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Maliki (Maliki)
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2002 - 05:31 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Im fairly new at this hobby but have learned much in the past couple of months.
But ive put together my own tek ,I like to refer to it as my speed tek for fast results. Basically how this goes is the same
way as the standard PF tek , the main differences in this tek are , the size jars used and the amount and type of inoculate used ,
as well as how the inoculation procedure is done.
Well the first difference is the jar size , It will be only the 4 ounce 1/4 pint Ball Jars , since these jars are half the size of the
standard pf tek jar they tend to colonize in literally half the time , with the normal inoculation . The jars are made with a 30cc
max fruit formula per pf tek just cut all ratios by half. Now the second difference is in the type and amount of inoculate used.
Its going to be a liquid inoculant preferably of cloned tissue for even faster results . And suspended in any one of the sugar
water teks around in here. Now for inoculation , Instead of using only 1/2cc per jar as might be thought because there half the
size , Use around 1.5cc per jar . Remember you already have plenty of liquid inoculant that you grew. Now for the next BIG
difference , when you inoculate the jar it should be LAYING on it's SIDE WITH THE HOLE FACING DOWN what your
looking to do is pool the inoculate out on the side of the jar and gently roll jar side to side , this helps spread the inoculate further
inside the jar . While depressing plunger it also helps to sweep the needle side to side inside the jar and even put the needle
towards the center . Now there handled just like you standard cake . Birth fruit yada yada yada. But this was all thought out to
make the flat cake teks, take a hell of allot less time. If you double your jar count you have the same amount of fruit body in
around half the time. And i would imagine that using a grain tek inside theses small jars would also work very well and probably
go allot faster but these would be done in around 4-5 days i would imagine and that's not bad.........

Any suggestions or comments Gladly welcomed
As we all learn when just one shares knowledge
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Maliki (Maliki)
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2002 - 07:27 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good bad or what anything please
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An guy (Boomer)
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2002 - 07:32 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That rolling sure has me interested- You've actually done this?

On the face of it, it sounds like genius, I'm gonna try it.

I would use less water in the inital mixture though, since you're adding that much moisture during innoculation. I'm gonna try it, and thanks mucho for the idea!
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Dr. Cubesis III (Newbieshroomer)
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2002 - 08:06 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey maliki :)

I read it, looks good.

But not really into " speed teks "
More into the " bulk " thing... :)

if ya need em in a hurry though, there it is :)
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hippie3 (Hippie)
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 01:32 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah, rolling the jars after juicing them is a good technique i've used b4.
thx for sharing.
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Maliki (Maliki)
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 05:55 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Doc depending on what bulk teks you use this still could be aplied to some of them. As in bulk flat cake's . Any how just my 2cents . And hippie the jars arent rolled after inoculation there rolled gently from side to side while moving needle side to side , this in combonation with the extra inoculant covers a huge area in comparison . The more area of the cake that is introduced to inoculant the less time for colonization because everything has much less distance to travel....
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hippie3 (Hippie)
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 02:50 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i understood you,
but i'm reluctant to move the needle around much for fear of breaching the vermiculite.
the inoculant will run everywhere anyway just from rolling the jars.
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Maliki (Maliki)
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 03:31 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can understand that thought line on disturbing the vermiculite. I do understand what its for but at one time it wasnt even used . My foaf was in a hurry a couple weeks ago and actualy forgot to put the verm layer on before steaming whops. Luckaly there where no problems with contams or anything , and yes i understand that had alot to do with luck , but ill also give credit to a very clean and carfull steaming and handling of the cakes. Ok so moving needle around inside jar isnt recomended.
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ggg (Ggg)
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 03:46 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have heard of using a severe angle when innoculating to allow for wider/deeper innoculation spots. I just saw my friend colonize FULL pints of substrate in 11 to 13 days using the honey tek. I guess thats about the same as a 1/4 pint in 4-5 days.
The pints I heard about were shot with 3-4 cc. of honey water in a 5 hole pattern. Left exposed to light 24/7 @ a moist 85-88 deg. and flipped at 35-50% colonization. They were NOT a strait BRF\verm mix. I thought this was fast.

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Maliki (Maliki)
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 06:04 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I tell ya id like to have a brainstorm here in this board on the fastest ways to make jars go and also the fastest ways to do flatcakes and bulk teks every body has got to have this little idea to make things move as fast as can posibly be. But its just an idea would be neat , and probably quit lengthy.
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Dr. Cubesis III (Newbieshroomer)
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2002 - 07:02 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maliki.

Yea, a brainstorm on hurrting things up would be nice... But things do move pretty fast as it is.

If you are doing " bulk " and have a lot going on,
you are already moving at a fast clip. My buddy harvests practically every day.

The brainstorm I want to see, is some of the bulk growers here comparing techniques.....

And I think Chronic is doing a great job of that as we speak :)
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Maliki (Maliki)
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 06:05 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ill keep my eyes pelled im working on the dificultes involved in steralizing an entire hay bail i think i have it figured out . A couple more days and ill post it. It would take my foaf just a few days to get the equipment to try it so we will see How it all goes posibly.