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farmerlucky03 (Farmerlucky03)
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Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 04:54 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

where can i get one of the green houses from?
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who me? (Suckerfree)
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www.northerntool.com <-- for the greenhouse

hey hf, thanks for all your information, you are a great help. do you air out or fan out this greenhouse ever?
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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i've found them at k-mart and lowe's and wal-mart.
pretty common actually.
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Roc (Rochester)
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i just saw a couple at Big Lots for like 20.00 if ya have one close to ya.


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farmerlucky03 (Farmerlucky03)
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sweet. Has anyone tried the mini green house

The lil blue people won't leave me alone.
Do you see em?
Their dancing around my feet.
AAAAHHHHHHH
***Farmer is taken to the "Crazy House"***
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Kush (Mark ) (Masterkush)
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Why I came here...BRILL!!!!
All same exact same bits available locally too! :-)
Snap Crackle and Pot!
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Has anyone tried the mini green house
hmm, what are you talking about ?
many of us have used these or similar greenhouses, there are several archived threads on this subject.
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Eatyualive (Eatyualive)
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here is a closeup of the hummer rigged with stuff!Upload
Upload
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Eatyualive (Eatyualive)
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often times when you use pvc piping it is hard to adjust the air speed. this is why sometimes casings dry out. with the sewer hose the air speed of the hummer does not increase thus creating a humid environment!
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Rasilon (Rasilon)
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Wouldn't that expanding foam tend to trap contams, only to be hurled into the greenhouse when the humidifier comes on? Wouldn't fatter PVC work just as well as sewer hose?

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Roc (Rochester)
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Checkout these options http://archives.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/2583.ht ml
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interesting, eatyu.
looks quite similar to my old rig,
except i used liquid nail instead of polyurethane.
and a funnel to a smaller flex hose.
still alot alike, worked good, too.
thx for sharing.
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Marx2k (Marx2k)
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Where do you buy the greenhouse cheap like that? (metallic setup WITH plastic cover?)

Im in the middle of setting up my own but Im using a metallic shelving unit from Home Depot ($21) and gonna put together the plastic cover (plastic sheeting, $6, Home Depot and zipper material, $2 at a fabric store)
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www.northerntool.com <-- for the greenhouse
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Eatyualive (Eatyualive)
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Rasilion- no! foaf has used this setup for years with no contams!
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Nilla (Nilla)
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Whats better with these ultra or cool?
Eatyu,can you brief me on your theory of the flex hose?Are you saying the bends in it will slow the air flow?
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Nilla (Nilla)
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Anyone?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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often times when you use pvc piping it is hard to adjust the air speed. this is why sometimes casings dry out. with the sewer hose the air speed of the hummer does not increase thus creating a humid environment!
if i'm interpreting eatyu's statement correctly,
i think he's refering to the fact that if you try to force a given amount of air at a certain pressure thru a hose,
the smaller the hose,
the faster the air flow.
so a small hose would give a strong breeze that might over-dry a casing whereas a big fat hose would have a weaker breeze.
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Nilla (Nilla)
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I see.,thats possible.I thought maybe the stuff being more surface area and having the ridges in it may help to clloect the water droplets making for more humnidity when the air blows over its interior.
So can someone still tel me which ones better for this setup?
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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I thought maybe the stuff being more surface area and having the ridges in it may help to clloect the water droplets making for more humnidity when the air blows over its interior.
actually it is the reverse that would be true,
the more surface area in the tube,
the less humidity finally making it thru.

most folks report better long term results with a cool mist, ultrasonics do work well but are more prone to break down.
be sure to always used distilled or R/O water,
tap water kills either kind pretty fast.
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Roc (Rochester)
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I still prefer the Kaz Koolmist and I like the flex hose leading up and connecting to a pvc pipe w/holes for distribution.



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Roc (Rochester)
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Here's my last setup...
http://archives.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/29813.h tml?1058922712

http://archives.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/29905.html?1059005571


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Nilla (Nilla)
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Those plastic oven pans are a good idea.
Now are you just making one entry in your green house with the hose or are you running more of it through the green house with holes in it every foot or so like with Highflyers sonic setup?
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Roc (Rochester)
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I hate to lead ya to such shitty pics but here was my first cake chamber setup... notice the pvc pipe distribution. I am doing the same thing now in the rack setup.
http://archives.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/3058.ht ml?1003878205
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damn, roc,
you've been around here a long time.

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Roc (Rochester)
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Started out here many moons ago and as you can see I have stuck with ya through thick & thin!

I just wish I could have took ya up on the offer to be a mod here... maybe someday.


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just say 'when'.

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Highflyer (Highflyer)
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Casings drying out should be a non-issue if the setup is made similar to the description above.

I like the Reli-On ultrasonics because they have an adjustable humidity output. It makes getting humidity levels right alot easier. Havent had one break down yet. Always used distilled water in them.

Using one opening in the top of the greenhouse for humidity input will work fine. You dont have to do the PVC with holes idea.
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Roc (Rochester)
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My chamber is setting empty right now so I think I'll give Highflyers suggestion a try... maybe my luck with the earlier ultras was just bad luck.


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Hippie3 (Admin)
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my luck with the earlier ultras was just bad luck.
that's the only kind of 'luck' i ever have,
bad.

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Yogi (Yogi)
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Flyer, a question on incubation. If you are using trays with straw/poo, do you put them in the greenhouse immediately after spawning?Do you run the humidity during spawn or just during fruiting, and do you also cover them with foil till pins, or do you incubate the trays in a seperate area?
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i use the ghouse for both fruiting casings and incubating ones,
just cover the incubating ones with foil a few days until they've run thru the casing.
still keep humidity & temp set to fruit.
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I usually incubate in the greenhouses if there is open room. I dont have the greenhouse closed though. I open up the greenhouse door, and turn off the humidifier for that greenhouse.

To foil or not depends on what type of tray is used. If the trays have a plastic lid to cover it, then that is used. If not, foil is used.

Greenhouses are closed and humidity turned on at the time of casing. Lids/foil are also removed at this time.
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who me? (Suckerfree)
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quote:

I usually incubate in the greenhouses if there is open room. I dont have the greenhouse closed though. I open up the greenhouse door, and turn off the humidifier for that greenhouse.




why do you keep the door open? to let fresh air in so contam doesn't build up? just wondering.
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quote:

to let fresh air in




Yeah. No need to keep it sealed during this time. The lid/foil keep all the humidity needed in the trays.
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