Worm Castings [merged]
Posted 29 April 2006 - 07:33 AM
I had no idea I'd get fruits on castings alone after such a short time.
Posted 29 April 2006 - 08:26 AM
enjoy your flush.
Posted 29 April 2006 - 08:55 AM
Posted 03 May 2006 - 06:36 PM
Did you get a hold of Guiness? What kind of dog? Mine's Standard Poodles. I do know it requires human intervention to keep 1/2 from dying. Anyway, here's some pics of one of the best flushes I ever had, considering I put no extra effort into this one...and it was on castings alone. Now that I've harvested, I'm going to try crumbling this up and mixing with straw for some badly needed moisture.
Can't wait for the next arrivals:cacti:
Posted 03 May 2006 - 06:45 PM
and half did die.
what strain ?
Posted 03 May 2006 - 07:46 PM
Just finished combining the castings with straw and sticking the container under a blanket.
These are PR's from a clone (Karo) out of a horrible flush I had a couple of months ago. It was the only decent shroom of the bunch and only 1/4 the size of some of these. I haven't had much luck lately with anything I attempt, so this was such a surprise because I was in the middle of the process (incubating) when it came to fruition, so to speak:) I still can't get over the short time it took for them to pop up. I was anticipating a 2 week wait for full colonization and then.... except it put a damper on my original intentions.
They're under the fan as we write. I'll get a gram total in a few days after the dessicant does it's thing.
Namaste to you too.
Posted 03 May 2006 - 08:11 PM
watch contamination, pcubie ..it has a better chance of taking hold from here on-out,
due to less vigourous mycelium...such as what becomes of a colony post-flushing ..
some 'umphh' drops off after the 1st flush.
make sure to harvest these with the rest of the flush :)
The only real downfall to this experience is the fact that the sides of the container weren't taped and so I've got as many growing there as I do on the surface
if they are left under the substrate (or even above [think;aborts]) they will rot
PR's can be a picky strain,i hear--i havent tried them but this is what ive always read
These are PR's from a clone (Karo) out of a horrible flush I had a couple of months ago. It was the only decent shroom of the bunch and only 1/4 the size of some of these. I haven't had much luck lately with anything I attempt
try a south american variety! i hear cambo. is a nice easy grow, as well--& bigguns!
hmmm reckon you were exposing to light..?
this was such a surprise because I was in the middle of the process (incubating) when it came to fruition, so to speak I still can't get over the short time it took for them to pop up. I was anticipating a 2 week wait for full colonization and then.... except it put a damper on my original intentions.
to prevent pinning (or try to) keep incubatin projects away from any light
i am in the process of making up a order for vermicompost from an online supplier
recently ive read multiple reports here that worm castings do not fully colonize
this may be due to bad quality (ie: twigs, dirt, rocks, etc in the bag of castings)
but before i order i am going to ask them what they feed the worms.:crazy1:
maybe we can pin point the reason if we know what different brands use as wormfood
and compare results with each make of worm castings in a sloppy 'experiment'
then we could just say go to xxx.com and order castings from them b/c it works best
...or something like that :D:p at least we'd know more :)
1 last question for ya pcubie :) - did you case them?
casing is a great way to lock-in moisture and co2, which encourages pin formation
the casing could be any number of things (many TEKS in the archives)
a common casing is peat moss and limestone,
another is cactus soil or potting soil cut 50/50 with vermiculite,
some use straight potting soil, some use straight vermiculite..etc etc etc
something to look into for next time :)
i really love this vvvvvvvvv pic :) very cool
Posted 03 May 2006 - 10:54 PM
Posted 16 August 2006 - 02:43 PM
Also, should the worm castings be lightened up with a little coir? I really don't know how the density of castings compairs to that of farm animal poo. Many thanks for your input :-)
Posted 16 August 2006 - 04:51 PM
Posted 16 August 2006 - 07:17 PM
I would suggest using something like coir, peat or verm to fluff the castings. If you get the moisture off by even a little, plain castings will clump and/or turn to mud very easily (very bad for growth).
Specific suggestion with castings: add water SLOWLY and stir/squeeze a bunch before deciding to add more. Hydrate castings seperately from everything else. Just a little too much water will wreck castings. They should still be very fluffy when wetted, not like mud/batter at all (check the pics in the above mentioned thread).
Posted 16 August 2006 - 07:18 PM
Posted 16 August 2006 - 08:50 PM
The best(clean) way to pasteruize worm castings is to add them to a qt jar, fill with some water (i just eye ball it, when i see some of the moisture hit the bottom of the jar I'm good.... you can see the wet/dry) then i lid them (lid's have 1 hold in the middle, usually the jars i use for innoc's without the polyfil) and put 7 of them in my PC.... fill with water (3/4 up to the jar) then turn on, when the water starts to 'boil' or simmer cut it off, and put on the PC lid... let cool over night, if you don't use the next day, put duct tape on the hole, that'll keep them good for at least a week... if not longer.
The used jars get filled back up with more worm castings for the next round, never wash'em.
Posted 16 August 2006 - 11:08 PM
I'm thinking more of some WBS spawned to 50/50 castings/straw and just letting fruit in the bags with a poly-plug top. Simple, cheap, effective and to quote my favorate ron popelle onair personality, "just set it and forget it".
Edit: I ment to ask. Can castings be pasturized in a pillowcase or does it loose too many nutes to the water?
Posted 17 August 2006 - 06:44 AM
or oven pasteurized in a pot with lid...Premix and hydrate everything first so it's ready to spawn on cooling....
Posted 17 August 2006 - 10:04 AM
Posted 03 September 2006 - 11:11 PM
size of avarage fruit.
i think the size and amount of fruits is due to not being waterd well enough up to the point of pinning., but im not sure.
well time to give it another try.
foaf decided to try again at casing rey grain. this picture is his second attempt with straight grain cased with 50/50 verm/coir with lime added
looks like things are going alot better than the first attempt.
foaf got some worm shit to see if it would do any better than rey alone. castings were microwaved for 10 minutes to sterilize and mixed with some verm and a little bit of coir. pics are about 3 days into incubation
in pic 1 the poo and spawn are layerd, in pic 2 the poo and span are mixed up a bit. the mycelium seems to be recovering pretty slow in the mixed container .
i will keep you posted. any input or advice would be great
Posted 03 September 2006 - 11:38 PM
Posted 05 September 2006 - 09:25 AM
There really should not be much need to directly mist the casing layer if the moisture content was appropriate from the begginning and the humidity in the fruiting chamber was kept at the optimum range (92-95%).
Cloning a fruit will greatly increase your pinset.