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Brad (Raze)
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 04:12 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was wondering if any of you could show me some examples (with pictures please, I'm not good at putting words into visuals) of different contraptions you've created for drying mushrooms.
Thanks.
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Hootie your Hootie (Trusthefungus)
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2001 - 07:49 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who posted something about non-toxic desiccants like that was unheard of? Aren't we all following the pf tek woodchuck manual? DAMP RID DAMP RID DAMP RID!!! Damp Rid is the shit. I'm not saying other things arent ok but ,it is as if Damp Rid made a desiccant FOR drying mushrooms. It's not powdery its like white fertilizer balls. Eazy to clean if spilled , RE-usable (heat in oven at 400F to dry out,they convienently 4get to tell you this on the box so you buy more.) and nice big grains so If there is an accident(Shrooms in a jar get mixed with desiccant) you don't have mushrooms with toxic powder on them which is uncleanable. Damp Rid is pure calcium chloride , so it is non-toxic and since its not that powdery, you would have a hard time breathing it anyway. 3 -4 dollars for a 48 oz box. (like oj carton).... I'm not saying theres anything wrong with other desiccants if you have success. I just ask you this. Damp Rid.... Why use anything else?One carton fills this tupp. with 1-2 inchesOne carton fills this tupp. with 1-2 inches
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relic (Relic)
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 06:03 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

imagine a smallish tupperware/storage box, say 12-16" x 16-20" x 6-8" with a tight fitting lid, a 2 or 3 inches of desiccant across the bottom, and some galv. 1/4" mesh w/ bent down edges a couple inches to keep the shrooms off the desiccant.

here's a couple pics of a desiccant box with damp rid in it.

dbox1dbox2

the best way to do it is to place the shrooms on a newspaper, grocery sack, etc, in front of a small fan for 24 hrs. or into a heatless dehydrator then put them into the desiccator box for another 48hrs or more to get bone dry. another tip if you use damp rid or the like is to shake it up occasionally and be sure to put plenty in the box, at least 2 inches.
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Brettiejams (Brettiejams)
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 06:07 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL... I use an identical makeshift bowl out of aluminum foil for my aborts
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XUnkyHerbX (Notapplicable)
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 08:20 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I use a rectangular tupperware, fill halfway with desiccant then put a napkin/papertowel over it and lay the shrooms on that.. works fine.
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SYDYSTYK (Addict)
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 10:20 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

heres ny chamber
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heres my desiccant from a crafts store
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but fan drying works best for me
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Lzmaryann (Lzmaryann)
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 10:41 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SYD: Is that desiccant Non-Toxic?
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SYDYSTYK (Addict)
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2001 - 10:49 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i dont know but i try not to breathe and i dont let the shrooms touch it, are there non toxic desiccants? oh well i fan dry now anyway
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Brad (Raze)
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 03:39 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Only fan dry? dont you toss it in a drying chamber after?
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Nan (Nanook)
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 07:14 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If he does not, he should... But each to his own.
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SYDYSTYK (Addict)
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 09:18 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

they fan dry to 100 %, i live in the desert
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Nan (Nanook)
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 09:56 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is no place on earth that gets an RH of 0%...

Except in a desiccator. Close is satisfactory for many people, but close is not good enough for long term storage.
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relic (Relic)
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 10:16 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

boomer, i've never been a big fan of slicing fruits before drying. they blue when sliced. what are other's thoughts on this? does it affect the potency?
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Lichen (Lichen)
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2001 - 03:59 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

no, slicing the shrooms won't hurt their potency. Sometimes with really big, very wet shrooms, it's a good idea to help them dry faster...
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Brad (Raze)
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 01:31 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Um... A lot of people dont use Damp rid cuz they cant find it. Like I've been told that all of Canada doesnt sell it. No one in my area knows what the hell it is.
So I'm hoping to find some silica gel, no luck on that yet.
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Lichen (Lichen)
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 01:57 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

look in a hobby shop...they sell it for drying flowers
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Nan (Nanook)
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 02:17 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Look for desiccating kitty litter in the pet store.
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An guy (Boomer)
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 03:21 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Petmate Crystal Fresh ultra-absorbent cat litter is what I bought- nothing to dry yet, only used some for my cats.

Silica gel turns out to be dusty as hell when you open the bag- I'm gonna be wearing a mask and have a mister handy when I open this next box- throw it in a colander, rinse the hell out of it, put it in the oven (I already did a little experiment- you can dry it back out) and only then use it.

$6.97 US for 4 pounds at Walmart.

There was another silica gel cat litter also, but it was scented. This stuff isn't. Does have it's own smell though, but that seems to go away after a few days. I'm gonna open, rinse and bake it soon, to get it aired out before I use it.

boomer
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XUnkyHerbX (Notapplicable)
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 06:16 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got my damp-rid from Home Depot.. $3 for a refill box.. I've used maybe a quarter of a box so-far.. just keep drying it out :) It was over by the paint section.. at least the refil boxes where (MUCH cheaper). At the end of an isle they sell a damp-rid bucket with damp rid, but we don't need the mechanism it comes with.. it cost $6 for half the amount of damp-rid, so i kept looking, and found the refill box.
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Mrt (Mrt)
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 02:46 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In Canada....you can find silica cat litter at wal-mart or pet stores. Works great and its cheap($7.00 for 4 lbs). Damp rid is a bitch to find up here for some reason
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Kaijan (Kaijan)
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 04:57 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

www.silicycle.com

ask them for silica gel for drying flowers.
say your into that hobby ;)

its cheap too.


kai.
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Kaijan (Kaijan)
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 04:58 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

its based in Quebec i believe.

enjoy,


kai.
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John lennon (Johnlennon)
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 05:36 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi
Finally I found silica gel at the garden store!!
I explained to the comis, its a product for drying flower, I paid 13,75Can
Thanks!!
PeAce And All YoU NeEd Is LovE
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Brad (Raze)
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2001 - 06:17 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is silica gel resuable?
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Kaijan (Kaijan)
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2001 - 06:36 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes. just bake it in the oven at 375 for an hour
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Liberty_Caps (Liberty_Caps)
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2001 - 10:26 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok I bought some damp-rid a few days ago and it's been working great, but I have a quiestion say I want to save my mushies, and I just put some desiccant into a half pint jar then a screen over that then STORE my mushis thier till I want to eat them??would that be the best way to store them??? ps. I herd freezing them was better, so well, I live in minnesota and its winter time now could I store them in the 1/2 pint jar with desiccant, out side where they would freeze and maby stay better longer???
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Lichen (Lichen)
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2001 - 10:45 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the very best way to store them is cracker-dry in a jar into which some co2 has been introduced. Optionally, just put them in a ziplock inside a jar and they'll last for years. You can also freeze them, and they'll last that much longer. Who knows how long they last? Nobody does.

Unless you plan to keep them for ten years, I wouldn't worry about how they're stored.
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Black Star (Mr_Bug)
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2001 - 11:50 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I use a special kind of cat litter as a desiccant called Crystal Clear Litter Pearls. I have found it at several different pet stores and it works great!
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Lichen (Lichen)
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2001 - 12:49 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks for that; I can't get desiccant here. But I can get cat litter.
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leedo (Leedo)
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2001 - 05:55 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i've been putting my latest babies in a shoebox w/ some damprid in the container it came in. i'm not sure if the damp rid is actually doing anything. how long would you guys guess til they're crispy? is the shoebox ok? or does it need to be airtight or what? i put them on the fan last time and in 2 days they were like rocks. thanks for the help.
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Patrick (Valence)
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2001 - 06:04 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Needs to be airtight so the dessicant doesn't absorb the moisture from the air, only the shrooms. check out the archives Drying/Storage
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Brettiejams (Brettiejams)
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2001 - 07:37 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You should fan-dry(1 day) before you put 'em in an air-tight dessicant chamber for best results, in my experience.
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Herman Manderchuck (Youenjoymyself)
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2001 - 08:23 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Squeeze the shrooms after being in the dessicant and they should be rock hard, real crispy,If not, leave em for longer but fan dry a day or 2 like Brettie said,, works great for me.....
Also i wouldnt use a shoe box, that card board witll deteriorate easily from the moisture collecting,,it will also suck in outside air and burn through your damp rid real quick.. Use your Madre's tupperware.. Something airtight.. Yaknowhamean????