter patch for gas exchange or put a small poly filled piece of pcv pipe at the unsealed end and vinyl tie it in securely like I saw posted by someone on this great site.

http://www.associatedbag.com/product.asp?catalog%5 Fname=AssociatedBagCatalog&class=BGC&parent=BGC%5F 1115%5FBL52&category%5Fname=OBL131&product%5Fid=64 %2D4%2D94+++++++++++++++++++++++&cookie%5Ftest=1

(You will have to copy and paste above link to your browser due to it's size)

I also found another site that has a special on a 1000 (YES ONE THOUSAND!) bag carton
8 x 4 x 16" 2 Mil Gusseted Poly Bags for only $23.00.That seems very cheap to me.They also carry lots of other bags too.

http://www.uline.com/ProductDetail.asp?model=S-654 8


Anyway I'm new here and just want to thank you all for allowing me access to your excellent knowledge base.


Putanero


SuperMario on Myco
http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=1589# articleID


(Message edited by Putanero on October 21, 2003)
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The AOC (Angryorangecat)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 05:26 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wonderful! Welcome.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 05:32 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thx for sharing.
we'll add these links to our archive material for posterity.
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xylem flow (Xylem)
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Post Number: 100
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 08:32 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi, lots of goodies! glad you could join us!
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Alien (Alien)
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 11:30 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very nice links. The 100 pack of dessicants is cheaper than what I been paying at foodsave.net

Thankie :-)
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Putanero (Putanero)
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Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 04:59 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the wellcome guys.

As for the bags,are Autoclavable bags poly bags?

If so how many mil thickness are usually used?

Would placing a hole,taping completely over a piece of Tyvec or bunched polyfil over this hole with several pinholes in the tape be a viable way to add microfitered air movement to these bags.?Any better suited methods?

What would be the suggested diameter of a piece of polyfill stuffed pvc conduit secured in the bag neck for adequate ventilation ?

Thanks for any help guys. As soon as my FOAF"s pc arrives he is ready to start.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 02:09 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the autoclavable bags are high density polypropylene [sp?], i think a minimum of 4 mil but don't quote me on that.
as to which is the better way to add air,
i'd go with the neck pipe over a patch,
i've had mixed results with patches so i think the neck filter would be more reliable.
the diameter need not be very large, an inch is plenty.
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Moose (Thidwick)
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Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 04:02 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Another storage method I may try would be the use of Argon gas to displace oxygen in a sealed container, like a tupperware. Helium would work as well, especially in an inverted jar.

If you know a friendly welder, or are one yourself, there's probably a bottle of argon or helium nearby. Squirting some argon gas into a container through a cracked lid would displace the O2, perhaps keeping freshies in their virginal state longer. It would probably be the ULTIMATE method to preserve drieds indefinitely, so long as they are genuinely crisp.

Would anyone be interested in this experiment, or is it too obscure? I'd be happy to give it a try.

(Message edited by thidwick on October 25, 2003)

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