I enjoyed that comment in another thread too Spooner.
But since then, I've been party to a discussion which sought to explain the "Why?"
In the story, Lot and his family were told of the destruction of two cities. By whatever means, they were delivered from disaster only to lose Lot's wife to some ridiculous disobedience clause (much like Adam, Eve, and the Apple - Or Moses never getting to enter the promised land. But that's a cynical discussion for another time. I'm still investigating to find the gap in social context.)
Back to the point:
Lot has lost his wife and has only his two daughters. In short, they believed themselves to be the only survivors of a global cataclysm - not just a local cataclysm. Believing they were the only remaining male and female animals they felt somehow honor-bound to procreate due to some deep seated social hangups which wouldn't likely make sense to us today (having grown up under an entirely different value set).
Just offering something which I found to be at least a plausible stab at an explanation for an otherwise fucked up story.
And good point. Please site references and maybe hyperlink the verse or something. Not being terse or rude........I just don't have the bible memorized chapter and verse and being able to quickly reference the verses in context to the point is most helpful.
Myc, I forgot to give you credit on this explanation. Well said, I couldn't have said it better myself.
Our income tax system in a nut shell.
monkey see monkey do lol .
Final, in reference to the backwards world...correct, sort of...It is explained more poignantly in scriptures; 1 John 5:19, Galations 1:4, John 18:36, and most notably in Ephesians 6:12.
I hope that helps, God be with you in your journey of life!
i chill with the "real god" all the time, her masculine counterpart was resting earlier today. but chilled with her, was awesome .
( didnt feel masculine nor feminine if i had to put gender it be "gentle" . but came across more feminine then masculine )
told her kinda worn out from being in hell nourish me.
then i took some of her power and sent it downwards towards hell . i told her look what i can do, started transmuting.
left her area, and was transmuting,
she wanted to come in, i let her in, she started singing, best to put it, swo way ooh way woah way haye . , when she was inside me the tone of my voice i could not match no matter what.
meeting her, i got beamed up in my space with in hyper space. she say do you know who i am ? i responded the real god lol .
earth his hell m8, im here to free my people from it , more less show them how to free themselves and gain the same power as the real god.
english only earth lagnuage i know and is not native to me its very foreign .
the initial form was similar to a super golden coral reef, but when she wanted to chat n jumpped into me, almost looked like a bumble bee with 3 golden butts forming triangle head harms legs were invisible n faded in out , almost looked similar to magus sisters in final fantasy.
Final, I have read this thread several times over the last couple weeks and in our private conversations we have established more back and forth and allow me to answer again, in a way I feel you'll like.
In my first quoted verse above of 1 John 5:19-20, God is telling us then and now that he has given us an understanding that we know him(God the Father) that is true, just as everything Jesus has said, has been True and is the Son of God who has eternal life and the whole world lays with the evil one. Remember the whole world at this time only had, the "Old Testament" referred to as the holy scriptures to reference and so the apostles and Jesus did, so the shocking news was spread by the witness of these men verbally at first and later by written letters.
In my second quoted verse above of Galatians 1:4-5, God is telling us that our debt of sin from Adam to us has been paid for by his only Son, our deliverer from this evil world, Jesus Christ according to the will of God the Father, to whom all glory belongs to.
In my third quoted verse above of John 18:36, Jesus is telling us his Kingdom is not of this evil world and if it were of this world, and he asks Pilate (knowing Pilates answer) if his kingdom were of this world, would his servants fight, to free him from his captures, so that he isn't delivered to the enraged Jews(who's customs he has been violating with good cause for the recent few years past and in public view) and killed (knowing his fate) and tells Pilate, but now is my kingdom not from here (this world).
In my fourth quoted verse above of Ephesians 6:11-13, God is telling us to live and act in faith and with God at our back, we may stand against the trickery of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood(mankind), but against the principalities(governments), against the powers(men of money), against the world-rulers of this darkness(men of power or position or of money or any combination), against the spiritual host of wickedness in heavenly places (The devil will convince 1/3 of heavens angels to fall from grace). Therefore if angels can be deceived, be on guard and live in faith and stand in righteous defense of everything in your power to honor God in the pursuit of the defense thereof.
... it was indeed a different place and time...
Ain't it always the case? Just like now, and now, and now...
Place and time are just never the same, now are they? Write down a description of anything and you miss the fluid truth of it. All scripture is dead. Same for all the history books. The truth only exists for us now. Take full advantage of it. It's where the "real God" is.
Alder, when you say all scripture is dead do you mean of the permanent reference of it? Cause I could see that about the Word of God. Ironically, I can see the timelessness in the scriptures, the great flood in the old testament is a foreshadowing symbolism of the vessel used in cleansing the world (water) as was seen in the new testament in the symbolic baptizing vessel used in cleansing the spirit (water). Of greater irony, I feel the main reason for the Old testament is because of the flood and how much was lost and in an effort to correct the path of Men, God and man made the instrument of correction, what we know as the bible and what God knows as his Son(The Living Word). Love you brother.