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#21 Microbe

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 06:36 PM

Lol when he was posting “Randoms” in other threads at 2am my time last night, I knew it was game day or a bender lol

Little bit of both, game day resulted in the bender. I made a few troll posts but I went back and cleaned them lol
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yeah I was posting inappropriate responses and deleting them before anyone else saw them.
I seen the alerts but no post, i figured you were lol

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 06:39 PM

Lol when he was posting “Randoms” in other threads at 2am my time last night, I knew it was game day or a bender lol

Little bit of both, game day resulted in the bender. I made a few troll posts but I went back and cleaned them lol
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yeah I was posting inappropriate responses and deleting them before anyone else saw them.
I like to poke the bear on occasion

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 06:41 PM

Lol when he was posting “Randoms” in other threads at 2am my time last night, I knew it was game day or a bender lol

Little bit of both, game day resulted in the bender. I made a few troll posts but I went back and cleaned them lol
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yeah I was posting inappropriate responses and deleting them before anyone else saw them.
That's cheating....

Mikey Edit: can't have our new members thinking I'm a dick cuz we are able to talk shit to one another. You guys get it but our newer members would be WTF? This is admin in this place?

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#24 Microbe

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 06:43 PM

Lol when he was posting “Randoms” in other threads at 2am my time last night, I knew it was game day or a bender lol

Little bit of both, game day resulted in the bender. I made a few troll posts but I went back and cleaned them lol
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yeah I was posting inappropriate responses and deleting them before anyone else saw them.
That's cheating....
Right!

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#25 Hash_Man

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Posted 24 December 2017 - 06:48 PM

now I know how you guys get high post counts LMAO!

One note: the Holmes air purifier for the Shrumovbox is at a low price now since I last checked (years ago) they where near 50.00 you can find them for 32.99 and 39.00 w/Ionizer I have the Ionizer just extra security . . not all of us can afford a flowhood like microbehead.
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Posted 24 December 2017 - 07:46 PM

I actually thought "Who let these idiots loose on the board?" I realized you were guys were joking after I read all of that. I did do a double take on the names. 

 

I feel much calmer now.. Carry on!

There are some newbs who would do that though.

Sort of like the coofee at Mickey D's. Warning: Coofee is hot.

 

Some of us aren't dumb asses. Some are.  :tongue: 


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#27 Hash_Man

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 03:58 PM

last time we introduced the Shrumovbox but really didnt cover the benifits but first, on this third round of jars I'd like to back up regarding some small details duing simmering.

I may have mentioned soak if I overnight or short soak on same day, before any simmering i like to rinse out the nasty smelly water about 4-5 times till it's fairly clear. so simmer for a while sometimes I turn of and put the lid on it speeds things up but also you have to watch they don't get TOO hydrated if you do this a lot you'll get a feel for it, I mentioned in the first post some of the things to look for, I add a tsp, of gypsum before simmer, more if your doing larger than seven 3/4 filled quart jars but it won't matter too so much.

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what we're after is that the grains (actually the milo) very center is still dry dry, that way you'll have less time waiting for the right outside dryness as they can be slightly on the wet side and dry center will act as insurance it still be good..

so yeah, sounds like a lot of bullshit details, I just don't know how to say/text it better, just keep in mind what you want to accomplish will be your driver so to speak.

For those that are not familiar with the Shrumovbox it's better than using a SAB(still air box) but not quite a flowhood, who could afford those things anyway... Here's a link more detailed so you know.
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I use foil over the lids two reasons to keep jars from clanging toget her in the PC, yeah well this is a big deal because you might not see cracked glass till you start shaking the jars and cut your hand or anything else open on the broken jar, it happens quick, and I use foil to keep on the first part of colonazation as protection from contams. I like to mention here the idea is to not loose a jar during colonisation and if things wrong you may rule out that it was due to the spawn.


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I forgot to mention I take my jar directly from the PC to the Shrumovbox bag. when your done noc'ing up the jars and while still in the Shrumovbox let the condensation evaporate off, it can be done before or after inoculation but I do it after as sometimes it still has wetness if you let it dry off first, then of course I put the foil on just during the first part of spawn colonazation.

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#28 Microbe

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 04:35 PM

The mechanics of a shmuvbox creeps me out. Not saying it doesn't work but let me prove my point but first we need to visit the other two you mentioned.

SAB. The proper operation of a SAB is requires a little soapy water or bleach water for example. All the solid surfaces are sprayed which traps and hilds onto contaminants that would otherwise float around in the SAB. Removing the arms in and out introduces new contaminates everytime and therefore the jar lid needs to be wiped down again after reentry. Very very effective when done correctly but not ergonomical or practical for a commercial grower or anyone deals in serious weight.

Flow hood is very ergonomically sound and can easily handle a large workload efficiently. However and even with my labgrade hepa filter, contaminates still drop off of my persons and even some come through the filter but they exit in laminar flow fashion over the top and or around my material.

So a SAB virtually can trap all contaminates if you want stay bent over a SAB with your arms in it for 10 minutes to allow everything to settle down onto the solid surfaces while a flow hood there is still contams moving and coming dangerously close to infiltrated our medias.

So now onto the shmuvbox. It simply a trash bag with holes in it for your arms attached to a air purifier that maintains positive pressure.

My issues with this is that 1st the grow filters are not efficient respectively but even that would not be a big deal if the air exiting was in laminar fashion but instead you have all this air whirling around in there and more then likely littered with contaminates.

Secondly let say your filter doesn't allow anything through , placing your arms in could potentially introduce contams from your persons which drop off and whirl around as they are not being removed in laminar fashion.

With all that being said I know people use them and with great success. My brain wont allow me to use one or i would during the winter time when doing minor culture work because it Lsucko's ( my Spanish for sucks ) turning on my flow hood in the cold ass garage.

So you are the first person that i personally know that uses one so I can pop the question.

What is your contamination rate? My standard is 3%> and if your pulling that off I may give the shmuvbox a go.

I think I'm do for a update grain prep tek myself! You know the new age versus the old timers

Looking good man!

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 05:12 PM

I think your describing a glove box and in that respect yes I purposely left that option out, unless I'm wrong which happens lol, a SAB is a tote that's on a nonporous surface on its side or right side up, where you turn off your heater or AC all moving air in your room and clean sanitize the shit in the immediate area. Shower real well and put on just washed cloths ( preferably in Clorox) wear a hair net and mask gloves and spray your self down with lysol or alcohol. but I agree with your over thinking as I'm one also but this Shrumovbox works! point blank, plus it's handy dandy easier.

besides I'm just telling what I do that works it's not an ultimate TEK (as I stated) so you can't challenge somebody for saying what they do, it's against the law lol.

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 08:49 PM

Hash if you ever get up my way I will give you my flowhood. Just bring a truck, because Big Bertha ain't gonna fit in a trunk. I doubt I will ever around to cloning and all the plans that I had for it. And, I know that Miss Cue would love to get it out of the dining room. I have some home repairs and upgrades that I'm planning and the damn thing is just in the way.

That is of course if you have the room for it.

 

BTW glad you like the Cubensis China.


Edited by Cue, 27 December 2017 - 08:50 PM.

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 12:28 PM

Hash if you ever get up my way I will give you my flowhood. Just bring a truck, because Big Bertha ain't gonna fit in a trunk. I doubt I will ever around to cloning and all the plans that I had for it. And, I know that Miss Cue would love to get it out of the dining room. I have some home repairs and upgrades that I'm planning and the damn thing is just in the way.
That is of course if you have the room for it.

BTW glad you like the Cubensis China.

What? Your getting rid of big bertha? Has it not helpped with any of the other processes?

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 12:31 PM

I think your describing a glove box and in that respect yes I purposely left that option out, unless I'm wrong which happens lol, a SAB is a tote that's on a nonporous surface on its side or right side up, where you turn off your heater or AC all moving air in your room and clean sanitize the shit in the immediate area. Shower real well and put on just washed cloths ( preferably in Clorox) wear a hair net and mask gloves and spray your self down with lysol or alcohol. but I agree with your over thinking as I'm one also but this Shrumovbox works! point blank, plus it's handy dandy easier.

besides I'm just telling what I do that works it's not an ultimate TEK (as I stated) so you can't challenge somebody for saying what they do, it's against the law lol.

So the answer to.my question is it works? That's all I was asking coupled with my reasoning behind why the mechanics of a shmuvbox scares me. Never said it didnt work, I asked you if it worked or how efficient is it what is your contam rate was my reference to efficiency......you teenager ;)

PS you need a solution on the non pourus surface to trap contaminates.....

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 01:10 PM

Here is some China porn for you Hashman. Probably my favorite strain!

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 02:17 PM

Here is some China porn for you Hashman. Probably my favorite strain!4f30509723a4a6058b4d5bc2dc61a16a.jpg
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doesn't get any better than that does it?

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 03:06 PM

Here is some China porn for you Hashman. Probably my favorite strain!4f30509723a4a6058b4d5bc2dc61a16a.jpg
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doesn't get any better than that does it?
I think so. There is room for a few more mushrooms in those subs

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:55 PM

Running Chinas soon.. ;)
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Posted 02 January 2018 - 09:41 PM

Running Chinas soon.. ;)

I set the bar.......well Lactos Bacillus did but you get it.....

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 09:47 PM

 

Running Chinas soon.. ;)

I set the bar.......well Lactos Bacillus did but you get it.....

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Wait, direct me to where you posted about how to use it. Is it in your randoms? Which is where we should go with bacteria talk anyway, not to hijack Mr. Hashman's thread.


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 01:02 AM

Running Chinas soon.. ;)

I set the bar.......well Lactos Bacillus did but you get it.....

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Wait, direct me to where you posted about how to use it. Is it in your randoms? Which is where we should go with bacteria talk anyway, not to hijack Mr. Hashman's thread.
Hashman can't be got and he gots this ......trust me.....hash grew in freaking vehicle's for ducks sakes and he is very intimate with bacteria....

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 07:31 AM

Running Chinas soon.. ;)

I set the bar.......well Lactos Bacillus did but you get it.....
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Wait, direct me to where you posted about how to use it. Is it in your randoms? Which is where we should go with bacteria talk anyway, not to hijack Mr. Hashman's thread.
Hashman can't be got and he gots this ......trust me.....hash grew in freaking vehicle's for ducks sakes and he is very intimate with bacteria....
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not intimidated, been in marijuana mode for a year. Got to get my thumbs purple again using what I got and the info Microbe came up with through the years to continue utilizing phase ll and thermolitics I started messing with years back but got off track, so catching up and post what you wilt so I don't have to text microbe for info all day lol.

Edited by Hash_Man, 03 January 2018 - 07:34 AM.

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