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picndim (Picndim)
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Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:27 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The way I understand it is that the cubbies have to be layed down cauz they fruit on all surfaces
unlike the oyster that will fruit at the holes.
so the idea is to use some kind of container(laundery basket)
but what if one used a sack like a burlap sack or
plastic mesh(I prefer to try the burlap since I have a lot at my disposal)
I notice when I washed one in hot water the weave tighted up, and I'm guessing that the mycilum will grow truogh it.
but will it flush thruogh it?
I have some solutions to this I cuold wash the sack in cold water but I won't get good sanitization
or i could cut out some of the treads making it losser but this is laboruos.
Pros are the durlap could act as a caseing layer
and the logs could be hung up by the sack eliminating the need for shelves and saving space.
and I understand that plastic sould be used through colinizatiuon, to maturing pins.
This straw sack tek could also be used with oysters to achive biger yields.
ANY INPUT ON THIS????
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Mushroom Zen (Sno)
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Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:31 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not sure... but I'd say it'd work something like this



Taken from this thread:
http://archives.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/7747/4087 0.html?1068645909

Courtesy of Rodger Rabbi
-Zen
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Mushroom Zen (Sno)
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Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:32 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rodger Rabbit that is...
-Zen
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picndim (Picndim)
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Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:36 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hahaha that pics is realy cool thou
is there rely refried beans in there?
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Yogi (Yogi)
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Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 11:28 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have thought for awhile that the burlap should work well. Try it and see!
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Highflyer (Highflyer)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 05:22 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some places grow shrooms commercially in sacks like you speak of. They just put the substrate in the bag, and then case the top. Fruiting occurs out of the open top of the bag.
"I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way." - Robert Frost
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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 06:17 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rodger "Rabbi" might be more appropriate...

<---- I love this little guy. "hey!"
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philnweird (Highroller)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 06:56 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Or it may look something like this.
Upload
Good idea imo. It will probably fruit right through the burlap, although plastic would harbor fewer contaminates. I've often though of using one of those nylon mesh hammocks for a large straw/dung grow. How about onion sacks or something like that?
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picndim (Picndim)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 08:47 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ya an onion sack sounds more like it
I'll probly try them both I'm sure one could get any amout of onion sacks for free at the grocery store if you just ask
I'm still going to try the burlap just cauz I got this mountian of them.

thanks for the input this is great info.
lets keep this tread gon'
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Mushroom Zen (Sno)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 11:03 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rodger Rabbi

Upload



HEY!


quick and dirty, but it works


-Zen
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philnweird (Highroller)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 12:04 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah pic. Let's keep this thread goin'. You gotta keep us updated on your progress.

Geez rodg, I don't know if I'd like a pic of me posted here. Might be incriminating.


(Message edited by highroller on November 19, 2003)
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 12:38 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol
burlap, when wet, is subject to molds.
i'd use a sythetic fiber instead personally.
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picndim (Picndim)
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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 07:49 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But hippi wouldn't the lime durring pasteurization swing the ph to give the
mycilum a chance to colinize the straw?
and if not any ideas to keep the burlap from contam?
ps the sack that i wash on really hot loosened up and it doent seam that tight any more and i also discovered there other ones more loose to start with.
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picndim (Picndim)
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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 07:56 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh ya and just let you all know that I'm not planning to try this for a few more months cauz the wheather has started to get realy cold here.
i'm just gon' to keep my spawn room heated truoght the winter.I'l proddly just keep at the agar work and spawn run from grain to grain.
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Zoomer (Zoomer)
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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 07:59 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You might try those little zip-up laundry bags that women use for "delicates' ie, hose, bras etc.The hole are a nice size, has a zipper, and is nylon. Probably easier to sterilize too. I'm not advanced enough to really understand what you guys are doing, but I understand the concept, and that just popped into my head.
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psycho naut (Xochipilli2012)
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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 07:46 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've heard of people growing cubies in burlap sacks inside barns.

supposedly they hang them let them colinize and they start to pop out of everyside.this is supossedly done in oregon where the weather is nice and moist.

just what I heard.

but like visions said more air =less contams.

maybe thats how they got the mycelium to overgrow the contams.

but sounds like it would work.

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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 09:26 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

visions had another great idea that works well, i know because i tried it.
and that was growing inside fancy micro-filtered pillowcases. zipper, lets air in but keeps microbes out, stuff it with straw and spawn. see archives, use search function, for more info on his pillow case method.
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picndim (Picndim)
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 11:43 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think Ive seen the subject title too that
-tanks ill check it out.

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