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#1 drumdidly

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 11:57 PM

in the thread about different strains and their different effects the difference in dry vs. wet was mentioned, but not elaborated on. what is the difference in potency between dry and wet? I've never taken any fresh, as i can't get myself to swallow them, thus i'm unaware of the differences. so, experienced psychonauts, what be the difference?

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 05:30 AM

Research indicates that fresh shrooms are a little higher in psilocin content, which is what we turn psilocybin into when we digest the fruits. I don't think there's a big difference in potency between fresh and dry, from my experiences. Freshies taste a lot better to me, and they are perhaps a little stronger--but it's not enough to make yourself gag if you can't stand them fresh.

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 09:15 AM

actually it depends on the psilocin content of the boomers [shrooms],
some have high amounts of psilocin and are significantly more potent when fresh
as most of the psilocin is lost during drying.

of course if the shroom began with very little psilocin and only contained psilocybin
then drying would have little effect and the potency would be the same fresh or dried.

but in general most boomers have enough psilocin
to make the freshies noticeably stronger than dried.

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 10:38 AM

I guess I will have to experiment on myself some more. It's tough for me to do freshies, with the limited time frame before rot sets in. I have not noticed that much difference in potency so far, but I will admit I didn't really weigh the fresh ones out--i.e., I'll eat those three that are the length of my hand.

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 11:17 AM

Maybe it is just me, but I see a world of difference between fresh and dried, both potency and "quality" wise.

I drastically prefer fresh.

Of course, I'm not above falling for a placebo effect. I encourage them whenever I can, actually.

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 08:39 AM

No placebo effect, BB.

I agree with you...freshest is bestest!

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 08:49 AM

fresh are way better to me. mainly i prefer the taste of fresh to dry but the trip on freshies is always visual.

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 02:06 PM

I agree with BB on this one, I think freash are up to 1/3 stronger, I have absolutly no proof than that other than the "seat of my pants" so it's nothing more than opinion.

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 03:36 PM

I will have to approach my next fresh adventure more scientifically. But I will have to say that I didn't think the fresh trip was that much stronger. But I have been wrong many times, and will be wrong in the future. I should have some fresh ones in the next few days. I will post a report maybe.

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 05:05 PM

Ha ha ha ha...

I guess this doesn't make sense after reading you guys' posts, but I've never been able to trip from freshies, and believe me - I've tried.

Ate 10g fresh once and got a headache. Dried shrooms from the same batch, side by side, and went nuts from 3g. Maybe it's my body? Who knows, but my vote goes for dried, extracted is even better :)

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 05:36 PM

Dam sol!! I haven't heard of not tripping off of freashies, My advise is more like 30-50 grams wet. If the 10:1 ratio is correct that would be equal to a 3 gram dry dose

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 06:43 PM

yeah. sounds like your dosing at dry weights when you should X it by 10. as for making freshies last a little longer. make some tea when they are fresh and freeze it til your ready.

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 08:23 PM

do what? you can freeze the tea?

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 08:31 PM

if there is any choice in the matter.

and there always should be

I will never eat dry again...

I dry only to extract and
I dry shrooms to preserve to extract at later
dates.

I'd like to thank Soliver for that


he dont know it but his post talked me into trying it and
I LIKE.....

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 08:33 PM

10 grams.....what?

I can eat that at work and be ok...no wonder



I think your pulling our leg Soliver.

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 08:53 PM

Boomers?

#17 Hippie3

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 08:58 PM

slang for mushrooms

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 08:58 PM

thats them
baby boomer terminology
lol

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 10:47 PM

Ate 10g fresh once and got a headache. Dried shrooms from the same batch, side by side, and went nuts from 3g.

soliver


10g fresh is like 1 or less grams dry. No wonder dry shrooms work better for you.

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 11:03 PM

I'd have to say making tea with fresh mushrooms is the best thing in the world. Adding an actual tea bag to a cup of hot water, dividing it into 2 for 2 people, and then pouring in the shroom water and adding a hint of lemon just feels so right.




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