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#1 fuzzyfunguy

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 05:57 PM

What are some good options or vendors for quality organic grain spawn ?

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 05:59 PM

I've been using wbs from Walmart with mixed results, I'd like to try an organic method to see if the mycelium will be happier growing on that.

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 06:15 PM

Purrhaps just moving over to a single grain first will help. I love oats. WBS has too many variables for my taste.



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Posted 17 April 2017 - 06:55 PM

What kind of oats do you recommend? I have a friend who uses organic oats from a local whole foods store but I'm not sure what he gets and he's hard to get in touch with...

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 07:26 PM

MLBJammer swears by oats, and it eliminates steps. I am in the final stages of a popcorn grow, but my next grain experiment will definitely be with oats!

And if you check out his grows, they are awesome!

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Posted 17 April 2017 - 08:19 PM

What kind of oats do you recommend? I have a friend who uses organic oats from a local whole foods store but I'm not sure what he gets and he's hard to get in touch with...

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Race horse oats. They are cheap, to the tune of 18-20usd per 50lb. Usually triple washed.


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Posted 17 April 2017 - 09:17 PM

I have had somewhat ok results with hard wheat winter grains . It is like barley , oats, any one a number of staple grains. As far as spawn goes , well , you have to make that yourself.


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Posted 17 April 2017 - 11:20 PM

Straight milo (sorghum grain) is what I use. It is the major ingredient of WBS, the bigger reddish seeds. $8/50lbs around here at the farm/feed store if you have those kinda things.


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Posted 18 April 2017 - 03:26 AM

if your worried about fungicide i use rye that im sure is sprayed with fungicide in the field and never had a problem, i have no scientific evidence to support any of this, and this is just my humble opinion .  but from what i heard from others over the years is fungicides wont stop mushroom growth or mushroom spore germination. wallmart might be heavily spraying the bag with fungicide before it hits the shelve. like others have said farm store, think i pay 25 buck a 50ibs bag of rye and it works great. im sure you can find some great oats or something else that works at the health food store but you'll pay the price, but organic doesnt mean spray free.


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Posted 18 April 2017 - 10:40 PM

The cool thing about oats is how many steps you can remove from the process.

You literally put oats in a jar, pour in water that you previously dissolved some gypsum in, cover with tyvek, tinfoil and PC.

Shake it baby, all you can tonight... Let cool, innoculate.

Done.

No rinsing, soaking, drying, blah... Hours saved.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 04:14 AM

The cool thing about oats is how many steps you can remove from the process.

You literally put oats in a jar, pour in water that you previously dissolved some gypsum in, cover with tyvek, tinfoil and PC.

Shake it baby, all you can tonight... Let cool, innoculate.

Done.

No rinsing, soaking, drying, blah... Hours saved.

I love it!!!

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 04:15 AM

Straight milo (sorghum grain) is what I use. It is the major ingredient of WBS, the bigger reddish seeds. $8/50lbs around here at the farm/feed store if you have those kinda things.

I've got straight millet, think that will work?

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 04:16 AM

The cool thing about oats is how many steps you can remove from the process.

You literally put oats in a jar, pour in water that you previously dissolved some gypsum in, cover with tyvek, tinfoil and PC.

Shake it baby, all you can tonight... Let cool, innoculate.

Done.

No rinsing, soaking, drying, blah... Hours saved.

I love it!!!

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Why dissolve gypsum in the water though?

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:24 AM

Straight millet works good but it is harder to get right because the seeds are so small. Harder to drain and gauge how much water it's actually taken. It's also at least twice as expensive around here.

 

I put the gypsum in with the boil water so that it can, like, totally absorb some inside of it and stuff my dude. It's just the way I do it, dunno. It's doesnt dissolve totally it's still there.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:00 AM

Straight millet works good but it is harder to get right because the seeds are so small. Harder to drain and gauge how much water it's actually taken. It's also at least twice as expensive around here.

I put the gypsum in with the boil water so that it can, like, totally absorb some inside of it and stuff my dude. It's just the way I do it, dunno. It's doesnt dissolve totally it's still there.

I've never used gypsum in a grain spawn recipe, I'm assuming it's a pH buffer??

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:12 AM

It's more of a anti caking thing plus some nutrients and maybe some ph buffering.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:13 AM

benefits are three fold in my estimation and in my opinion presented in bullet points:

 

  • pH buffer to help stem mold growth
  • makes it easier to shake the grains
  • calcium boost

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 06:18 PM

* I see not everyone is on the bullet point bandwagon.

* This is a violation of board policy.

* I am not a mod, so you can tell me to fuck off. ;-)

* My bullet points bring all the girls to the yard.

* They take one look and their bullets get hard.

Edited by SteampunkScientist, 20 April 2017 - 06:19 PM.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 06:24 PM

I need to dig up my old RR tips file, I remember using both lime and gypsum, seems I recall one immediately affected on, and the other helped maintain it. Don't remember which is which, but I've come to enjoy the "all you need to about..." answers, I'm sure someone will clarify.
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Posted 20 April 2017 - 06:29 PM

Rather than write, here is a good thread on the subject: https://mycotopia.ne...cium-carbonate/
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