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#41 fahtster

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 02:24 AM

Cool thread! :popcorn:

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 04:04 AM

Thanks Jammer, I'm misting some but fanning much more.
The recent picture of the ape tub was when I first took off the black bag it was sealed up in for colonization.
I was amazed by frost and ice on the top. Absolutely beautiful!
All lightly padded off with paper towels now.
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Posted 10 February 2017 - 05:12 AM

IME with casing, the more even the colonization, the better and even the pinset will be usually. This is why I also patch during colonization. What I normally do is check the surface after a day or two after the casing run, and lightly dust the areas of growth that show up first, and repeat everyday if necessary. This will insure the mycelium will be poking through the surface at the same time.

Pans will tolerate a light mist before the pin set if it looks dry. I wouldn't advise misting at all once the pin set is formed. Pans are finicky when it comes to too much water sitting on the fruit, at least indoors anyway. They will abort pretty darn quick from my experience with um. I once set a couple of trays that were knotting up in my green house and went away for a 3 day vacation and forgot to dail back my humidifier. When I came back, the casing layer was way too wet and I had abort city, many tiny black pins. I took them out, left them in open air for several hours, put them back in the green house that was dialed down properly, and they recovered and produced, but not as well as should have.

I usually see pan pins forming after 3-4 days after casing, but then again, I always consolidate before casing. With jammer's bag set up, he is getting so much FAE, he sees pinning before he applies the casing, which shows you that the more FAE the better, especially with pans.

Looking great so far!
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Posted 11 February 2017 - 01:46 AM

Yup, it's been cool watching these pan go from spores to agar followed by fully colonized grains. Watching my three trays colonizing my bulk and then followed by a thin layer of casing. Real cool...
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Posted 11 February 2017 - 05:47 AM

Yes it is cool! And soon enough it seems you will be joining the "pan nation" lol. Those babies are very nice to view.
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Posted 11 February 2017 - 08:51 AM

Thanks Peacefrog,
I hope these pan trays fruit...
It's been six days and now fruits so I'm beginning to wonder and my first p.e. tub has been cased now for 8 days and no pins.
I don't remember p.e.'s taking much longer but this is the first p.e. tub I have cased before.
It's cool, I have more p.e. spawn and a few different Pan spawn working.
I just knocked up 4 pan g., pf tek jars so I'm hoping for luck with this this as well.
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Posted 11 February 2017 - 09:02 AM

Would love to see what this looks like, please, working with Pans now as well.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 11:52 AM

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These are some of my recent pictures of my Pans.
Just cased again today also no signs of pinning.
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Also, I wanted to show another picture.
This is what most of my wbs>agar>Pan Trop look like.
This piece of agar was looking good and so I transfered a piece to this jar.
Need advice on this one please.
The inside of the jar has a thin dry film almost dusty looking covering the inside of the jar.
The grains almost have small white spots on them along with clumps of mycelium.
The grains do not smell like mushrooms but not foul at all.
Maybe a wood/earthy smell to it.
I don't know if it's the too mush gypsum I put in with the grains when I soak them or what it could be.
Anybody have this problem before?
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Posted 13 February 2017 - 12:08 PM

All I can add is that pans smell way different than cubes, sorta of a musty version if that makes sense. It also can resemble cobweb mycelium, gray and wispy IME.


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#50 Cigarsam

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 03:27 PM

Hello, just wanted to ask if it's normal for a p.e. tub that was cased and ready for fruiting 10 days ago to not show any signs of pinning?
I have fruited p.e.'s before I just never applied any casing.
Could this be a reason why I am only noticing the bulk and casing shrink?

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 05:03 PM

In another thread Cat said..........

 

 

Wait until you try and induce fruiting on the PE colony, that's when they slow down IME. :biggrin:

 

Steady as she goes then IMHO......................I never got to PE  or Pans myself....I went the way of the wood. Perhaps some day if climate change comes here I'll go tropical again.

 

 

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#52 Cigarsam

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:30 AM

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If you look closely you can see one pin poking through the casing.
Sweet!
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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:38 PM

Nicely done! I am willing to bet there will be many more pins to come for you, my friend.
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#54 Arathu

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:41 PM

I'm pretty sure if you look close you'll see more than one.................... :thumbs_up:


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:48 PM

Nice! Cute little bugger.
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Posted 15 February 2017 - 07:57 PM

Congrats, Cigar!  I know you have been trying to grow pans for a little bit.


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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:00 PM

Yes, congrats. Now you are one of us " the pan nation" lol.

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 09:58 PM

Nice! congrats... that's still more pans than I've ever grown. :thumbs_up:

 

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#59 Cigarsam

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 01:00 AM

Yes, indeed there are a few more that have popped up through the casing. This is one of the ape tubs though. Sorry I didn't make that clear this morning before work.
I'm still working with those pan trays. I haven't seen anything yet but I am not losing hope.
Fanning as much as I can those pan trays and patched up more casing on a few spots too. They seem to be still working. Got my fingers crossed.
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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:50 AM

Well, APE is darn nice, too, lol.


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