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[Earthling]

I've recently started using the Bokashi method of fermenting plant-based food scraps being as I don't have room for a good compost and my old worm bin has be de-escalated and de-commissioned for the time being... So, I've been using EM-1 infused bran to break down food scraps anaerobically, HAS ANYONE USED BOKASHI AS A WAY TO DEAL WITH CONTAMINATED GRAIN JARS? Think this would be an ethical solution if it's not too bad of a contam?? 

[PsyBearknot]

Ill pull up a rocking chair for this

I wonder if it might go better in the mushroom forums since it is talking about contaminated grain jars and that forum gets more traffic but let’s see where this goes

[onediadem]

I have been doing some research on Bokashi. There are a lot of youtube videos on this subject. It is a fascinating topic for sure. 

[CatsAndBats]

It could get messy!

[Earthling]

Ill pull up a rocking chair for this

I wonder if it might go better in the mushroom forums since it is talking about contaminated grain jars and that forum gets more traffic but let’s see where this goes

 
I went to "Contams" forum, and it didn't look like I was able to post there...

[Earthling]

It could get messy!

My hopefully landlord friendly setup consists of 2 food-grade 5-gallons, and a stainless steel spigot for draining excess liquid... I would think maybe pressure cooking them and then adding it, might be an option, but I read some where here that the contams could escape in the steam before it hits 15psi.

[CatsAndBats]

 

It could get messy!

My hopefully landlord friendly setup consists of 2 food-grade 5-gallons, and a stainless steel spigot for draining excess liquid... I would think maybe pressure cooking them and then adding it, might be an option, but I read some where here that the contams could escape in the steam before it hits 15psi.

 

 

 

If you're worried about the spore load getting shot out of the valve on the pressure cooker before full pressure and temperature are reached, maybe throw a wet rag over the valve? As I understand it water molecules are sticky, maybe sticky enough to grab spores.

I'm just spit ballin' here.

[coorsmikey]

Ill pull up a rocking chair for this
I wonder if it might go better in the mushroom forums since it is talking about contaminated grain jars and that forum gets more traffic but let’s see where this goes

 
I went to "Contams" forum, and it didn't look like I was able to post there...

Please tell me you’re talking about the Archived Vaults
https://mycotopia.ne...ion-pestsbugs/. If not I am missing a forum. :scratches head:

[onediadem]

I am curious where also.. I seem to have misplaced that spot myself.

[Earthling]

In response to, "If you're worried about the spore load getting shot out of the valve on the pressure cooker before full pressure and temperature are reached, maybe throw a wet rag over the valve? As I understand it water molecules are sticky, maybe sticky enough to grab spores.

I'm just spit ballin' here." and others...

 

 

 

It could have been another Mycology based website, in the past I was lurkin' and not participating so it also could of been vaults... That wet rag idea should work, I also have a vent fan above my stove with two settings; very loud, and loud so that eases my concern as well... I'll give it a whirl...

Hmm, say it was Trichoderma, I wonder if it would still be good for diseased tree's after being ran through pressure cooker... That might make, a good future post.

Edited by Earthling, 17 November 2017 - 01:05 PM.

[Earthling]

Update 7 months later, super successful!
The Bokasi gave me a lot of liquid fertilizer, after the fermentation was complete, I opened it and it smell as it should and burried it in a yard that needed some bio-remediation (fruit trees near trashcans that get tipped over frequently, batteries, metals, all that other human made garbage) and it seemed to really build the soil!
Got another one going now, added in some spawn that Trichoderma had got to.

Edited by Earthling, 08 June 2018 - 11:30 PM.

[Justintime]

I'm sure I read recently that Actinomycetes had a special relationship with other fungi in assisting fruiting.

[Earthling]

I'm sure I read recently that Actinomycetes had a special relationship with other fungi in assisting fruiting.

https://mycotopia.ne...omycetes-worry/
I googled it a little, and actually found your old post on that, thanks for the response.

[Phungivore]

been doing bokashi for lots of years found out about it in the early 2000's, i give all meat bone and other stuff not suitable for worm bin in bokashi bucket, and since i am in apartment i take the finished bokashi and fill a tote with about 6 " of soil then dump in bokashi then cover that with more soil, in about 2-3 months maybe less i have black material that does not resemble anything that went in, with the exception of bones which a lot a time are still reconizable but will eventually break down to nothing

[Phungivore]

if you could transfer contaminated jars with out inhaling a bunch of spores, as we know some spores are very bad for us like say aspergillus niger, i wonder if n95 respirator is effective against paticulates in the size ranges of bad spores. those saftey points in mind i would think the fermentaion process it self would deactivate the spores of the contams. lacto bacillus when it gets its way and can drop the ph of its environment to the desired ph of 3.5, not many bad things will live there while the lacto are happy.

Edited by Phungivore, 09 June 2020 - 07:34 AM.