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#1 drrazzeux

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 10:03 PM

Hello, grew up around cattle and shrooms here in the deep south, near New Orleans. it was not unusual to pick three or 4 large paper shopping bags full in 15 to 20 minutes. Didn't know any better and we boiled to a mush, strained and then froze to separate the gunk out. Still was foul to get down and it seem you body would fight you when you tried to drink the juice. Usually two to three ounces in a large tumbler full of concentrated Delaware Punch or Hawaiian Punch. In a hour you knew you were dying then a super fine trip 6 7o 8 hour trip.

Well them days done be gone yeah! Started growing. My third attempt and it may actually produce. Just birth the jars and a few had small shrooms that fell off before dunking. Should they be taken off? Ate them, hope that is cool but hate waste.

 

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 11:04 PM

Hello, grew up around cattle and shrooms here in the deep south, near New Orleans. it was not unusual to pick three or 4 large paper shopping bags full in 15 to 20 minutes. Didn't know any better and we boiled to a mush, strained and then froze to separate the gunk out. Still was foul to get down and it seem you body would fight you when you tried to drink the juice. Usually two to three ounces in a large tumbler full of concentrated Delaware Punch or Hawaiian Punch. In a hour you knew you were dying then a super fine trip 6 7o 8 hour trip.

Well them days done be gone yeah! Started growing. My third attempt and it may actually produce. Just birth the jars and a few had small shrooms that fell off before dunking. Should they be taken off? Ate them, hope that is cool but hate waste.

 

Looking forward to learning more. DrRazzeux

welcome aboard! looking forward to you sharing your grows


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 11:52 PM

Welcome! How did ya get the cattle to fit into the shopping bags so fast?
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Posted 08 June 2018 - 11:55 PM

Welcome!


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Posted 09 June 2018 - 08:03 AM

Sup, welcome. Glad you made it.


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Posted 09 June 2018 - 11:58 AM

Welcome cuz!


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Posted 09 June 2018 - 01:43 PM

Welcome aboard, I'm also new her. Hold on for a unique learning experience. The warmth around here will make you feel right at ease. 


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 03:32 PM

Hello, thank y'all and looking forward to learning. I find that get cattle into a paper shopping sack you need to get the cows moving fast. Hold the bag to the side and then hold on.  :=)

I am starting my second grow. Can I place the jars inside a stryphome ice chest. The temp is 100 f plus where I need to grow. I figure the ice chest should stay close to 90.

So, can I use an ice chest? What do recommend for fruiting them, mono tub or ? Thank Y'all, Razzu

 

 

 

 

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 06:31 PM

Hey there drrazzeux.

I don't think your cooler is going to do much for you.

 

At temperatures above 80*F you're most likely to cultivate bacteria. Mycelial death begins at 84*F and accelerates as the temperature climbs. Your challenge is going to be to find a cooler, stable environment or choose to grow during a cooler season. 

Or 

You could get creative and hack together your own cooling system like those used in the great deserts of the world. 


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Posted 11 July 2018 - 06:37 PM

Welcome!

Maybe get a bunch of those little thermometers from the dollar store and post them up in dark or otherwise unused areas of your home and try to find the coolest spot,then go from there?

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 08:01 PM

Thanks. The temp does get up there. I can solve that and bring them inside. But light/dark are difficult. I think my solution might be to put them into the ice chest and leave them inside. Some of the closets get over 80 but we keep the house about 75 f. Whats this mono tube thing? Last time just placed the cakes on moist perilite in a clear tub, misted daily 1x to 3x and maybe produced a 1/2 oz dried. The Golden Teacher.

In my youth we boiled the mushrooms down to a goo. I read that over 200 f you lose a lot. It occured to me looking back that once the water started boiling we turn the temp to low and simmered at likey 175 - 190 f was the cooking temp. The potency of a tablespoon was equal to eating 7 dried. We did several shots in a large tumblers with Delware Punch concertrate and ice. Some just tossed it back. But my buddy would hold a gun on me tell I drank mine than I held it on him :-) First time I listen to The Wall I drank about 6 shots, laid back in the grass on the bank of a bayou. 6 hours later I returned from flying with the bats over the water. Listing to Pink Floyd on a eight track.

Any way I like to try that again. Then a guy had a method of cooking them in a pressure cooker. A heavy thick dough like stuff came out and then it was rolled in wax paper, allowed to dry and then sliced. Good but don't remember the how. Anyone?

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:57 PM

I'm not familiar with any prep methods involving a pressure cooker. 

A visit to the Cookbook section might yield some interesting ideas. 

 

You ask about a monotub - it's basically the setup you described in the next sentence - with a catchy name attached. ;) 

Best of luck with your decision on where to make the next attempt. 



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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:08 PM

Recent bio assays of anecdotal reports is that the heat has to pretty high for extended periods of time for the magic to start degrading significantly. Again,these are anecdotal reports. So I wouldn’t really think running them through a pressure cooker would be wise,unless you have enough material to not care to lose and did an experiment. Especially if you posted such experiments here on topic for us all to share




Do you have any sort of reason you don’t want to use high strength alcohol to make an extract?

So many benefits to that tek. First on the list is the preservation of the magic.

Water based extract,even when simmered down to goo,are subject to bacteria. Obviously not a concern if consuming right away,but I assume some bacteria can be pretty nasty or dangerous to you health and well being,and if you plan to store it for a period of time,can be a concern.

The alcohol will preserve the magic for years to come,and has the awesome benefit of never allowing one of these bacteriae to infect your extract.

Also at a time you find yourself with a nice surplus,you can easily make a really large amount of pretty much any concentration you choose,and have it as a go to for astral projection or spirit walks or however you choose to expand your mind.

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Posted 19 July 2018 - 10:34 PM

welcome, and geeze, such massive hauls  luck you down there, though our part of Australia is a cube paradise in summer



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 06:59 PM

Suppositly times flys when you are having fun. It also flys when you are not having so much fun. I think it has to do with the realizatio that the old I get the faster time flies. Seems like we need some sort of physics here. My mass has double since those long eternal summers of childhood.but vilocity has deminished but time moves faster/ Why Oh Why.

All that to say I'm back. Since last two syrnges of spores, Z and Koh for Thailand, were injected into 8 jars. Two jars got a lot, a slip on the plunger. One got a little of the two. They are looking good. I think the area is not warm enough. They are in a styrophome ice chest wrap in  a black plastic bag in an inside closet. the house doen't get over 80 f. What has developed in a 10 days is fine looking and heavy. One jar is 1/2 colonized and one shows some nice thick areas forming on top. The others are in between. To heat up the inside should I leave the box open over night in the garage. Around 85 at night with at least 60% humidity.

I have a clear plastic bin with 7 to ten 3/16 holes. On the bottom I place perilite about 4 inches thick. I cut squares of aluminum foil for the cakes to sit on. The perilite is wet but no puddling of water. I mist several times a day. The light is difused and filter through the outside door. At night I close the door. Keeping humidity up is a problem. The outside humidity maybe 70% and temp 100. The garage gets over 120 but have fans circulating air. But the wind and heat suck up the moisture. I can get pumps and misters and automate the hell out of the chamber. But I ain't! I was thinking in the corners or in the center placing a 1/4 pint jar with water plus the misting. The misting worked alright but did not get the yield.

Now for the big questions. One of the jars has a thick while top half but right below that the area is bluish. Psyli blue now not a sickly moldy blue. All well? I bet it is one of the over juiced jars. Can I break the cake up after dunking? If so what do I do?

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:02 PM

I remember the days like that. I grew up on the gulf coast too, outside of Brazoria TX (recently they discovered a new addition to the spectrum of psychoactive fungi there and it is supposed to be a doosey) where the cube is king. I can attest to the abundance there. a select few of us would venture out to find the unknown and secret patches that we all kept secret from everyone. with flashlight in hand and grocery sacks tucked away we would sneak into the early morning mist to bring back what would save our friends from a lame weekend in a very dull town. Only once did I ever bring someone to a field I had used, he claimed he was an expert picker, and we both went on opposite side of the field. I always ate as I picked saving the freshest ones for myself and eating as many as I dared. I did this for two reasons, I hate mushroom tea and large caps. I would wash the small caps down with iced tea (sweet of course) as I picked. When we met up at the truck as the morning dew was burning off, I looked at his grocery sack. I could not believe my eyes. He had picked a whole bag of death caps. Being a very arrogant person he denied they were death caps and insisted mine were poisonous and his were not. I simply told him that I would not be having any of his and would continue to eat mine. I then picked out a fine young specimen and plopped it down the hatch. I told him if he were so sure of himself he could have my drink to wash his down with. Being very defeated he asked me "so, what exactly are you looking for when picking these"? I obviously tried to show him the things I look for and the things to avoid. We had a great weekend and a great party with 20 or so friends and no one got sick or died. Picking wild mushrooms is very dangerous and I did have a friend get the one bad bad cap when i was learning at the age of fourteen he was older and the one who was picking too. He messed up and spent several days in the hospital. Our parents were not impressed. I refuse to forage in fields I am not extremely familiar with. Be safe out there. All it takes is one bad cap to destroy your liver and kidneys.



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Posted 08 August 2018 - 02:46 PM

Always went in the daylight. Usually the fields would still be damp with dew and around the patties 5 plus inches high grass. Each patty would have a at least 3 big mushrooms. We would only get the caps. With a thousand plus head of cattle the pickin was shamelessly easy. Now there are house and streets where we had fields to pick. The only cattle left are for show or breeding and tend to be over medicated. No shrooms in those new areas.

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 09:30 PM

In my mono tub can I hook up an aquarium pump to a bowl of water inside the tub to increase humidity? Run all the time or periods through the day? Any ideas? Doc



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Posted 15 August 2018 - 05:19 AM

These days we use a layer of moist perlite several inches thick.  You'll have all the humidity you need.



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Posted 20 August 2018 - 12:09 PM

I have 8 jars each one is at a different place. A couple are completely white, one about a third and the rest over half way. A couple are beginning to show pinheads but have not finished inoculating. Remember several jars were over inoculated. What problems occur when you put too much solution in  a jar? Should I wait till all the jars are ready? When a jar is finished and ready to cake should I dunk over night? Can I break the cakes up or in half? Would breaking them up produce more?

 

This has nothing to do with shrooms. I was making a tincture of weed. The process of evaporation was going a little slow so I turned up the temp under the double boiler. I forgot and the next thing I heard was a crack pop. Looked and all the water was gone and the bottom pot was extremely hot. I tried to remove the 1/4 pint jar put the jar broke. The contents poured into the bottom pot with a whoosh of alcohol that should have ignited. The kitchen sink had water and I just put the bottom half of the pot in the water. I was sure all was lost. What was left was just past the sticky gooey paste phase, kind of moist powder. I scraped the pan. From 2 oz of mid to three grams of this stuff. It is an amazing smoke. Doubt I could ever reproduce the process. The cost of experimenting is not something I want to waste. I make meds for my wife and was going to make some lozenges.






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