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S.A.G.E x Sour Diesel, G13HPBSH in Dwc & Dirt


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#1 TheObserver

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 02:25 PM

Hey what's up? Just got some THSeeds Sage 'N Sour going at the moment. G13HP x Butterscotch Hawaiian x Banana OG Kush in hydro dwc. Picked up a King 25 cloner for $80 on Amazon. There's a couple Chem4 in the cloner I took off a flowering chem4 and they're rooting with the cloner pretty well reverting back to veg.

Made two lbs of Cannabudder trim I had left over from the last harvest of G13HPBSH.

I will keep this log updated as my primary grow journal. I've got some Grimms Bro Cinderella 99 I will be popping soon.

Nutes: botanicare Pure Blend Pro Grow 3-2-4
Pure Blend Pro Bloom 2-3-5, Pure Blend Pro Soil 1-4-5, Cal-Mag Plus.

Lighting: Two 600 watt Ushio Enhanced Performance HPS Lamp, 600-watt, Opti Red for flowering and a 400watt hortilux MH for vegging w/supplemental daylight 6500K spiral flouros in reflectors.

First picture is a G13HPBSH mother I'll put out in May after taking some more cuttings. She's in a 5gal smart pot.

A Kratom Rifat and Kratom Bumblebee plant in the last two photos. Thanks for checking my log journal. Much more to come. :)

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 02:38 PM

G13HPBSH in Dwc. They are really pushing out some roots in the dwc. Started clones in the King cloner and transferred to the dwc buckets about a week ago.

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 03:44 PM

Awesome to see another grow here.
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Posted 12 February 2017 - 04:50 PM

Very nice to see some of my own stuff in work too. Thanks for sharing the pics and looks like you are doing well with those indeed. Very nice looking stuff you have going there and sounds like you have the right kind of lighting to do them justice as well. Keep up the awesome good work bro!


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Posted 12 February 2017 - 08:14 PM

Ty Heirloom Spores.

Coop, your G13HPBSH is top shelf. I am very pleased with the smoke and the high. I love growing it. The smell and taste is excellent after curing in ball jars for a month. I'm making the rice Crispy treats tonight. Marshmallows, cannabudder, and rice crispy cereal. Keeping it original. Last batch I put Butterscotch chips in the rice crispy treats. My girl knows how to bake a perfect cookie. We made chocolate chip and they turned out great with the g13 butter. It's definitely a winner.
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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:59 AM

A few pics of the progress. In the grow room u have two Old Time Chem4 and a G13 flowering. Some shots of the roots using Z-7 2 part. Cannabudder and rice crispy treats made last night.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:27 AM

Good genitics, awsome healthy plants your off and running bro
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Posted 13 February 2017 - 10:56 AM

Thank you Hash_man, I don't have alot of space for veg so I'm going to find out which are female and male of the Sage n sour and cut the males. I'd like to breed a male with a female but eventually that'll happen. I'll put the dwc in flower as soon as they bush out more. They tended to stretch a but in flower. Might try lowering the lights so they don't stretch.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 01:01 PM

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" . . Might try lowering the lights so they don't stretch."


Are you able to start your 12-12 under the 6500k? unless that's what you meant

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 04:32 PM

I start the 12/12 cycle under the 600watt HPS lamps. I have them vegging under a 400watt hortilux lamp which is probably 6500k. All I had before to veg were 3 spiral daylight 6500K flourscents and I think that is why they stretched. Not enough light in veg so I picked up a fixture for hid lamps which hangs vertical. It came with a monster 25'cord that I plugged into my 400watt Lumatech ballast. The Sage n sour are loving the light. They're growing low and bushy. I always expect some stretch when I flip them under the HPS for flower 12/12.

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:33 AM

A few pictures of the Dwc G13 bushing out and growing fast. Transplanted two Chem4 and three g13 cuttings that were in the cloner. I'm impressed with how well the cloner works. I've had 80% success rate and I think putting the Olivia's rooting gel on the two chem4 rooted a few days faster than the g13. Using only plain water in the cloner and they needed some nutrients because of yellowing leaves.

A couple shots of the Sage n sour in veg. I'll take two cuttings off each Sage x sour diesel to determine sex. Flushing the chem4 and g13 in flower so probably will cut it next week. Space in the veg tent is limited so I'll cull the males and clone off the best mother pheno.

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 06:23 PM

Hi Observer, nice grow. I have done DWC and it perform good, I really like waterfarms though.

I seen your cloner , is that an aerocloner? What do you get clone wise close to 100%. When you got time maybe you can tell us about that, cloning info would be of interest to a few of us. Do you use just plain water and what temp .
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Posted 22 February 2017 - 07:54 AM

Here's the G13 in Dwc 3rd week. Just changed nutes and water in the buckets last night. Three clones from the cloner of g13 that I put back in dirt to veg.

I'll do some cuttings tonight on the Sage n sour so I'll be posting my process and more pics. The cloner is a King 25 cloner and its definitely worth the money. I had pretty close to 90% success rate with just plain water. I'll probably put the Dwc on flower soon. They are pretty well dialed in. Using the enzyme cleaner which helps to keep the roots clean and then airstones in good condition.

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 02:08 PM

Got four S.A.G.E x Sour Diesel females out of ten regular seeds. So I cut the males to focus on cloning. Almost ready to put the dwc in the flower room.

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 11:28 PM

your plants look great!
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Posted 05 March 2017 - 01:49 AM

Good looking flowers.

 

I might add that Kratom plants bear a strong morphological resemblance to Avacado plants, both with their stalk and foliage.


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Posted 05 March 2017 - 06:09 AM

Very nice pics bro, loved seeing that!


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 02:01 PM

Been away from home for an unplanned road trip and got back to find my plants bone dry and wilting. The hydro dwc was still flourishing and they got pretty big. Flipped the dwc to flower last night. Took several cuttings from the Sage n sour so I put those into flower. Took a couple cuttings off each S.A.G.E. x Sour Diesel and labeled plant markers s n s - A, B, C, D to know which is which pheno. I got 4 different female SnS.

My cloning process involves taking a cutting around the middle of the plant that has a couple sets of leaves. I use a razor knife to slice it off then stick it in a jar with water. I cut the stem at a 45° angle with the razor and scrape the outer layer of the stem and cut through the center of the stem to allow more area for the roots to grow. Some I did that to and some I didn't do anything other than dip the stem into Olivia's cloning gel. Then I'll stick the cutting in rock wool cubes and use scissors to cut some of the leaves in half. Took 10 cuttings in all last night and have a humidity dome on them bc I want to keep them in a high humidity environment while they convert their energy to grow roots. I've had super success doing cloning. If I have a few that die its probably bc I was lazy while I was doing the cuttings.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 02:28 PM

Observer great pics.Thanks for giving us step by step info on your cloning.
A lot of people want to improve their cloning, including me. I do get lazy.

Good luck getting some great phenos.

I wanted to try SAGE when I seen it out many years ago.
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Posted 09 March 2017 - 09:10 PM

Thanks Heirloom, I'd like to do a better step by step guide to cloning but I have limited access to the computer. Might make one up soon and post it here because I plan on taking cuttings from the G13 mom and then put her outside in May so she can run her course and flower.

I am looking forward to trying that Sage. It is a 70% Sativa so I think it'll be a nice psychedelic head high compared to the indica strains I've been running.

Tonight is trimming so I can jar up the stuff I have hanging. It dried slow and seems to improve the quality of the high. The G13 high from my last run was very sedative and clear.

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