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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 02:19 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This information was originally posted at the Shroomery here by Una.
Photos were edited by Mr. Millionaire for size and aesthetics.

Grafting cactus seedlings to Pereskiopsis

Because of their large surface area (the leaves) this species grows very fast. Pereskiopsis is a true cactus and not a succulent. Grafting cactus seedlings on succulents or Euphorbia's that (may or may not) look a lot like Pereskiopsis will not work.

We need:

A stock plant (Pereskiopsis), well watered and healthy
Cactus seedling (Lophophora in this case)
Very sharp scalpel (new blade or a razor)
Alcohol 85%
Forceps (or similar to move the scion in place)

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Here's the uprooted seedling, only two weeks old. It's so cute

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Clean the scalpel blade with alcohol and cut the top of the Pereskiopsis stem 1 cm under the top with a straight cut.

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Quickly cut the seedling in two. This will only work with a REALLY sharp blade. Here's the top and the bottom sticking to the blade.


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With the forceps slide the seedling of the blade onto the cut surface. Gently push it down a little to remove all air bubbles. No fixture is necesary.

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Immediately put the grafted plant in a high humdity environment. I find that grafts heal best in the light (no full sun of course)

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After two days the grafts have healed and can be removed from the high humidity environment.

3 Months old graft of peyote

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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 02:29 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

great thread, joe.
Una's a very smart fellow.

archive material
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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 02:36 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is where you can procure some Pereskiopsis
http://www.mesagarden.com/

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San Pedro grafted on Pereskiopsis after 1 1/2 month it's even pupping at the base

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Sea of Cacti

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"Ekam Sat Vipras Bahudda Vidante"
The One Truth is named by the wise in many ways.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 02:41 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that's amazing,
learned something new today.
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Ferry (Spacecake)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 06:32 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow !!! very COOL !
have you tried this yourself ?
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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 03:58 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*bump*

I want to keep this thread open as my girlfriend orders pereskiopsis. I'll post pics for her as she germs her own peyote seed, etc...
"Ekam Sat Vipras Bahudda Vidante"
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Magalix (Kristoffungii)
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Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 05:53 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice caespitosa graft!
Amazing work!
Man, i just have to wait for the spring and summer to start graft projects.
"Be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still"
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Voodoo (Voodoo)
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Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 11:27 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One thing to remember for attaining this kind of growth is that these plants are under 24 hour strong light. Thats a major reason for the increased speeds.
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 11:30 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ah, that a good point to keep in mind, kinda common sense too but still worth mentioning.
thx

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harry m stevens (Rockawayrooms)
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Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 11:47 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WOW that's just killer joe, i got a couple of q's i hope ya can answer !! about how many pete's can you graft on to one of those pereskiopsis? cause in some pictures it looks to be more than one or two?also, as it grows bigger will there be any type of probs with it falling off,because of the weight of it?i was gonna graft a few on to some pedro's until i saw this thread.think it's time to pay another visit to mesa.
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of dreams,telling myself it"s not as hard,hard as it seems;)l.zeppelin
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Sweetness (Sweetness)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 03:00 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Been looking for a supplier of pereskiopsis that ships year round, thanks Joe and Uma as well. Killer pics and tek. Nicely done!!!!
*And without a thought of the consequence
I gave in to my decadence* Pink Floyd
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Voodoo (Voodoo)
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Harry, thats one of the problems (if you can call it that LOL) of grafting to these. You MUST degraft at a certain point. The petes get so big your stock will start to bend from the weight. This cactus is a bit over a month old. Suckers grow like weeds.

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harry m stevens (Rockawayrooms)
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Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 03:39 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

damn you ain't shittin voodoo,i have about twenty l.w. seedlings to germ and if i was to graft them all, about how many pereskiopsis should i aquire. could i then just grow some " peres" out and use the cuttings to graft?,can you do that i mean reroot "peres"?this is all pretty new to me this grafting business,so sorry for all the q's but man i gotta tell ya i'm excited.i was gonna graft this litte fellow i recently picked up on to a pedro but i thought i'd do some more reading, i'm sure glad i did
her faced is cracked from smiling
all the tears she's been hidin
and she wonders pretty soon
everybody's gonna mellow!l zeppelin
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Voodoo (Voodoo)
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Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 03:50 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A shitload.

Yes.

Yes.

Not a problem I like to help.
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Voodoo (Voodoo)
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Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 03:51 am:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Clarification-

I meant to say that even if you only start with one pereskiopsis youll have more than enough after a couple months. lol
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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 03:52 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

24 hours of flouros or MH, lowered heat, and alot of watering. The lowered heat allows the plants to open their arioles (or the cacti equivalent) for daytime gas/moisture exchange which usually only occurs at night. They do best in NON-DESERT CONDITIONS.

When they get to be 5-6cm, replant them so they can build alkaloids.

I asked Una about the flouros and never got a response but am sure he mentioned them in a post as a suitable light source for growing cacti indoors, provided they are close to the plants.

Please correct me if any of this info doesn't jive. It all comes from Una's posts at the Shroomery.
"Ekam Sat Vipras Bahudda Vidante"
The One Truth is named by the wise in many ways.
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Voodoo (Voodoo)
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Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 10:32 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your right on. Im not sure about floros. Iv never used them for anything other than indoor poppy grows. I do know that low powered MH lights are not near enough for healthy cactus growth. There are special floros for growing, if I recall, that will work nicely but they are not your "normal" floros.
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Xochitl (Xochitl)
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Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 10:40 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

whoa - amazing work there!

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Joe Millionaire (Rotterdam_y2k)
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a 400 watt MH should do the trick for a 9 square foot area, you think vodoo?
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Voodoo (Voodoo)
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Youll be fine. Just pay close attention to the cactus. If they are getting red you need to move the light further away.
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harry m stevens (Rockawayrooms)
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 01:36 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks voodoo. i am gonna order some peres asap <soon>.and what about this 400MH joe?.are these the same light that's used to grow some smoke?reasons being, i"ve been thinking about aquiring one of those hydro grow kits,only getting a more powerful light .i was wondering if you can kill two birds with one stone,i dont have alot of space, so this would be ideal!!man,ya learn sumthin new here everyday!!
her faced is cracked from smiling
all the tears she's been hidin
and she wonders pretty soon
everybody's gonna mellow!l zeppelin
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Hippie3 (Admin)
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If they are getting red you need to move the light further away.
man,ya learn sumthin new here everyday!!
indeed.

what about this 400MH joe?.are these the same light that's used to grow some smoke?
yep.
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harry m stevens (Rockawayrooms)
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 02:24 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks hip,that cleared up alot i can't wait to get started!!!!
b/t/w are the hydro systems on e/bay any good,or would i be better served going st8 to a reputable vendor?thx )

(Message edited by rockawayrooms on January 31, 2004)
her faced is cracked from smiling
all the tears she's been hidin
and she wonders pretty soon
everybody's gonna mellow!l zeppelin
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when i spend big bux,
i like a reputable 'local' vendor with a solid
warranty/guaranty policy.
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harry m stevens (Rockawayrooms)
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 06:03 pm:Edit Post Quote Text Delete Post Print Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i think i found one,thx hip
her faced is cracked from smiling
all the tears she's been hidin
and she wonders pretty soon
everybody's gonna mellow!l zeppelin

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