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#21 Lakegal7

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:49 AM

Observer could you explain why you split the clone leave in half.
Are you keeping the one cutting in water instead of the rock whool
until it sprouts roots?

When you harvest your cannabus, do trim it and then let it dry
or do you let it hang un touched then trim and jar?

My first harvest, I let everything dry, then trimmed and jarred for curing, then
I read an article that recommended to trim before hanging to dry.
What are your thoughts on this?
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Posted 10 March 2017 - 02:13 AM

Awesome grow log. 

 

Olivia's always worked well for me. I recently stumbled across people using Aloe Vera to do their cloning too.

 

Lakegal7, There is nothing wrong with drying it before trimming it. It just becomes a lot more difficult to trim it after, especially if you are compulsive about it. I hate any and all leaves on my bud. Sometimes pre-trimming causes the buds to dry out too fast before the stems are even close to ready, which can be harder to fix in the curing process. Ambient drying area conditions will play a factor, as well as how large/small/dense the buds are.

 

Keep rocking TO


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 03:24 AM

Those look beautiful my friend! I came to find that if a clone is going to die it is usually because of a poor cut and they wilt in 8-24 hours. Most times if you take another cut and put them in the water they perk back up and make it just fine. I got damn near 100% on my clones. My method was to use a brand new razor blade, make a good 45 degree cut and dip them in root tone and put them into pre dampened pots of the same dirt they are going to be growin in so that they root right in the medium and take off sooner than if I wait and then transplant. Works like a charm, but sounds like you got your own thing going just as well. Two thumbs up on the grow bro!


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 08:06 AM

Morning! Grow room, SnS cuttings on the heat mat, G13HP in flower.

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:54 PM

Observer could you explain why you split the clone leave in half.
Are you keeping the one cutting in water instead of the rock wool?
until it sprouts roots?



Cutting the leaves lets the plant put more energy into starting roots and there is less leaf to perspire and retains moisture better and keeps them healthy. Cutting the fan leaves in half only. I don't cut smaller leaves.

As soon as I cut the branch off the main stem for the clone I want to take I'll put it in a jar with water to prevent an embolism which is air getting inside the stem causing it to rot and die. I think if you keep the cuttings in water before cutting the stem at a 45° angle it would be OK.

When you harvest your cannabus, do trim it and then let it dry
or do you let it hang un touched then trim and jar?



I prefer to trim it fresh right after I harvest. It is much easier and less of a pain in the ass bc the leaves are sticking out instead of curled down dried around the bud. But I didn't get around to trimming th e last harvest and they dried so I'm trimming it now.

Olivia's always worked well for me. I recently stumbled across people using Aloe Vera to do their cloning too.



Thanks mate0x, I would like to try the aloe Vera for cloning since the Olivia's is so expensive. But I don't clone a whole lot so it lasts awhile. It would be interesting to see a comparison between using Olivia's and aloe
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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:57 PM

Hey Coop, that sounds like it would work very well and you don't have to transplant or anything. Saves a step and saves $ from having to buy rock wool. I like rock wool cubes bc they give some support and the plastic around it retains water. There's more than a few ways to skin a cat. :)
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Posted 10 March 2017 - 11:05 PM

Thanks for answering my questions
Nice harvest!

Thanks MateOX and Coopdog for your input

It's true..you really do learn something new everyday
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Posted 17 March 2017 - 12:30 PM

G13 and Sage x Sour Diesel first week of flower. G13 stretched a bit after I flipped them. The root balls on the Dwc are big. I'm using Botanicare Pro Bloom for hydroponic and Cal-Mag. They seem to be doing well. The roots look healthy.

S.A.G.E x Sour Diesel cuttings are rooting now. They're all healthy and I took a couple off each SnS so I have a couple from each if one dies. But they might all survive.

A few pictures of the g13 in smart pots vegging underneath the 400watt mh. There you go. Not much to update so it will be a lot of pics. :)

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 12:52 PM

Looking very good brother. I used to like to trim fresh for convenience as well and did that until the last year or two I grew. Dad used to say to hang them upside down and let the leaves dry around the buds and it improved the smoke, well I thought I knew better and sort of laughed at him for going through all that hassel and mess when he went to manicure. Then one time I went to the ocean for a few days right as I cut, and I hung them just for the hell of it, and discovered that it really did make for a smoother smoke. I had read that the Chlorophyll in the leaves converts to simple sugars and feeds the buds longer as they dry and makes a difference. I did not really believe that but a side by side comparison showed a definite slant towards the ones that dried with the leaves on.

 

Totally subjective I suppose and the convenience of trimming fresh made it hard to go to carefully hand picking the dried leaves off of the buds even after that, but something to think about when you pull in your big outdoor plants this summer.

 

Peace man...


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Posted 17 March 2017 - 01:34 PM

Coopdog, that is interesting
I'm a novice and my first two or three plants that I harvested
I just hung up and then trimmed.
Then read that I should trim right after harvest.
I don't know if it was the strain or the harvest style
but they seemed to be a smoother smoke.
Do you now trim after they are dry like your dad encouraged?
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Posted 17 March 2017 - 05:47 PM

Hey Coop, I can definitely tell an improvement over the stuff I trimmed fresh. It makes sense and I sometimes don't get around to trimming right after I cut. So these three I just hung and let them dry. Two Chem4 and one G13 grown in dirt. I think the smoke is much smoother and the high is even stronger. You can see the resin glistening on the buds of the Chem4 which is a little darker without all the orange hairs like the G13. Both are top shelf smoke. I will probably just hang them and let them dry with the leaves wrapped around. It definitely preserves the flavor as well. I think it's just easier to trim when its fresh.
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Posted 18 March 2017 - 04:58 AM

I actually quit growing about 5 yrs ago. Just saying how I did it after a whole helluva lot of trial and error and mucking around lol :)


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Posted 18 March 2017 - 09:14 PM

Given the same environment, buds with leaves on them will dry more slowly and consistently. 

 

Drying slow, curing slow, makes the smoke better.


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Posted 24 March 2017 - 01:00 PM

G13 and Chem4 butter I made last night. Put about 1.5oz sugar trim in a cup of butter instead of the 3oz I usually put in bc I felt like I was overdoing it on the trim and wasting more than I should.

G13HP dwc flowering 2nd week. They really got bigger than I imagined. Tallest one is around 4'. The Sage 'N Sour is looking good. Going to be doing dwc with the SnS. All the SnS cuttings rooted in rock wool except for two.

Dropping some more seeds. Brothers Grimm Cinderella 99, some Pre 88 g13 keeper but they aren't popping bc they're old seeds. Dropped some Afghan Landrace seeds in paper towels too. So hopefully get a few that are viable.

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 06:36 PM

hows the kratom doing?



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Posted 28 March 2017 - 07:24 AM

hows the kratom doing?

One died. I'm not sure the other one will make it. The leaves just keep falling off and I think it needs a more humid warm environment than I can provide.
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Posted 28 March 2017 - 12:35 PM

G13 and S.A.G.E. x Sour Diesel flowering. Changed nutes in the buckets last night. Going to take some cuttings off the mom G13 and put her and the three g13 that are vegging in the tent. Last year I put them out a month or so late so hopefully they'll produce more this year.

The SnS cuttings all rooted except two and the remaining clones are greening up. That one with yellow leaves I'll probably cull since it doesn't seem to be happy.

Pictures of flowering plants 2nd week.

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 03:06 PM

 

hows the kratom doing?

One died. I'm not sure the other one will make it. The leaves just keep falling off and I think it needs a more humid warm environment than I can provide.

 

 

definitely needs 60%-70% RH for best rate of growth IME, most places in north america

have difficulty maintaining 45% during the winter.


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Posted 28 March 2017 - 05:37 PM

definitely needs 60%-70% RH for best rate of growth IME, most places in north america
have difficulty maintaining 45% during the winter.


Kcmoxtractor, yeah that's probably why it's been dropping leaves. I plan to put it in the greenhouse once I get one built. They also need nutrients, a breeze, and shade. I think I could accomplish those things in an outdoor greenhouse.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 09:01 AM

Checking pH, mixing nutes for plants vegging in tent. Three g13 and mom g13 vegging till I can put them outdoors. Transplanting cuttings.

Curing Chem4 in the tub and a close up. :)

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