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#21 jkdeth

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 09:28 AM

Well then I researched. It has been done. My phone doesn't let me post links, but you can search for it here and find some answers.

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 04:24 PM

Cubenis on newspaper

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Posted 10 April 2017 - 04:31 PM

 

I have a question:
I know that cubes can (indeed love) to dine out on pulped cardboard but as I was cleaning up my desk, I started throwing out lots of newspaper. So the question I have is:
Do cubes also get stuck into newspaper? I know the paper is deficient in lignin compared to cardboard, has anyone tried growing on paper... I know that breaking down lignin is a 'Fungal Forte', so if anyone has grown on paper, was there any obvious deficiencies in the way they grow, like they refused to fruit, or anything like that...

 

 

 

I did it several times as my illustrious compatriot @heirloom linked. Check out @hyph's puck tek for more reading: https://mycotopia.ne...ssed-substrate/


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Posted 12 April 2017 - 05:26 AM

OK, one of my jars is fully colonised. Now what? I've never done this b4 lol


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Posted 12 April 2017 - 07:03 AM

Let the jar co!noise for another 7 days.
Then all you do is take take the colonized cake out of the jar and wash it off using tap water or distilled water and soak the cake for 24 hours. No longer than that.
Roll the cake in verm and place it into a fruiting chamber and begin misting and fanning. ( dunk and roll)
Almost there.
Good luck
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Posted 13 April 2017 - 06:47 AM

Thanks :-)

Hope they're good.


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Posted 13 April 2017 - 03:48 PM

As everyone else has already stated, it takes time for the cakes to colonize. Once they've colonized fully around the sides and bottoms of your jars, you'll usually want to give them another week to fully consolidate, which means that the mycelium will finish colonizing the innards of the substrate.

 

After that, you can get ready to birth them.

 

This hobby really does require some level of patience, but it's well worth it.

 

I'm hoping to see positive updates on your progress.


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Posted 14 April 2017 - 04:45 AM

What sort of pressure cookers has every1 got? I was thinking of getting one, but cant decide if an old style jiggler thing would be better, or an electronic thingie: https://www.target.c...cooker/57444178



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Posted 14 April 2017 - 06:17 AM

https://www.gopresto...ss/SS_01755.pdf

 

This is one of the units I have..............she's my work horse

 

Presto 16 quart pressure canner............

 

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#30 jkdeth

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Posted 14 April 2017 - 07:11 AM

I currently don't own one but I've been around Presto canners all my life. I'll probably with the 23 quart when I do purchase.
We also had the smaller ones, don't remember what size they were, my Mom's generation and older used the small for cooking food, imagine that, lol.

I'm not familiar with the electronic ones, but personal I would avoid those, seems like just too many extra failure points, and like most of today's consumer industry it probably is only good for a few years.

If you consider a used one, make sure you do get the jigger thing, some of the very old ones are hard to get replacements for.
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#31 Arathu

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Posted 14 April 2017 - 04:40 PM

 

If you consider a used one, make sure you do get the jigger thing, some of the very old ones are hard to get replacements for.

IMHO......... I'd probably steer clear of used PC's for several reasons, parts, previous owners, and etc........

 

Just my opinion of course.........

 

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#32 jkdeth

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Posted 14 April 2017 - 04:59 PM

I wouldn't be to afraid of used ones, even so I agree that used ones aren't the best option, they can be dangerous, any signs of damage, pitting, etc would be a red flag for me.

If you've ever seen what can happen if they blow, it's not pretty, stoves destroyed,and ceiling above.

That being said the one I used to have was from the fifties, only reason I stopped using it was the weight was lost, and I couldn't replace it. I did try, but the "universal replacement" wasn't reliable.
The gasket was an issue as well, had to heat up before it would seal.
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Posted 14 April 2017 - 05:04 PM

I wouldn't think twice about buying a used AA pc as long as it's not pitted. Mine is 50 years old. Have a presto that pitted in a year but I tend to leave steel rings in the bottom with the water and that must have caused a reaction.


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Posted 14 April 2017 - 05:08 PM

I wouldn't think twice about buying a used AA pc as long as it's not pitted. Mine is 50 years old. Have a presto that pitted in a year but I tend to leave steel rings in the bottom with the water and that must have caused a reaction.


He was only 150yrs old when he bought it. :biggrin:
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Posted 14 April 2017 - 05:13 PM

Are the AA ones aluminum? The was my other concern about my old one, when ever it was brought out, after being put away clean and dry, there was a fine white powder coating the inside, following a pattern of discoloration. My fear was that it indicated a slow degradation in structural integrity.

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Posted 14 April 2017 - 05:16 PM

 

I wouldn't think twice about buying a used AA pc as long as it's not pitted. Mine is 50 years old. Have a presto that pitted in a year but I tend to leave steel rings in the bottom with the water and that must have caused a reaction.


He was only 150yrs old when he bought it. :biggrin:

 

That's just how long it takes to find a deal on one on ebay!


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Posted 14 April 2017 - 05:18 PM

Are the AA ones aluminum? The was my other concern about my old one, when ever it was brought out, after being put away clean and dry, there was a fine white powder coating the inside, following a pattern of discoloration. My fear was that it indicated a slow degradation in structural integrity.

 

AA cookers are cast aluminum. It would be a folly to worry about an All American cooker EVER wearing out.


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Posted 14 April 2017 - 06:07 PM

@ scott, no reason they won't be good. In a few weeks or so we'll probably here how good they are.

@ sandman , I bet the aluminum did react with the lids over time. I am sure metals react to one another over time especially with water.

I just found out that I can recycle silver containg solutions to get silver metal using water and a copper penny.


I use a presto that's aluminum.

jkdeth, mine discolored also, a reaction to my tap water ?
you can use cream of tarter to shine the inside of the aluminum PC's.

I really enjoy seeing a guy's first grow, everybody worries then they realize it was nothing to worry about.

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Posted 14 April 2017 - 07:08 PM

I wouldn't be to afraid of used ones, even so I agree that used ones aren't the best option, they can be dangerous, any signs of damage, pitting, etc would be a red flag for me.

If you've ever seen what can happen if they blow, it's not pretty, stoves destroyed,and ceiling above.

That being said the one I used to have was from the fifties, only reason I stopped using it was the weight was lost, and I couldn't replace it. I did try, but the "universal replacement" wasn't reliable.
The gasket was an issue as well, had to heat up before it would seal.

I've seen what can happen to a person who cracked the lid off while it was still hot. Ouch.



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Posted 17 April 2017 - 04:06 AM

OK... Nearly time I popped this thing out and dunked it. After that... How much misting and fanning?






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