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#1 Alder Logs

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 04:46 PM

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 05:19 PM

Do we have to crowd fund a paid vpn for you @alder?

I did enjoy his explanation of what vhs tapes though.

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#3 Alder Logs

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 07:25 PM

Okay, so I don't know how to stop my phucking fone company from selling my info.  I guess that's what they're aiming at.


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Posted 31 March 2017 - 08:22 PM

I don't like it but now I'm addicted to the internet. this is not the land of the free

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 09:22 PM

My local news station is reporting that AT%T , Comcast and Verizon has said that they will not be selling customers browsing history.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 10:43 PM

I wouldn't bet on CenturyLink.  Now I bet my totally crappy DSL gets even slower, since they get to watch everything I do here go thought their lines.  So, how doest that VPN thing protect me here?

 

Monopolies are the best thing ever.   Capitalism's end game.


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#7 August West

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 11:44 PM

My local news station is reporting that AT%T , Comcast and Verizon has said that they will not be selling customers browsing history.

AT&T. Mark Klein and I totally trust them.

 

 

Monopolies are the best thing ever.   Capitalism's end game.

 

Unless it's a strictly state monopoly. That'd be socialism's (and Communism to be sure) end game.


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#8 Alder Logs

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 11:53 PM

Here's the answer for when it's capital into the politicians' pockets, and the politicians into capital's pockets:

 

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 12:26 AM

thanks august, I went to Klein's site ,interesting.

I got century link and believe they will sell info. I will ckeck this out in the morning. I took 2 ambien and am acting weird, nice find august.

click on the site go to internet noise and it will obscure your browsing in a fog of fake history.


'I didn’t visit any of these web sites of my own volition—a website called Internet Noise did, all to obscure my real browsing habits in a fog of fake search history.


Internet Noise acts like a browser extension but is really just a website that auto-opens tabs based on random Google searches. Schultz isn’t a hacker but a concerned do-gooder trying to get Americans to understand how much their online privacy is at risk. “I cannot function in civil society in 2017 without an internet connection, and I have to go through an ISP to do that,” he says.

To counter that threat, Schultz wants to make it impossible for ISPs or anyone they’ve sold your data to accurately profile you. The vote yesterday implicitly legalized such tracking by explicitly rescinding rules against it. By muddying your online identity, advertisers can’t accurately target you, and authorities can’t accurately surveil you. To create noise that blocks your signal, Schultz googled “Top 4,000 nouns” and folded the list into his code. When you hit the “Make some noise” button on his site, it harnesses Google’s “I’m Feeling Lucky” button to search those phrases, then opens five tabs based on the results. Every ten seconds it does another search and opens up five more. Within minutes, my entire browser history was a jumble. Internet Noise will keep going until you hit the “STOP THE NOISE!” button. Schultz envisions you running this while you sleep
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Posted 01 April 2017 - 01:52 AM

Does the contents of your mind belong to you?

 

Or do other people have the right to pry your secrets from you, through coercion, lack of choice, or omission of the fact?

 

There is only one answer here.  Encroachment by a single inch toward surveillance is an insult, a violation, and according to the 4th amendment, illegal.

 

Your person, your identity, your business, your thoughts and everything reflected in them should only be known to those you choose to share them with.  Anyone taking these things without your permission is not your friend.  (Could you imagine a friend of yours setting up a camera in your bedroom?  Would you still consider them friendly?)  Why would you let a stranger do it?


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 06:26 AM

Does the contents of your mind belong to you?
 
Or do other people have the right to pry your secrets from you, through coercion, lack of choice, or omission of the fact?
 
There is only one answer here.  Encroachment by a single inch toward surveillance is an insult, a violation, and according to the 4th amendment, illegal.
 
Your person, your identity, your business, your thoughts and everything reflected in them should only be known to those you choose to share them with.  Anyone taking these things without your permission is not your friend.  (Could you imagine a friend of yours setting up a camera in your bedroom?  Would you still consider them friendly?)  Why would you let a stranger do it?


I seen this and thought of this Dr. on the news the other day. He is close to finding a way to download peoples brains onto a computer.
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Posted 01 April 2017 - 06:52 AM

If my friends set a camera up in my bedroom I'm certain they would likely NOT be my friends any more......................hahahahahahahahahahaha......................can you say SHOCK AND AWE.............hahahahaha god damn!

 

The answer............as much as we junkies hate to admit it (obviously I'm right here with you hopelessly addicted to YOU ALL by digital connectivity and they know it) need more see Facebook for the prime example of ultimate EVIL emotional exploits.................is ABSTINENCE

 

Sooner or later we're going to have to form little tribes and bail out on them completely................ I hope the nukes don't ever fly

 

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 07:16 AM

Translate the dollars in Alder's post above into what it really is..............HUMAN LIFETIME......money is a token.........now there is a pointer to EVIL........

 

Why we are continuing to traverse the paths created for us I cannot explain........I'm there too. I haven't completely moved my values yet....

 

And we don't believe that we're on the eve of destruction.............

 

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 11:13 AM

Most internet providers, when you first sign up with them, will send you a very discreet piece of mail(this is what centurylink did to me)....looks like junk mail....and its the decline form for them selling your info....you either fill it out, or call the number on it, and tell them you want to opt out of that program......So then, after opting out, if they sell your info, that should be a big fat lawsuit in your favor.....


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 11:19 AM

Most internet providers, when you first sign up with them, will send you a very discreet piece of mail(this is what centurylink did to me)....looks like junk mail....and its the decline form for them selling your info....you either fill it out, or call the number on it, and tell them you want to opt out of that program......So then, after opting out, if they sell your info, that should be a big fat lawsuit in your favor.....

 

 

That's some news we can use!



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Posted 01 April 2017 - 11:22 AM

nice find august.

Unfortunately, 99% of people have never heard of Mark Klein.

 

Or, for that matter, William Binney, Thomas Drake or Russ Tice - NSA whistleblowers who were at the very top of that food chain and preceded Mr. Snowden by up to several years. And, if he's legit, vindicate Snowden's decision to flee rather than have his life ruined the way, at least Drake's was.


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 03:17 PM

If my friends set a camera up in my bedroom I'm certain they would likely NOT be my friends any more......................hahahahahahahahahahaha......................can you say SHOCK AND AWE.............hahahahaha god damn!

 

The answer............as much as we junkies hate to admit it (obviously I'm right here with you hopelessly addicted to YOU ALL by digital connectivity and they know it) need more see Facebook for the prime example of ultimate EVIL emotional exploits.................is ABSTINENCE

 

Sooner or later we're going to have to form little tribes and bail out on them completely................ I hope the nukes don't ever fly

 

A

 

 

I disagree. At some point we have to stand up for ourselves. All too often in American culture we just say "Screw it, I'll go over here and avoid this mess."

 

Individualism is not the answer, Individualism is the source of our problems. The sooner we collectively take action the sooner the American government becomes our tool. I think the way forward is to maybe start a kickstarter campaign with a singular focus of removing money from politics. Once that gets solved, every other issue becomes way easier.

 

There is already a movement started for this its called wolf-pac.com Theres already a few states on board with it. Every issue is tied to money in politics, and we will make no progress until money is taken out. The strength of our corruption is tied to its love of money, its love of money can also be its undoing. Paying politicians to make an amendment to the constitution can be our way forward.


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#18 Alder Logs

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 03:51 PM

The collective will often be doomed to the one percent taking over as well.  This one percent I speak of is the one percent that are diagnosable as psychopaths.  These rise by playing the rest for suckers, and what prevents the best at it from succeeding?   So, like a broken record, I will point to each preventing their own corruption by watching out for our own bullshit stories and finding what's true in ourselves.  It's really all we can do.  Even if it fails to cure the political ails of the known world, our own experience cannot be hurt by our being the truth.   We will see it in the eyes of everyone else, once realized in ourselves.   I think they call it "love."


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Posted 11 April 2017 - 01:30 PM

I wouldn't bet on CenturyLink.  Now I bet my totally crappy DSL gets even slower, since they get to watch everything I do here go thought their lines.  So, how doest that VPN thing protect me here?

 

 

 

When set up properly, everything leaving your computer that's sent through your ISP (or received through it) would be encrypted, and there are apparently still encryption standards available that only the NSA can crack (and possibly not even them, but it's hard to say for sure).

 

I'm not sure how to do it yet (or rather, how to ensure that I'm doing it right), but a friend of mine is a genius coder from way back in the day who is almost done setting up his connection that way and will be tutoring me in how to do it once he does. It involves the combination of a VPN, TOR, and robust (128-bit or higher) encryption.

 

At that point, I would be able to choose where in the world my computer appears to be located (or just let it be random) and none of the encrypted data that my ISP captures would be usable for anything.

 

The "unintended consequences" of this fucked-up new law will likely include speeding up development of apps that automate this process and make it easy to do for the majority of users who lack the knowledge or inclination to do all the work themselves (like me!). The catch in using an app is being able to determine which apps can be trusted to be secure and which have more back-doors than a whorehouse that caters to politicians. Since I lack the technical ability to assess such, I'm leery of using ANY such prepackaged app which is why I've been holding out on setting up a VPN until I get that tutoring (since I trust my friend and his knowledge).

 

 

Once I get my own computer set up properly I'll be happy to post the details for others to use, and it'll be up to each individual to determine how much they trust the info I'll be providing since it'll be the same kind of info (as far as everyone else is concerned) that I'm very hesitant to trust (i.e., second-hand stuff posted on the 'Net). Getting our Internet privacy back (as much as is possible anyway) will probably incur an additional cost since good VPN's are not free, but it's better than no options at all.


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 05:00 PM

 

Okay, so I don't know how to stop my phucking fone company from selling my info.  I guess that's what they're aiming at.

 

You can start using a VPN, or Tor. I use Tor to login to this site. I'll grant you that it's slow, but the tradeoff of speed for anonymity is more than worth it.

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