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#1 Neptunechild

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 06:04 PM

Edit: It's a question, not a turtorial by the way :ph34r:

Namaste

Friend of mine just arrived back from a trip to Colombia and brought me Coca Tea.
The tea is made of plain coca leafs and nothing else. Already in portioned tea bags.

If one chews coca I know that you must do it with a little bit of chalk to active the alkoloids.
So I guess you need something basic (hope this is the proper way to write it in english) and not sour to activate the cocaine right?
 

So would it work if I mix my coca tea with chalk or charcoal and then simmer it gently for a couple of minutes?

And it that does not work, how can I make candy out of this? I know that in mexico there are candies made of coca and sugar and they are active....

Greetings and love to all

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Edited by Neptunechild, 02 March 2017 - 06:06 PM.

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 06:18 PM

I always heard lime, so maybe it's calcium or maybe it's pH. I'm just posting to see the responses. Hi neptune!

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 06:55 PM

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I habe (I leave that like that..I'm really stoned and I was writing a big text in german so I leave that habe instead of changing it to have) personally 0 experience with coca in anyway, but from all what I habe ( :) ) heard is that you need base not acid to activate the alkaloids...

Edit: Which is the reason why the fresh leaves are chewed with chalk I guess?


Edited by Neptunechild, 02 March 2017 - 06:55 PM.

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 07:10 PM

People chew it with a base because stomach acid tears apart the molecule (technically acid-catalyzed hydrolysis of the methyl-ester group). The chalk helps to buffer things and let your body absorb a bit more coke before it's destroyed. 

 

The fact that coke isn't really all that orally active is why people are still allowed to chew it and brew tea in countries where snorting it is a crime. It's just not nearly as strong. No matter how you do it, your body is going to destroy a lot of the coke.

 

A problem with using an alkaline in your tea is that it will prevent the cocaine from going into solution very well. Cocaine salts are way more soluble than freebase, and any alkaline you add to the mix is going to push things toward freebase.

 

I'd brew a nice lemon tea to form soluble cocaine citrate, and about 5 minutes before you drink your tea chew a bunch of antacids. 

 

But that's just a guess. I've never gotten my hands on any leaf before. 


Edited by Defiance, 02 March 2017 - 07:12 PM.

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 08:03 PM

You want calcium hydroxide commonly known as pickling lime. You can buy a big can of it for a couple dollars in the canning section of your grocery store. Careful because a little too much will burn the shit out of your mouth if you are chewing leaves.

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 08:36 PM

That's the traditional way.

 

I don't think people would chew on calcium hydroxide if cocaine didn't numb your mouth. At least then you won't feel them chemical burns.



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Posted 02 March 2017 - 09:45 PM

I have only dried fine cut leaves sold in tea bags, have 100 of them.

So the plan would be to simmer the tea with water and calcium hydroxide? Or add the calcium hydroxide after I leave the tea to cool down a little bit ?



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Posted 03 March 2017 - 05:06 AM

Pickling lime is used for coca and betel nut chewing. Very little is used so it doesn't burn. First time I tried it used little too much and blistered my mouth. It works though.

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Posted 03 March 2017 - 12:24 PM

Years ago there was much discussion of soaking tea bags in Bordeaux wine to form IIRC coca-ethylene. You'd drink the wine and skip the brewing of the tea. It was supposedly a better and more effective use of the actives in the bag.

 

I tried it several times and found it no different than simply brewing two bags instead of one.

 

Maybe just doubling the dose is a better solution than exposing your dentition to  strong or continued exposure to bases? The tea bags are available online and almost cheap.

 

Also, I found coca an unsatisfying form of perk. It would help you get off your ass and get things done, but not much, at least in small doses. At higher doses it was just a pushy form of perk and no more motivating than a single low dose. It may have its uses at 10,000 feet up in the Andes but seemed less useful than caffeine down here.


Edited by pharmer, 03 March 2017 - 12:34 PM.

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#10 JanSteen

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 03:25 PM

Sodium bicarbonate seems to work fine for me. Chewing leafs does tend to taste a bit fishy though, and I mean, like actual fish. It adds around 10% of the kick to the total, but really not that much at all. Except when you put a hand full of leafs in your chomper, then it tends to get a person pretty high.

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 09:01 AM

Namaste

So I took two teabags instead of one and voilĂ , my mouth turned a bit numb and a light uplifting mood was also noticable.

Doesn't taste really good so I'll pimp the tate up instead.

 

Thanks for all the input and new information

 

Peace



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#13 ItBeBasidia

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Posted 09 November 2021 - 07:43 PM

@psilyguy808 Did you happen to harvest seeds from those berries?
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#14 tregar

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Posted 11 November 2021 - 11:08 AM

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Out of print writings on the Divine Plant of the Incas, strong euphoria & psychedelic visions from coca leaf tea bags.
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Cocaethylene (coca leaf tea bags soaked in wine, the orally active & potent ingredient formed in the liver from cocaine + ethanol in the 1860's "Vin Mariani" wine popular with both Popes, Thomas Edison and scores of other famous people) increases the levels of serotonergic, noradrenergic, and dopaminergic neurotransmission in the brain by inhibiting the action of the serotonin transporter, norepinephrine transporter, and dopamine transporter. These pharmacological properties make cocaethylene a serotonin-norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor [SNDRI; also known as a "triple reuptake inhibitor"].
 
Cocaethylene has a higher affinity for the dopamine transporter than does cocaine, but has a lower affinity for the serotonin and norepinephrine transporters. In McCance-Katz et alia's 1993 study cocaethylene "produced greater subjective ratings of 'High' in comparison with administration of cocaine or alcohol alone."
 
Years ago, put 6 teabags in my mouth, adding some baking soda, activated the tea, painted an entire barn one afternoon, endless effortless energy, so long as kept adding some bags into cheeks every hour or so. Only thing is it makes the teeth turn green color, not attractive in western society. 
 
Yes, you can add coca leaf tea bags to a couple ounces of high alcohol wine (at least 18%) like sherry wine, let it soak a while, drink wine, can get very high, nice very strong euphoria. You can squeeze 2 to 3 bags into 2 ounces of wine, very pleasant strong euphoria for at least 1.5 hour. This coca tea wine can be combined with other psychedelics for an incredibly euphoric psychedelic trip.  :wub:
 
Coca tea is served at all the restaurants in Bolivia, very common there. I never got much of anything out of the 6 bag tea, but the bags placed in cheek with baking soda works quite well for clean energy and coca tea contains more vitamins and minerals than most anything else. 
 
There is a quote in the "coca leaf and cocaine papers" by Andrews and Solomon where guy way back when used to put  amounts of coca leaf (coca leaf tea bags will substitute) in his cheeks with baking soda, and did it all night long, he got incredibly high he quote said "*od is unjust in that he made man unable to sustain the effect of coca all life long". He has a chapter in the book, he got so freaking high, even to the point of psychedelic visions:

Page 38 "coca experiences" by Paola Mantegazza (1859) from "the coca leaf and cocaine papers":
An hour later I was sufficiently calm to write these words in a steady hand" "God is unjust because he made man incapable of sustaining the effect of coca all life long. I would rather have a life span of ten years with coca than one of 100000...(and here I had insered a line of zeros) centuries without coca."
 
Bad ass out of print book, 371 pages, all about the Divine plant of the Incas. 
 
You really have to read the chapter by Paola Mantegazza (page 38-43) on his coca tea in the cheek experiences, mind blowing. He took many drachm amounts of coca leaf and got high as all get out.  :biggrin:
 
Page 40:
The maximum dose of coca I have every chewed is eighteen drachms in a day, taking the last ten in the evening, one after the other. It was the only time that I fully experienced the delirium of coca intoxication, and I must confess that I found this pleasure by far superior to all other physical sensations previously known to me. 
 
Half an hour later I chewed two more drachms of the leaf, and my pulse rate increased immediately to 120. It was then that I started to have a sensation of extraordinary happiness; I dragged my feet as I walked and I distinctly felt my heart beating. I could not write except with great difficulty. 
 
By the end of the following 2 hours I felt extremely happy. My pulse rate remained at 120; I lay in the happiest sensation of a full and active life. A quarter of an hour after having taken the last two drachms I begun to shut my eyes involuntarily and the most splended and unexpected phantasmagoria started to flit before my eyes. 

 

Page 42, psychedelic visions from cheeks full of coca leaf with pinch of baking soda to activate, 3.8 gram = 1 drachme:

On another occasion, having chewed coca leaf after dinner, I began to hallucinate after the sixth drachme. This effect lasted for over 3 hours, in the course of which I chewed two more drachms. Although I was immersed in
a state of indescribable bliss, my consciousness was unimpaired and I was able to record some of the bizarre images that passed before my eyes swift as lightning. Here are a few; it should be kept in mind that for
each one I managed to transfer to paper...I missed ten on account of their rapid succession:
 
A cave of lace through the entrance of which can be seen, toward the back, a golden tortoise seated on a throne made of soap...
 
A battalion of steel pens fighting against an army of corkscrews...
 
Lightning, consisting of glass threads, piercing a whole Parmesan cheese crowned with ivy and berries...
 
A saffron inkwell from which is born an emerald mushrooms studded with rose fruits...
 
A ladder made of blotting paper lined with rattlesnakes from which several red rabbits with green ears come jumping down...
 
Plucked Chinese flowers with burning silver stamens...
 
Looms made of matchsticks upon which cicadas are weaving pine trees made of suphur...
 
On the day following this experiment I felt more vigorous than usual, in spite of the fact that the nigh I had only one hour's sleep. 

 

How to make the highly euphoric & psychedelic coca wine, last 2 pages of 2nd book, 5.0mg cocaine per tea bag soaked in wine converts to orally active more potent cocaethylene. More euphoric than cocaine and lasts twice to three times as long (longer than 45 minutes). 

 

Pic: Last 2 pages: attached out of print writings on how to make euphoric psychedelic coca wine, soak one to two coca leaf tea bags per each 1oz of wine, then drink wine

 

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Edited by tregar, 11 November 2021 - 02:47 PM.

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#15 tregar

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Posted 11 November 2021 - 07:02 PM

More info on coca leaf tea wine, page 15, post #286: https://www.dmt-nexu...ts&t=96861&p=15



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Posted 13 November 2021 - 08:55 AM

I remember when coca tea leaf boxes of 100 per box were sold on *mazon for cheap, along with 1 foot sections of bridgesii cactus, now you can't even buy any entheogens on *bay, only t-shirts or jewelry portraying the entheogen, just like Western man to turn it all into materialism.

Natural entheogens have been squashed by the pharmaceutical companies and teams of lawyers on all the sites while the Earth continues it's acceleration headfirst into climate crisis.

You can still order coca tea from Peru, it still has all the alkaloids, just have to use crypto. I still see some places carry a box of 100 for less than price of two movie tickets. Delisse is good stuff, it has all the alkaloids, use to buy it many years ago.
 

Wouldn't it be nice if we could let Peru and Bolivia sell the coca tea boxes in the states to legitimately make some money for their struggling economies? 
 
William Martindale, author of "The Extra Pharmacopoeia" seriously suggested that Englishman should drink coca tea rather than tea. 
 

Not a big fan of alcohol, so would stuff as many tea bags into a few oz of wine as could fit, let soak in fridge many hours, strain, drink, strong euphoric stuff for at least 1.5 hour, only used a few times many years ago, but remember those times as clear as a bell.

The median half-life of cocaethylene was 144.3 minutes (2.4 hours) whereas the median half-life of cocaine was 96.7 minutes (1.6 hours). Cocaethylene is orally potent at lower doses than cocaine (not orally potent) and was discovered to form in the liver in 1994. But the book mentioned above also lists a hosts of other active alkaloids in the coca leaf. There is a synergistic effect.


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Posted 15 November 2021 - 10:31 PM

I really like all this information
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Posted 19 November 2021 - 07:28 AM

I'm only suggesting coca-leaf-wine be used once every 2 weeks, if even that to "add onto the effects" of a psychedelic trip....to enhance the euphoria even more, to be used sparingly only once in a great while, this is how I trip once every 2 weeks below and I only trip twice a month, I work the entire weekend every other week. P.S. one of the places I saw that ships delisse coca tea cheaply also ships it discrete, and reviews report it still being received by people in the states & UK with no problems, and they ship receive guarantee.
 
 
In other words, I'm only suggesting this cocaethylene tea be used along with an LSD style trip or similar once in a great while if desired to add onto the effects of the trip. I'm a big fan of THH + LSD/LSD analogue style trips as they feel very much like mescaline, so if one wanted to, they could add in a shot of wine enhanced with many bags of coca leaf to up the euphoria up even more for many hours, not suggesting this coca wine tea be used more than twice a month. I"ve read reports of others using coca leaf to enhance psychedelic trips in the past to great effect.


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Posted 19 November 2021 - 08:04 AM

I'm a fan of poppies and mushrooms together but I'd be interested in a mushrooms and coca wine too!
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