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Kidnapping and corruption in Child Protective Services


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#1 SteampunkScientist

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:37 AM

This will make your blood boil...

https://medicalkidna...-cost-her-life/
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 06:49 AM

Makes me very sad. Don't know what else to say.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 08:47 AM

I posted a video here about this case.  I see Goggle/Utoob has been busy cleaning up their idea of fake news, as many of the embeds I posted back then are gone.


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 01:40 PM

I had a cousin that worked for CPS.....She had to quit based on her morals....she couldn't stand taking children away from their parents for no good reason....Of course on the other hand, there were those parents that didn't deserve their children, and that she said she had no problems with, but those cases were fewer....


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Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:07 AM

"Legally Kidnapped: An Interview With CPS Whistleblower Carlos Morales"

 

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:25 AM

My neighbours kids were taken away for no good reason well...a complicated reason ....but the kids were in no danger anymore they needed therapy which got even more confusing when the kids wanted "private therapy" which was way better but its not paid for cuz the therapist isnt in the child protection services hum...directory .....I have had a complicated mess with them a few times cuz of my neighbour they wanted to spy on her so they overly bug me to do so....
....they have looked at me so weird when I tell them "thanks for coming" as they are leaving ....they look at me really weird and say "Ive never heard that one before" I tell them that if for some reason they think that my kids are in danger and I cannot or am not doing anything about it well thanks for checking on them to make sure they are safe ....and they r so thanks for coming and bye bye

:) I have a story of long ago I guess when they were just sstarting child protection stuff ...My budy is in his 80s and he was 14 then ....his Dad had passed away like a month ago or something like that ...my buddy was working to provide for his brothers and sisters and mother .....they had a homestead in the middle of no where and lived off the land hunting trapping and gardening and gathering well anyway one evening a couple of strangers came calling ...I guess trying to take the kids cuz someone was concerned that they had no one to take care of them ....well my buddy met them at the door with the shot gun told them that my family is just fine I think you should leave :)
...well buddy only got in a little bit of trouble cuz he had no idea who these people were trying to split his family up :) he wasnt planing on hurting anyone but ya know cant let someone take the little ones for no good reason either ;)
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:50 PM

I don't trust child protection, but...

I also do NOT trust religious zelots who judge who can be allowed to raise children and with which values.

 

Lay low, keep dark, smile, and live in peace.


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Posted 22 June 2017 - 08:19 AM

I would kill anyone and destroy anything that tried to get between me and my kids. I pray for their sake, they never try it.
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Posted 24 June 2017 - 03:59 AM

I would kill anyone and destroy anything that tried to get between me and my kids. I pray for their sake, they never try it.


Me too but its easier said then done ....its best to stay off thier radar....

when they came and threatened to take my kids they came with 5 cop cars 2 cops each car and the child protection worker.....I got a friend to leave as she sisnt have to satay but anyway she called my family to come and take the kids instead of the worker taking them ....... it was all a misunderstanding anyway and I was free to keep my kids ....but I still had the child protection worker come back for a few months a visit every week until I met with a diff worker and asked her how to get along with my normal worker better?

she was curious and I told her that when she comes all she does is threaten me and I get defensive and me being grumpy and angry with her is causeing problems ......she said well your being nice with me ....I said yes but your not threating me eitther to push my buttons.......next visit my normal worker came back to close the file ;)

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 08:28 AM

"Legally Kidnapped: An Interview With CPS Whistleblower Carlos Morales"

 

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Not a fan of this guy.  He removed two children from a meth house where the parents were encouraging the kids to shit and piss near the stashes in the house so nobody would steal their drugs and all he can think of is how it's an injustice that meth is illegal?!?  Yeah, the drug war is an injustice but there are plenty of parents who endanger or harm their children to the point that they should be removed.  Often, there are drugs involved, but in the bad cases it's because the parents are choosing meth and heroin over their kids.  Fuck them.  I would be shocked to death to find out that good people who use pot or psychedelics are commonly having their kids removed.  That said, I have seen CPS involved when a parent had a medical card.  That was stupid, but in the end the case was dropped.  CPS sees awful things all the time.  They're not going to be interested unless the kid might be in danger.

 

The drug war is wrong and it does affect the way that CPS does its work, but that is not what it's all about.

 

I'm not surprised that some of you have come into contact with CPS, because CPS investigations are common.  They can be instigated by any nosy asshole on your block.  I'm sorry you had to deal with that Wild, I'm sure you're a fantastic parent.  Most cases are closed without action, or the parents are required to participate in "services".  Removal is the last resort. 

 

This week I saw an authorization to remove three children because one of them, an infant, was brought to the hospital in critical condition with (I think it was a) brain hemorrhage.  The father had no explanation and ran away from the police when they got to the hospital.  Fuck that guy.  Something had to be done and removal is the mechanism we have to deal with it.  I'm not saying it's a good thing.  If there is a better way I'm all ears.

 

Sorry, got worked up there!  :)  How y'all doing?  :D


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Posted 25 June 2017 - 10:03 AM

As in all things government, there are good, sincere people who want to do what's best for everyone.

And then there are those who want to sate their evil desires knowing that the way government beaucracy is set up, know they can get away with evil.

Unfortunately, it is these latter sort that ruin everything. Human trafficking is rampant, and under government cover, makes for a whole host of horrors.
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Posted 26 June 2017 - 05:25 AM

For sure.  Malicious people are not screened out in the process of becoming a doctor, or an officer, a teacher, or an official.


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Posted 27 June 2017 - 12:33 PM

"Legally Kidnapped: An Interview With CPS Whistleblower Carlos Morales"
 

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Not a fan of this guy.  He removed two children from a meth house where the parents were encouraging the kids to shit and piss near the stashes in the house so nobody would steal their drugs and all he can think of is how it's an injustice that meth is illegal?!?  Yeah, the drug war is an injustice but there are plenty of parents who endanger or harm their children to the point that they should be removed.  Often, there are drugs involved, but in the bad cases it's because the parents are choosing meth and heroin over their kids.  Fuck them.  I would be shocked to death to find out that good people who use pot or psychedelics are commonly having their kids removed.  That said, I have seen CPS involved when a parent had a medical card.  That was stupid, but in the end the case was dropped.  CPS sees awful things all the time.  They're not going to be interested unless the kid might be in danger.
 
The drug war is wrong and it does affect the way that CPS does its work, but that is not what it's all about.
 
I'm not surprised that some of you have come into contact with CPS, because CPS investigations are common.  They can be instigated by any nosy asshole on your block.  I'm sorry you had to deal with that Wild, I'm sure you're a fantastic parent.  Most cases are closed without action, or the parents are required to participate in "services".  Removal is the last resort. 
 
This week I saw an authorization to remove three children because one of them, an infant, was brought to the hospital in critical condition with (I think it was a) brain hemorrhage.  The father had no explanation and ran away from the police when they got to the hospital.  Fuck that guy.  Something had to be done and removal is the mechanism we have to deal with it.  I'm not saying it's a good thing.  If there is a better way I'm all ears.
 
Sorry, got worked up there!  :)  How y'all doing?  :D

It is one of the best reasons to get worked up over children are one of the most special beings in our lives and I do believe it takes a comunity to raise a child .........

....I dont know the answers but addictions and parents / children relationships there should be a better way....some things can go over the top I have heard of some people hiding drugs in the babys dipers (ones the babies are wering) to get the drugs were they need to go .....neglict to the point that babies have to feed themselves ......and well parents out there some should have never been parents children go threw abuse everyday some places and there should be people to help and remove children ....but foster parents can fup big time too and I have seen that too

......I know these workers have very dangerous job at times and the ones that have a heart and r oing thir jobs right need a big hug cuz they get lots of shit all aroudnd ....many people a parents worst night mare could be fighting child protection services but this shouldnt be like this either ......because parents are afraid maybe they wont reach out for help when they need it.....example when I was being abused by my ex so was my oldest son and there was nothing I could do to stop it ....If I felt safer to go ask these people for help I would have but the risk of me loosing my kid cuz i had an abusive boy friend I wanted to leave
....maybe if one parent could go for help in that situation would be a hell of a lot better then the fear

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Posted 27 June 2017 - 02:44 PM

 

example when I was being abused by my ex so was my oldest son and there was nothing I could do to stop it ....If I felt safer to go ask these people for help I would have but the risk of me loosing my kid cuz i had an abusive boy friend I wanted to leave

 

That's really sad, I'm sorry you had to go through that.  A lot of people still don't understand that, in an abusive relationship, it's not so simple to up and leave.

 

That situation is a catch 22 because if you call, then you draw attention that your child is exposed to an abusive relationship.  If you don't call and it comes out then people ask why you didn't take steps to protect him or her from the abusive relationship.

 

In any event, you deserve much better Sky.


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