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#1 Seeker2be

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 05:24 PM

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 06:15 PM

Please pass the gluten free matzos, thankyouverymuch.


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Posted 20 February 2017 - 07:04 PM

thank you for ruining my apetite


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Posted 20 February 2017 - 07:40 PM

I'm not clicking that link, but I mean a yeast is a yeast is a yeast right?



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Posted 20 February 2017 - 08:30 PM

Where's my sandwich and beer?
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Posted 20 February 2017 - 08:33 PM

Where's my sandwich and beer?

 

 

Have you checked all the nearest vaginas? Apparently it's all the rage.


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#7 Alder Logs

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 11:25 PM

If you catch it from her, you could have it on tap.


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Posted 20 February 2017 - 11:35 PM

They are advertising it all over just look for a cat hat...................................


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Posted 21 February 2017 - 05:31 PM

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#10 riseabovethought

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 10:49 AM

Do you mean we're eating infections?   :wacko: Wow.  Thats a horrible thought to behold (literally shivering in horror).  



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 11:19 AM

What causes a vaginal yeast infection?

Most yeast infections are caused by a type of yeast called Candida albicans.

A healthy vagina has many bacteria and a small number of yeast cells. The most common bacteria, Lactobacillus acidophilus, help keep other organisms-like the yeast-under control.

When something happens to change the balance of these organisms, yeast can grow too much and cause symptoms. Taking antibiotics sometimes causes this imbalance. The high estrogen levels caused by pregnancy or hormone therapy can also cause it. So can certain health problems, like diabetes or HIV infection.

 

 

Found here: http://www.webmd.com...opic-overview#1

 

Lactobacillus acidophilus is the bacteria used widely in yogurt


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#12 riseabovethought

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 01:24 PM

Here's what this guy said

The most important part of treating yeast overgrowth is avoiding sugar and other sweets and bread (simple and complex sugars; refined carbohydrates)


A dietary method that can help restore balance in the bowel is the intake of acidophilus – that is, milk bacteria, which is a healthy type of bacteria.

 

But lets keep in mind Acidophilus is a bacteria and Candida Albicans is a yeast.  The same yeast can be used to make bread and beer.  I dont think its a coincidence that in order to best combat the overgrowth of Candida Albicans yeast overgrowth infections, one should avoid sweets and bread-- which just so happens to be the favorite food of malicious microbes.  (Keep in mind its the same stuff that causes cavities- also causes inflammatory markers to skyrocket, immune system activation as if being invaded by a pathogen, and it then causes bloating from the gas that the overgrowth releases after eating its fill.  

 

Small Intestinal Bacteria Overgrowth/ SIBO is a primary causative factor in many digestive diseases; most notably Celiac disease, which is generally agreed to be caused by (gluten in) bread.  So, you see, it begins to look like more than just a specific organism causing the overgrowth, but rather what the organisms are given to feed on, which causes an imbalance in the environment (or in the soil- if you like the garden metaphor).  

 

There's also this guy, https://mycotopia.ne...c-inflammation/

who says we are all suffering from widespread low grade fungal infections caused by fungal mycotoxins in the grain- that is used to make bread and beer.  So, its all about the microbiome and science is telling us that we're full of (the wrong) shit.  Get ready for your fecal transplant! 

 

There Is No ‘Healthy’ Microbiome

 

 

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LONDON — IN the late 17th century, the Dutch naturalist Anton van Leeuwenhoek looked at his own dental plaque through a microscope and saw a world of tiny cells “very prettily a-moving.” He could not have predicted that a few centuries later, the trillions of microbes that share our lives — collectively known as the microbiome — would rank among the hottest areas of biology.

 

These microscopic partners help us by digesting our food, training our immune systems and crowding out other harmful microbes that could cause disease. In return, everything from the food we eat to the medicines we take can shape our microbial communities — with important implications for our health. Studies have found that changes in our microbiome accompany medical problems from obesity to diabetes to colon cancer.

 

As these correlations have unfurled, so has the hope that we might fix these ailments by shunting our bugs toward healthier states. The gigantic probiotics industry certainly wants you to think that, although there is little evidence that swallowing a few billion yogurt-borne bacteria has more than a small impact on the trillions in our guts. The booming genre of microbiome diet books — self-help manuals for the bacterial self — peddles a similar line, even though our knowledge of microbe-manipulating menus is still in its infancy.

 

This quest for a healthy microbiome has led some people to take measures that are far more extreme than simply spooning up yogurt. In September, the archaeology writer Jeff Leach used a turkey baster to infuse his guts with the feces of a Hadza tribesman from Tanzania. Doctors have carried out hundreds of fecal transplants, particularly to treat people with unshakable infections of the diarrhea-causing bacterium

Clostridium difficile. The procedure has been spectacularly successful, far more than antibiotics.

 

But Mr. Leach did not have C. difficile. He experimented on himself because he views the Western microbiome as “a hot microbial mess,” he wrote on his blog. Poor diets, antibiotics and overly sanitized environments have gentrified the Western gut, he wrote, “potentially dragging us closer to ill health.” The Hadza, with their traditional hunter-gatherer lifestyle, carry diverse microbial communities that are presumably closer to a healthier and disappearing ideal. Hence the stunt with the turkey baster. Mr. Leach billed it as “(re)becoming human.”

 

This reasoning is faulty. It romanticizes our relationships with our microbes, painting them as happy partnerships that were better off in the good old days. It also invokes an increasingly common trope: that there is a “normal” or “healthy” microbiome that one should aim for. There is not. The microbiome is complex, varied, ever changing and context-dependent — qualities that are the enemies of easy categorization.

 

“Healthy” microbes can easily turn rogue. Those in our guts are undoubtedly helpful, but if they cross the lining of the intestine and enter our bloodstream, they can trigger a debilitating immune response. The same microbes can be beneficial allies or dangerous threats, all for the difference of a few millimeters.

 

Conversely, “unhealthy” configurations of microbes can be normal, even necessary. Ruth E. Ley at Cornell University and colleagues demonstrated this in dramatic fashion when they found that microbiomes go through a huge upheaval by the third trimester of pregnancy. They end up looking like the microbiomes of people with metabolic syndrome — a disorder that involves obesity, high blood sugar and a higher risk of diabetes and heart disease. These communities might indicate someone on the verge of chronic disease — or merely motherhood. Packing fat and building up blood sugar makes sense when you are nourishing a growing fetus.

 

Here is another example. Common medical wisdom says that healthy vaginal microbiomes are dominated by the acid-making Lactobacillus group that creates an inhospitable environment for disease-causing microbes. But Larry J. Forney at the University of Idaho and colleagues found that a quarter of women didn’t fit this pattern, despite being perfectly healthy. They also showed that their vaginal communities can change dramatically and rapidly, even over a single day, flitting in and out of states that are supposedly conducive to disease, but with neither clear causes nor ill effects.

 

If you tried to determine a woman’s health by analyzing her vaginal microbes, the results would be hard to interpret and might be outdated by the time they arrived.

 

This befuddling complexity is not confined to the vagina. Earlier this year, Patrick D. Schloss at the University of Michigan analyzed microbes from 18 different body parts on 300 volunteers. They were all healthy, with nary a dental cavity among them. And yet, Dr. Schloss found that their microbes varied greatly, and flipped between different states, for as yet inexplicable reasons.

 

The dynamic nature of the microbiome partly explains the enthusiasm that surrounds it. If scientists identify changes in the human genome that increase the risk of disease, it is hard to rewrite those genes or to find drugs that target them. But the microbiome could theoretically be altered through probiotics, fecal transplants or other means. It is, as some researchers say, the only “organ” that can be replaced without surgery.

 

But how can you tell when it needs replacing? A bloom of C. difficile is an obvious problem, but most other communities are not so easily classified. The microbiome is a teeming collection of thousands of species, all constantly competing with one another, negotiating with their host, evolving, changing. While your genome is the same as it was last year, your microbiome has shifted since your last meal or sunrise.

 

We need to start thinking about it as an ecosystem, like a rain forest or grassland, with all the complexities that entails. And just as the gorillas and leopards of African forests differ from the wolves and moose of American ones, so, too, do microbiomes vary around the world.

 

Take the Hadza. Their microbial roll call is longer than a Western one, with both omissions and additions. They are the only adult humans thus far sequenced who are devoid of Bifidobacteria — a supposedly “healthy” group that accounts for up to 10 percent of the microbes in Western guts. But they do carry unexpectedly high levels of Treponema, a group that includes the cause of syphilis.

 

Is this menagerie worse than a Western one? Better? I suspect the answer is neither. It is simply theirs. It is adapted to the food they eat, the dirt they walk upon, the parasites that plague them. Our lifestyles are very different, and our microbes have probably adapted accordingly. Generations of bacteria can be measured in minutes; our genomes have had little time to adapt to modern life, but our microbiomes have had plenty.

 

It may be that a Hadza microbiome would work equally well in an American gut, but incompatibilities are also possible. The conquistadors proved as much. As they colonized South America, they brought with them European strains of Helicobacter pylori, a stomach bacterium that infrequently causes ulcers and stomach cancer, and these European strains also displaced native American ones. This legacy persists in Colombia, where some communities face a 25-fold higher risk of stomach cancer, most likely due to mismatches between their ancestral genomes and their H. pylori strains.

 

The microbiome is the sum of our experiences throughout our lives: the genes we inherited, the drugs we took, the food we ate, the hands we shook. It is unlikely to yield one-size-fits-all solutions to modern maladies.

 

We cling to the desire for simple panaceas that will bestow good health with minimal effort. But biology is rarely that charitable. So we need to learn how tweaking our diets, lifestyles and environments can nudge and shape the ecosystems in our bodies. And we need ways of regularly monitoring a person’s microbiome to understand how its members flicker over time, and whether certain communities are more steadfast than others.

 

Our microbes are truly part of us, and just as we are vast in our variety, so, too, are they. We must embrace this complexity if we hope to benefit from it.

https://www.nytimes....biome.html?_r=0


Edited by riseabovethought, 16 March 2017 - 01:38 PM.

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 04:04 PM

I don't think that beer will work ... C.Albicans, whilst it is a yeast, doesn't ferment sugar to alcohol. Unless it is supposed to be an alcohol free beer anyways ...

< oxymoron alert ;) >


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Posted 16 March 2017 - 09:42 PM

Where can a guy score some of that oxymoron shit?   I'd be up for some of that!


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 08:18 AM

I read about a girl making sourdough bread from cultures stemming from a vaginal yeast infection. It was actually a very detailed "diy" how-to of some sort. The finished bread honestly looked tasty but, I don't think I would ever consume it because of knowing where the yeast actually came from. I think the bread would actually be safe to eat (if you could stomach the idea of it), considering the temperature used to bake the bread.

There are tons of prevalent microorganisms that are far more dangerous to ingest than Candida albicans, as it is already flourishing in 40% of most healthy adults gastrointestinal tract anyways.

If you have ever ate Limburger cheese or even Blue cheese, you are pretty much eating the same bacteria (Brevibacterium linens) that resides on human skin and is responsible for foot odor and other types of body odor. That is why the cheese stinks of feet to high heaven!

Edited by OnyxObelisk, 03 April 2017 - 08:18 AM.

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#16 Arathu

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 09:16 AM

HOLY FUCK!

 

That is all............. :biggrin:

 

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#17 Cigarsam

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 09:50 AM

Bacterial vaginosis maybe?

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Posted 04 April 2017 - 10:33 PM

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Here is a really interesting minidocumentary on self made cheese with human bacteria.
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