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#81 CatsAndBats

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 09:30 AM

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Upon further inspection, it's on more of the cactus than I saw earlier and one san pedro has it or similar discoloration.

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 09:32 AM

I have broached this topic in the past and never received a definitive response... Excluding Cacti, does anyone know which succulents are dog safe? Specifically succulents that will thrive in temperate climates.

 

Sorry for the thread jack but I thought this was close enough to being on topic.

 

You can always post on my threads. There aren't any dog safe succulents that I know of. I've done a deep dive (internet) and couldn't find any that are safe.



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Posted 11 March 2019 - 09:33 AM

I have broached this topic in the past and never received a definitive response... Excluding Cacti, does anyone know which succulents are dog safe? Specifically succulents that will thrive in temperate climates.

Excluding cacti, pretty much all succulents are safe as far as toxicity, except any of the euphorbias. Most will tolerate a light frost if they are not dehydrated. A harder frost (-30) can damage some leaves, but the main core plant is fine and will regenerate. Thicker leaved plants like aloes and large rosette formations can take more cold as long as it is not prolonged.....

 

Cats, I too want to see what the brown shmutz looks like.........



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Posted 11 March 2019 - 09:38 AM

 

I have broached this topic in the past and never received a definitive response... Excluding Cacti, does anyone know which succulents are dog safe? Specifically succulents that will thrive in temperate climates.

 

Sorry for the thread jack but I thought this was close enough to being on topic.

 

You can always post on my threads. There aren't any dog safe succulents that I know of. I've done a deep dive (internet) and couldn't find any that are safe.

 

 

 

 

I have broached this topic in the past and never received a definitive response... Excluding Cacti, does anyone know which succulents are dog safe? Specifically succulents that will thrive in temperate climates.

Excluding cacti, pretty much all succulents are safe as far as toxicity, except any of the euphorbias. Most will tolerate a light frost if they are not dehydrated. A harder frost (-30) can damage some leaves, but the main core plant is fine and will regenerate. Thicker leaved plants like aloes and large rosette formations can take more cold as long as it is not prolonged.....

 

Cats, I too want to see what the brown shmutz looks like.........

 

 

 

I have two guys I respect throwing out very different responses.... 



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Posted 11 March 2019 - 10:02 AM

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Upon further inspection, it's on more of the cactus than I saw earlier and one san pedro has it or similar discoloration.

 

 

 

I have broached this topic in the past and never received a definitive response... Excluding Cacti, does anyone know which succulents are dog safe? Specifically succulents that will thrive in temperate climates.

Excluding cacti, pretty much all succulents are safe as far as toxicity, except any of the euphorbias. Most will tolerate a light frost if they are not dehydrated. A harder frost (-30) can damage some leaves, but the main core plant is fine and will regenerate. Thicker leaved plants like aloes and large rosette formations can take more cold as long as it is not prolonged.....

 

Cats, I too want to see what the brown shmutz looks like.........

 

 

We posted at the same time.

 

 

 

 

 

PJ, skywatcher is way more versed in this field than I am. Listen to him. If you need heirloom tomato advice, I'm your guy (or cats).


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Posted 11 March 2019 - 10:39 AM

I don't see anything worth panicking over in the pics.

 

You'd expect to see that discoloration at the base just because of the light being interfered with by the stones at the base.

 

Higher than that and we start scrambling for an explanation.

 

Because the skin looks firm and sound I'll guess there's no reason for concern until it looks worse.

 

If it were looking weepy or weak or somehow opening up we'd talk about cutting and putting sulfur or cinnamon on it. But not now.


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Posted 11 March 2019 - 11:08 AM

I have broached this topic in the past and never received a definitive response... Excluding Cacti, does anyone know which succulents are dog safe? Specifically succulents that will thrive in temperate climates.
 
Sorry for the thread jack but I thought this was close enough to being on topic.


Damn that is a good question, i guess your best method would be, start with the type of succulent you have, and do the best i.d. you can, the. Google the hell out of it to see what type of chemical structures have been determined to be inside.
Hope that helps..

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Posted 11 March 2019 - 06:38 PM

PJ,

I'm going to apologise and stand corrected. Euphorbias I knew about, but never realized that many succulents can cause nausea or worse. Gopher Spurge, and the orange coral like branched euphorbia are the worst, with the sap causing burning rash if it gets on skin.

I was able to find some better info here:

https://www.american...l-of-succulents

 

Which would be a good start point.


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Posted 11 March 2019 - 06:49 PM

Upon further inspection, it's on more of the cactus than I saw earlier and one san pedro has it or similar discoloration.

Cats, I agree with pharmer that it is not a cause for panic.

I am going to add that I see the same skin separation at times on areas of my trichs, that does not seem to spread or cause any issues. I perhaps incorrectly always assumed it was a type of reaction to sunburn, or a protective reaction to insulate the internal structure from environmental stress points, but I don't know this for sure.

 

I see it much more often on the pedros growing at the river house in the desert, and most aways on the sun side.


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Posted 11 March 2019 - 08:21 PM

 

Upon further inspection, it's on more of the cactus than I saw earlier and one san pedro has it or similar discoloration.

Cats, I agree with pharmer that it is not a cause for panic.

I am going to add that I see the same skin separation at times on areas of my trichs, that does not seem to spread or cause any issues. I perhaps incorrectly always assumed it was a type of reaction to sunburn, or a protective reaction to insulate the internal structure from environmental stress points.

 

 

 

I'm not prone to panicking. :tongue:


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Posted 08 April 2019 - 11:18 PM

nice thread CatsAndBats

 

was an inspiration to see you do well with these so far, without being an expert at cactus

 

I have some from seed going at the moment, various Trichs... my L. williamsii didn't pop though, gonna try again with those

 

new to all this stuff, so cheers for the boost in morale. I might be able to make it work yet lol

 

happy growing


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Posted 14 June 2019 - 01:34 AM

recently read that coconut water suppose encourage pupping on trichocereus



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Posted 28 June 2019 - 11:33 AM

Hi guys! Would love some input or any observations on the status of my cacti gang.

 

 

 

 

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So this guy never developed roots and the pup is just cannibalizing the cutting.

 

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This hasn't changed much, but I won't worry unless y'all tell me to. :biggrin:

 

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If I remember correctly, the one on the left does have roots, but the pup is still doing better than the original cut. On right, same as top photo, no root growth and the pup is cannibalizing the cutting (If I'm remembering correctly).

 

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Here's a wider shot of the fellas. :thumbs_up:

 

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Here's the original san pedro, he's kicking ass in straight coir, so I'm not messing with him. He built! I swear he grew during winter about 6" and he's on pace for a foot+ this summer!

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Posted 28 June 2019 - 04:27 PM

So is it possible that the pups will out live the cuttings? I dipped that top one in rooting hormones, haven't checked it yet. I try not to mess with them too much.



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Posted 28 June 2019 - 04:32 PM

nice thread CatsAndBats

 

was an inspiration to see you do well with these so far, without being an expert at cactus

 

I have some from seed going at the moment, various Trichs... my L. williamsii didn't pop though, gonna try again with those

 

new to all this stuff, so cheers for the boost in morale. I might be able to make it work yet lol

 

happy growing

 

Thanks man! Appreciate it.

 

 

recently read that coconut water suppose encourage pupping on trichocereus

 

Got links? Hi phungi!



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Posted 28 June 2019 - 04:38 PM

Looking pretty darn good Cat.

The pups on the cuttings are doing fine. The base of the new growth is slightly below soil level, so the pups themself can develop their own roots if they need. If it seems at some point that the cutting they are growing from is spent, You can pull them and let them start rooting on their own.

Don't give up on those small cuttings growing some roots. I have an Icaros I got as a very small, 3/4" diameter and 1"or slightly more tall topped plant. It produced pups that are separated now, and the largest is 18" tall and about 4"wide at the thickest. The original cutting has produced about 4 big pups, and presently has 2 more new ones getting started. My point is that good things can come from a poor small cutting with a will to produce.....

 

The pedro with the skin issue looks fine. It could have been sunburn or another environmental condition that caused it, but it seems to have healed and the damaged area is not likely to change now.


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Posted 28 June 2019 - 04:55 PM

Looking pretty darn good Cat.

The pups on the cuttings are doing fine. The base of the new growth is slightly below soil level, so the pups themself can develop their own roots if they need. If it seems at some point that the cutting they are growing from is spent, You can pull them and let them start rooting on their own.

Don't give up on those small cuttings growing some roots. I have an Icaros I got as a very small, 3/4" diameter and 1"or slightly more tall topped plant. It produced pups that are separated now, and the largest is 18" tall and about 4"wide at the thickest. The original cutting has produced about 4 big pups, and presently has 2 more new ones getting started. My point is that good things can come from a poor small cutting with a will to produce.....

 

The pedro with the skin issue looks fine. It could have been sunburn or another environmental condition that caused it, but it seems to have healed and the damaged area is not likely to change now.

 

Thanks man.

 

What's a "Icaros"?

 

Bridgesii cover all the active columnar cacti? And Loph's are buttons like peyote?

 

I also read recently that one can graft a peyote button to a different cactus and it'll grow a ton faster:

 

 

"Here we will learn together the techniques of how to perform graft and make your cacti grow faster to get mature sooner then it natural process from the seed.

 

When grafting, it usually take 6 to 9 month to get mature plants and your cactus start blooming and may give you fruits.

The Pereskiopsis is a nice alternative for you, you don't need wait at least 3 to 5 years to get mature peyote when you can have it in few month with the pereskiopsis."

 

 

 

https://precious-cac...and-other-cacti

 

Wait is there a one stop shop for active cacti taxonomy?! I'm so confused. :tongue: 


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Posted 28 June 2019 - 07:21 PM

Grafting peyote is a great way to get them going fast!!
Hardest part is finding one !

Icaros is just a type of Peruvian torch
Very blue beautiful cactus alot of spirit.
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Posted 28 June 2019 - 07:22 PM

Trichocereus. Com or org.. i forget now. They have alot of information
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Posted 28 June 2019 - 07:25 PM

I lied its trichocereus . Net




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