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bil and ted (Billted)
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 07:56 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was just wondering if it is good or bad to put a hepa filter in a grow room?

Would the moisture in the room mess it up and create contams. The input fans have hepa around them, would it be better just to make sure the source room they are pulling from has hepa filtered air?

hmm, and for anyone who has a grow room they go into: What are some precautions you take to make sure you dont introduce contams when working in there? Right now I pretty much spray a ton of lysol on me, is that enough? Should i get a space suit and a chem shower ;)

billy
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new_shroomin_guynyc (Jay)
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Username: Jay

Post Number: 340
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 08:50 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hepa filtered air would be better. Moisture in the air itself won't create contams however the moiture may carry some nasties or create a breeding ground for them. Using an Ionic air purifier in the room would be better. A friend uses one you can find here.
As for precautions it really depends on the type of work you are doing. Some methods can be very forgiving such as the PF Tek and Simple Popcorn Tek, while others can be a sure-fire failure if ur not careful enough, such as G2G transfers and culture work. Taking a shower and wearing fresh clothing before working with ur stuff helps. Your specific situation also dictates how careful you should be. Some people have immaculate environments like labs and can afford to be less careful than the home grower. A good rule of thumb is that overdoing it is better than under doing it. As you gain more experience you'll start to see what steps you can cut out for your methods. Good luck.
-Jay
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((DeLL TrOn)) (Nilla)
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Post Number: 354
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Monday, December 15, 2003 - 08:51 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All depends where you live,if have had contam outbrakes in you house where spores got everywhere.
Using a hepa in the room that your setup is in
is probually the way to go.
You dont need to take a bath in lysol but if your that noided im sure it wouldnt hurt;)
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Stephen L. Peele (Fmrc)
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Post Number: 107
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 03:40 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FMRC's Ion Generator handles 1,500 square feet of room. Cuts out .001 micron. No hepa can come close. All this for only $40.00. For more info, ask for the ION Flyer at [email protected]
slp/fmrc
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Post Number: 9361
Registered: 02-2001
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 06:52 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

misting the air with a very fine spray of bleach water is good at knocking down airborne contaminants.
nothing wrong with wearing surgical mask & garb,
take a bath then suit up for sterile work like a surgeon would, i get the masks, paper shoes, gowns and gloves at local medical/health supply stores.
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Natas (Nilla)
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Username: Nilla

Post Number: 374
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 11:05 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Hip,do you have any input on something like FMRC is talking about.I would like to keep contams down in a single room,what would be the best cheapest thing?
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jimmy jublanski (Zoomerhead)
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Post Number: 279
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 01:20 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

some guys here got of those ion generators..you were one wern't you hip? what's the verdict on em?
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Natas (Nilla)
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Username: Nilla

Post Number: 378
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 01:27 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yah,i read some old post thats why i was wondering...no verdict though.
Im thinking of buying one but would like to here about it first.
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psycho naut (Xochipilli2012)
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Username: Xochipilli2012

Post Number: 249
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 02:51 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got one.

and it works good.

I could see the stuff it gathers.

just don't use inside of flowhood or don't keep it close to were your making prints.

it draws contams to its base,so anything near it will also have contams stick to it.

I put it on my floor one night,and when I woke up it was covered in dirt(contams).and everything that was in an area about a foot or more around it had dirt on it.

so it works.I now put it at the entrance of the room so it gathers anything on the way in.
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Natas (Nilla)
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Username: Nilla

Post Number: 380
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 04:03 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I read somthing talking about hooking foil to the negetive wire so the dust will collect to that?
Does that apply to this unit?
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? ? ? (Killdannow)
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Username: Killdannow

Post Number: 7
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 04:23 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

youve been selling that ionizer for years now steven. what kind of effiency are we talkin about here , .001 micron @ what???
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? ? ? (Killdannow)
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Username: Killdannow

Post Number: 8
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 04:25 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this is terrible, i only have 7 posts?!?!?!?
and registered 10-2002 ? what happened , we lose all the info over here or something.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Username: Admin

Post Number: 9414
Registered: 02-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 04:32 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

we've seen a few other examples of corrupted post counts and registration dates,
but one needs to remember that the old version of discus that we were using didn't offer these stats, and apparently when we converted over to the new version some data got garbled.
another possible explanation could have involved old posts getting deleted over time and so not showing up on your count when the switch over came.
or it could just be that the new discus software is just plain buggy,
which it is.



(Message edited by admin on December 17, 2003)
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FarmerWop (Croppinsloppy)
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Username: Croppinsloppy

Post Number: 102
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 05:19 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think HEPA filtering your growroom is ok if you have a circulation system with a mixing box. FP also makes waterproof filters for environments with high rH
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nettek (Nettek999)
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Username: Nettek999

Post Number: 3
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 06:03 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I feel your pain Kill, my acct got wiped too
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Expert Contam Grower (Exprtcntamgrowr)
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Username: Exprtcntamgrowr

Post Number: 15
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 05:51 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does the FMRC's Ion Generator work in humid enviornments like a grow room, or is it only meant for a static air lab enviornment? And how many people are really filtering their grow room air with or without problems. I know that stamets doesn't really filter his grow room air anymore, they just wash the place down every day. Of course he also lives in a very rainy enviornment and I don't.
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philn (Hiroller)
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Username: Hiroller

Post Number: 9
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 07:16 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dunno about FMRC's ion generator's operating info, but negative ion emitters used in dry environments (clean rooms, spawn run rooms, weed ops) are very effective at removing particles from the air (and thus odor in weed ops). If one lets the body of an NIE touch the side of a plastic tent a negative charge is imparted to the tent/room which attracts the airborne particles making them even more effective. Someone feel free to correct me on that if I'm wrong.
If by growroom you mean the fruiting room, IMO cleanliness is not nearly a big a factor as it is in the clean room where the culture work is done. Filtering incoming air in the fruiting room to reduce airborne competitor spores is still a good idea as is keeping the room washed down. The "art" as I see it is to recreate-indoors- the same conditions found in nature that favor the healthly growth of fruitbodies. I've heard of people going in and out of their fruiting rooms several times a day in their street clothes to perform everyday maintenance like filling humidifiers, harvesting, patching casing, gawking and the like without ill effects to the cropping stage. Always wash hands however and avoid physical contact with the casing layer as much as possible. A good strategy is to do a complete teardown and cleaning every couple of months and do one's best to maintain it in the meantime.

Course, I could be wrong.......

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