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jared (Jared112)
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 09:15 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am growing PF 'shrooms everything PF TEK and I want to know that since I just have the jars sitting in the incubatore like this...
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Will this cause premature pinning before the cakes is fully covered with mycelium? or am I fine? If not I suppose that I can put them back into the box and put the box into the incubatore, but that would probably be a bad fire hazard. Is it ok or should I cover these little bitches up asap?
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Underground_Shaman (Shaman)
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2001 - 09:30 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

With the full pint jars, you could see some pinning before the cake is fully colonized. You could just wrap the glass in foil and it should prevent that.

Also, keep the lid holes covered. This should help.
Remember, too, that you need Oxygen to induce pinning. That's why the tape is removed at 50% colonization during incubation...to induce pinning invitro.

The scientist in me wants to do half and half, just to see if it does pin invitro before full colonization. But practically speaking, cover the jars with foil and prevent air exchange in the jar. This should give you healthy mycelial growth without premature pinning.

Hope this helps.

Peace,
Shaman
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An guy (Boomer)
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 02:02 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

::Raising hand::

Yuh- you can get pinning before complete colonization, I can attest to that....

But, it's not the end of the world, or ain't so far on my cake- I'll let you know what happens.

Exactly like Shaman said- I was getting pinning, had taken off the tape and flipped the jar. Cake wasn't fully colonized- one or two little pins.

But it was *moist* in there, and on the bigger pin, I could see the brown/brown striping that indicates more-than-needed moisture levels, so I unscrewed the jar from the cap, without taking the jar off the cap- just to get a little more airflow- started throwing pins right and left, and the cake wasn't fully done.

I birthed it last night, put some dampened verm in the microwave to sterilize it, and cased the top of the cake, where it wasn't colonized. Where it isn't colonized, it's more susceptible to contamination, which is why I wanted that spot covered, and why I wanted to mic both the verm and water that went on it. Since then I've dampened it with raw water, on the principle that it isn't going to mkae it clear down to that vulnerabvle spot, which by now might be colonized or not, I dont' know, but the upper particles of verm I'm thinking wil....anyways, I'll let you know what happens in case you're ever faced with the same thing...



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John Sparks (Sparks)
Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 07:47 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am fairly new to this growing and have yet to produce anything impressive. (Currently looking at 3 cakes with only 1 pinhead on each) but back to the question. I am planning on incubating my jars in a warm bath in my aquarium. I can maintain the temparture with a heater and keep the water temparature at any temp. Is there any tips, precautions or recommendations for this setup? I plan on only sitting them in water half way up the jars. Should not worry about this and just sit them in my closet, Thanks Sparks


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Nan (Nanook)
Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2001 - 08:42 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Water bath incubators are fine and keep the humidity up nice and high. It's a proven Tek. Use a strong salt solution (very messy) or periodicaly add a few drops of tincture of iodine to the water to control contams.

Dry type incubators can cause excessive drying in jars especially in cooler weather when the humdity and temps are low. People screw the lids on tight and cover the holes with non-porus tape (electrical type tape) to conserve the jar mositure.