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#1 ChimX

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 11:24 PM

I thought it would fun to experiment a little with the second flush of these MS/PE cakes. I'm running out of room, so I'm making a 3rd SGFC tomorrow. I've got more trays and cakes than space...Solution? Have fun with the multi-spore stuff and leave serious 'til the dominant sub-strains fruit.

I don't know if anyone's done anything similar so, if you know of a thread or tek implementing these procedures, please post a link. I'd love to see how it went!

My hope was to provide as much surface area as possible for fruiting on the cakes, while maximizing space in the SGFC.

PF Cake Kabobs:
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Materials:

1) SGFC with 1/4" holes, spaced 2" apart, covering the top, bottom and all 4 sides. 4 finger depth of perlite with 2 handfuls of salt mixed in. SGFC kept elevated 2 inches off any flat surface, via paperweights etc.

2) 2x Plastic covered wire coat hangers bent back into straight rods.

3) 2x Wine corks cut in half.

4) 6x Pre-dunked PF Cakes.

*This is the second flush of the cakes in the 'No Roll MS/PE' thread*

After harvest, the 6x MS/PE cakes were dunked for 16 hours. The SGFC was heavily sprayed with bleach and left to sit for 45 minutes. In the meantime, the wire coat hangers were bent back into straight rods which, when extended length wise across the SGFC, left an inch of wire protruding on both sides. The wires were put to soak in 70% Isopropyl Alcohol.

Next, two corks were cut in half, small lengthwise holes drilled in each, then placed in jars and set upside down in a bucket of bleach. The cakes were removed from their dunk and another bucket was prepped with a 1/200 bleach/water solution. The cakes were then flash dunked for 15 minutes.

The SGFC was rinsed thoroughly until the bleach smell was gone. Salt was added to the Perlite, and another cup of water to distribute the salt.

The cakes were removed from their bleach dunk, rinsed under tap water and set on paper towels. The wire rods were wiped with an alcohol rag and one was slowly inserted, from top down, into the first cake. The substrate, being moist, left no crumbling or breakage when impaled.

The cake was pushed up the rod slowly, and the process repeated for the second and third cakes. The rod was then inserted through a midsection hole in the SGFC. The cakes were pushed together in the middle, so that both rod ends could be installed.

3 more cakes were skewered with the second rod and placed in the SGFC in the same fashion. At this point the cork halves were removed from the bleach and given a quick rinse. All four cork stoppers were plugged onto the rod ends protruding from the sides of the SGFC.

Finally, the cakes were adjusted along the rods and exposed rod sections, between cakes, were cleansed of residue.

Though optimistic, I have absolutely no idea how this is going to turn out. The upside is that the cakes can be turned like a barbecue spit and then locked into position by pressing the corks against the SGFC walls. It facilitates cake inspection and possibly harvesting. The cakes, being snug, don't spin on the rods and, after drying and shrinking, I assume will solidify in place.

My concerns are that they may dry out more quickly, being further away from the perlite, and there's also a possibility of introducing contams into the core of the cake upon insertion of the rods. I would assume that recovery time for the cakes should be 24-48 hours, as the rods inserted are relatively small in diameter and introduced very gently.

I'd love to hear some feedback on this, even if you're convinced that the outcome might be less than optimal. Any suggestions on alterations and/or additions would be extremely welcome!

As you can see from the pics, there's no turning back now. So, regardless of outcome, I'll post results of failure, mediocrity, or (fingers crossed), fruits on sticks.

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(P.S. Worst case scenario, it's off to Sunset Myco-Hills Southside Arathu!)

Edited by ChimX, 17 March 2017 - 01:50 AM.

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Posted 17 March 2017 - 03:29 AM

I have never seen that before.  Makes me want a kabob, lol.

 

Interesting experiment.  I bet it turns out nice.


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 09:01 PM

I liked the idea ( eu gostei da ideia)

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 01:26 AM

It's definitely been talked about before... long, long time ago. I can't remember if it was something someone actually made a thread about or not.. probably be on the old site though... I'll take a look.. gonna bug me now. Lol

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 01:38 AM

Here's one.. doesn't look like anyone followed up. https://mycotopia.ne...wer#entry380828

Another one along the same lines of increasing the fruiting surface. https://mycotopia.ne...tubs/?hl=skewer

Nice to see ya givin' 'er a whirl :thumbs_up: love the corked ends too.. simple always seems to win. Nice one!

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Edited by fahtster, 21 March 2017 - 02:15 AM.

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Posted 21 March 2017 - 09:50 AM

 

Though optimistic, I have absolutely no idea how this is going to turn out.

 

The upside is that the cakes can be turned like a barbecue spit and then locked into position by pressing the corks against the SGFC walls. It facilitates cake inspection and possibly harvesting. The cakes, being snug, don't spin on the rods and, after drying and shrinking, I assume will solidify in place.

Of course not...that's what experiments are all about..........if we knew..........well, we'd already know................... :biggrin:

 

Might also prove helpful with dunks in between flushes too...........

 

With the right genetics, keep the RH very high and I suspect they will provide a WOW..................... :thumbs_up: 

 

Great job and experiment.........good 360 degree pinning vibes man...........

 

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 05:11 PM

I'm betting most of the pins will be on the upper surface of the cakes.

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 06:36 AM

TIGHT work I can't wait to see how this works out if it only pins on top or over the whole surface. If this works I AM IN!



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Posted 19 November 2017 - 07:05 AM

How did it turn out @ChimX ?

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 07:33 AM

Tuss Basilmo won POTM several years where he used tooth picks as legs to hold his.


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#11 PinkMenace

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 03:07 PM

I think it's on us to continue this experiment as ChimX is now an expired user.

Hopefully the kabobs didn't kill them.

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 03:09 PM

I'd do a group grow of this technique if enough people showed interest, just saying...

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 08:32 AM

Consider hooking up a battery to one of those skewers.


Edit: Ahh okay they're plastic coated.

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Posted 20 December 2017 - 01:42 PM

Im gonna make this my new goal ive been doing bulk for over 2 years now and havent touched a pf cake in forever
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Posted 20 December 2017 - 01:59 PM

Im gonna make this my new goal ive been doing bulk for over 2 years now and havent touched a pf cake in forever

 

How soon are you going to be attempting this? I was thinking of trying this out. I wont have jars free until 3-4 weeks from now, though. 



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Posted 20 December 2017 - 03:52 PM

I'm betting most of the pins will be on the upper surface of the cakes.

 

I agree but I cant help but wonder if slightly rotating the skewers daily would effect that at all. Maybe they would grow all the way around the cakes if you were to do this. the pins that were on the bottom would obviously probably grow funny but it might be worth a try if you notice them only pinning on the tops of the cakes.


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Posted 20 December 2017 - 04:25 PM

 

I'm betting most of the pins will be on the upper surface of the cakes.

 

I agree but I cant help but wonder if slightly rotating the skewers daily would effect that at all. Maybe they would grow all the way around the cakes if you were to do this. the pins that were on the bottom would obviously probably grow funny but it might be worth a try if you notice them only pinning on the tops of the cakes.

 

 

This might be of interest: Mushroom Gravitropism



#18 PinkMenace

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Posted 20 December 2017 - 04:26 PM

My thought is that this could raise it above the CO2 which would naturally settle, and perhaps exit holes towards the bottom of the fruiting chamber.



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Posted 20 December 2017 - 04:40 PM

Good read Pink. Thanks! I'm definitely interested in that group grow you were talking about as well. I just got my jars ready to try and colonize some more and I am going to try this for sure.


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Posted 20 December 2017 - 06:34 PM

I could even skewer a subset of the ones I just inoculated a few days ago, depending on when you two wanted to start.

 

Doctor Octopus (@DocOct), you in?

 

As a side note, do you read Squirrel Girl? She battles Doctor Octopus at one point with the power of Computer Science trivia.

 

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