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Bought these today, are they Peruvian or Bolivian torch?


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#1 dreadydavo

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 12:37 AM

The labels just say cactus.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 01:13 AM

They appear to be Blue Myrtle. Not active but they are good grafting base stock, and a great color.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 11:09 AM

They appear to be Blue Myrtle. Not active but they are good grafting base stock, and a great color.

 

Will you detail that please? I'm not sure that I understand.



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 04:16 PM

OK, detailing.........................

Blue Myrtle is a columnar cactus with a similar appearance to Pedro or torch, but the ridges are much deeper. It has a beautiful blueish skin, more noticable in fresh growth .

It also has no active alkaloid content so it won't get you where you want if consumed. It does however grow reasonably fast, and small Lophs or very young active trichs will  fuse well to the cut flesh if you graft them onto it, in order to create a faster growth on Lophs or a stable base structure.

The growth rate on a cactus grafted on to Myrtle is slower than a graft to pereskiopsis, but being a much stronger and larger diameter it can support grafted cactus for much longer than pereskiopsis.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 05:18 PM

OK, detailing.........................

Blue Myrtle is a columnar cactus with a similar appearance to Pedro or torch, but the ridges are much deeper. It has a beautiful blueish skin, more noticable in fresh growth .

It also has no active alkaloid content so it won't get you where you want if consumed. It does however grow reasonably fast, and small Lophs or very young active trichs will  fuse well to the cut flesh if you graft them onto it, in order to create a faster growth on Lophs or a stable base structure.

The growth rate on a cactus grafted on to Myrtle is slower than a graft to pereskiopsis, but being a much stronger and larger diameter it can support grafted cactus for much longer than pereskiopsis.

 

 

So you're saying we can graft active species to them? I guess I did understand what you're were saying.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:00 PM

Why yes you can....................

The two central grafts are LW grafted onto blue myrtle

 

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Edited by Skywatcher, 07 March 2018 - 07:01 PM.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:30 PM

That is fascinating!



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Posted 15 March 2018 - 07:18 PM

Why yes you can....................
The two central grafts are LW grafted onto blue myrtle
 
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What’s top center? Pelacyphora family?

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 08:04 PM

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Can you tell me the latin name of mine sky? I've just been calling it san pedro, but that's generic, right?


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Posted 15 March 2018 - 09:08 PM

Can you tell me the latin name of mine sky? I've just been calling it san pedro, but that's generic, right?

San Pedro is Echinopsis Pachanoi

But we can probably all agree the mescaline containing cactus are gifts and potential "teachers", for those who would listen.........

 

https://magiccactus....opsis-pachanoi/


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Posted 15 March 2018 - 09:12 PM

Good link!



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Posted 25 March 2018 - 09:36 AM

 

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What’s top center? Pelacyphora family?

 

It's commonly called spruce cone. Tephrocactus articulatus var. diadematus (pine cone cactus).

 

The connection point is weak, so they often break off and then root readily. This cactus is actually grown quite a bit since the picture was taken. Ill try to get a more current picture.






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