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serialkiller1 (Serialkiller1)
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2001 - 06:46 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i noticed some blue spots on top of one of my cakes. and was wondering if it is contaminated. i also noticed some grey and green spots on another cake. is it possible to cut the cakes in half ( i have pint cakes) and dunk the cakes. or just start over. all of the spots are on the top of the cakes or near the top.
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Hippie (Hippie)
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2001 - 07:00 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

pics are really helpful in these kinds of situations.
blue is usually ok, maybe even grey or green tints.
but then green can also mean disaster.
the first thing to do is to test the suspect spot.
spray a little water on it,
does the color run or wash off ?
if yes, then it's mold.
if not, then it's prolly just bruised flesh.
do this test first, and let us know b4 proceding.
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serialkiller1 (Serialkiller1)
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2001 - 07:09 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

here are the pics.contam1contam2
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Nan (Nanook)
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2001 - 07:26 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can't tell. Do the contam test with water and a gentle rubbing with a clean finger. I suspect it is normal discoloration.

Double-end case???
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Hippie (Hippie)
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2001 - 08:06 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

agreed, they look ok, but still test them.
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serialkiller1 (Serialkiller1)
Posted on Friday, November 16, 2001 - 08:18 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i sprayed a little water on the spots and rubbed them with my finger. the spots just got darker. what does that mean?
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Liberty_Caps (Liberty_Caps)
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 05:30 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well In my experince once u see green fuzz throw them,, whenever I see it and leave it for awhile it usally spreads to all my cakes..
the only contam problem I have is my cakes turn blue in some spots then the next day they have green shit on them I had to throw 3 cakes today because of this shit!!!
well good luck
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Mike Damarius (Catcher84)
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 08:11 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the spot got darker its probably not contamination. You probably just brused the cake.
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Hippie (Hippie)
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 12:39 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah, they sound ok, just bruised tissue.
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Cragith Kilbonith (Kilborn)
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 05:28 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

after that flush would u guys suggest him to break up the cake and do a hongus casing? to be on the safe side? it looks kinda odd, never seen that before.
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serialkiller1 (Serialkiller1)
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 06:54 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what is the hongus casing?
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Nan (Nanook)
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 08:28 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hongus Casing Tek
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serialkiller1 (Serialkiller1)
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 10:47 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

some of the spots are a dark blue or black color. i did the test but the color did not run or go away. it just got darker. are they still ok? the green spots got darker also. i am thinking about getting rid of them. am i just being paranoid or are my concerns justified. i am going to put more pics up so you all can see them.
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serialkiller1 (Serialkiller1)
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 11:02 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

here are the pics!!151718
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Hippie (Hippie)
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2001 - 11:07 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

wait and see...nothing to panic on yet.
a few days will tell for sure,
as mold spreads fast, whereas bruising doesn't.
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Liberty_Caps (Liberty_Caps)
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 08:18 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well I have a quiestion on contam's I made a flat cake and its doing really good besids today I noticed some green fuzz on 1 side of the cake so I sterlized my knife and cut out the spot.
so my quiestion is how the hell do u fight back aganst this damn green fuzz/mold???

It attacked my innerreserve cakes to
I never had a problem with contams but in the last few weeks I've been getting my ass kicked
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Hippie (Hippie)
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 08:54 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sorry to say but by the time you see green mold, you're already pretty much screwed.
i'd pitch the bad ones, sterilize the terrarium, and start anew, if i were you.
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Lichen (Lichen)
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 08:59 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

unfortunately, once the green has a hold on your system, there's very little you can do, in my experience. It usually means it's time to start over, clean out your growth chamber, isolate suspected contaminated casings and cakes, and try again. Once the green gets going it's pretty hard to get rid of it.

On cakes, toss em.

On casings, try to isolate, cut out, and treat with limewater. The best way to fight the green is to keep constant watch and get it when it first appears. The problem is, when there is green present, there are usually spores from it somewhere else that you cannot see
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Lichen (Lichen)
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 - 09:00 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, Hippie's post crossed mine, in the time it took to type it out
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jim brown (Shrhobbyist)
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 05:10 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Serial, in some of your pictures it looks like your cakes are not completely colonized. Is this the case or is that some verm you put on the top (which would also be a "case" I suppose). In your pictures, however, it really appears to be an uncolonized area. If not completely colonized you are doomed to have contams. Also, the first picture of your 11/17 post looks pretty bad.
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serialkiller1 (Serialkiller1)
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2001 - 02:39 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

your right they are not fully colonized. i have 1 pint jars and made the mistake of taking them out when i saw the pins on the cakes. since then all the spots have gone away and is starting to pin again.