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#1 candykid420

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 12:28 PM

Well, I left my light on and went to a friends house for the night. I'm doing Invitro, so I was giving my jars some light...unfortunately, I left the light on for 16+ hours. When I came home a couple cakes had yellow spots on them, and most had started to pin (the cakes were all 100% colonized). Could I have done damage to them by giving them this much light?

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 12:35 PM

I don't thik you did them damage by giving them
16 hours of light.

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 01:28 PM

No damage done. You could give them 16 hours of light every day from the time of innoculation and it would be fine. Actually, with invitro you wanna give em light from day one.

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 03:28 PM

All my bad boys see about 24hrs, it doesn't matter really. Unlike plants, mushrooms don't use light for energy, but to trigger pinning.

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 03:31 PM

Look out for a temprature increase when the light is on for long periods of time. Light wont hurt your cakes but heat will.

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 03:33 PM

The yellow spots are mushroom piss. Normal, and ok.

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 10:04 AM

I'm in agreement. Not too much light.

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 11:01 AM

If you're running light for long periods use flourescent, you don't want to generate a lot of heat. A very small bar is all you need.

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 11:03 AM

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Could I have done damage to them by giving them this much light?<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
no
light [other than direct sunlight] is perfectly harmless, it's only effect is to trigger pinning
and orient the growing shrooms
sunlight is only harmful if it's too hot
indirect sunlight is also harmless

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 11:13 AM

I love light. It's one of my favorite topics. Dig on what Hippie said about sunlight - sunlight can be the best light with how strong it is and with so many lumens but one must be careful about heat. My jars sit in a spot where they recieve a natural light with direct sunlight hitting them for a few hours a day; back last summer when I dumped a contaminated casing in my back yard I had it friut better just laying on grass than I did with my other casings in my chamber. MH and HPS are interesting things to get into, as well, but similar to sunlight one must be wary of heat - I think Rodger had great success with MH with only a half hour of light and 23.5 hours of darkness. Hope I'm not misquoting that.

The real deal with light and cubensis is pretty simple: when they get light they barely need any and when they have darkness they like it absolute; 24 hours of darkness or 24 hours of light is bad for any extended period of time, and when one is making light cycles it is best to be longer on the dark than the light.

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 11:17 AM

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24 hours of darkness or 24 hours of light is bad for any extended period of time<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
that's debateable, imo.
any evidence to support it ?


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Posted 07 February 2005 - 11:25 AM

My grow room sees 24 hours of light. My mushies are exposed to all sorts of light, mainly CFL's which are on 24/7. When I open my MJ flower chamber or veg the mushies are exposed to MH and HPS lights indirectly for at least a couple hours a day. Really the only light my casings need, is the light I use to see to tend to them. The only reason I shine the CFL on them is because I am keeping my MJ clones in with my mushies (in the greenhouse).

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 09:08 PM

On one terrarium I use lights that are made for keeping corals. They are rich in light in the blue spectrum. (50/50 actinics and 7,000k)

Blue light seems to trigger a better pinset. I think this is because the blue spectrum can penetrate further into the casing and cause primordia to start forming a little lower in the casing layer. ( and more evenly )

My regular cycle is 16 hours on, 8 hours off.

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 09:39 PM

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Blue light seems to trigger a better pinset. I think this is because the blue spectrum can penetrate further into the casing and cause primordia to start forming a little lower in the casing layer. ( and more evenly ) <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>


Dude, Light is light when you talking about mushrooms. Why do people take such simple things and turn them into something difficult? As long as it is not light from a black light, you should have the same results. You don't need a set schedule. As long as they get light They're fine. As a matter of fact, I recall reading a post from Hippie (at least I think it was him) stating that he read somewhere that a scientist was performing an experiment, and was able to initiate pinning from just a millisecond of light from a strobe.

Reefer, please do not take this post personally. It is just very annoying to me when people try to make themselves sound over technical. It's not rocket science...

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 09:55 PM

Those short blue wavelengths are helpfull in keeping surface contams down and appear to prolong the life and health of my casings ...I like to provide as much bright daylight as possible...
That plus fresh air is proly why a lost grow can regenerate in the great outdoors...

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 10:03 PM

I believe that it is true that the blue spectrum of light is better for the mushrooms.

Not needed of course, but they could respond better to it. What may work, and even work well, isn't always what works best.

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 05:42 AM

it might be my imagination but i seem to have seen an improvement in my mushroom height since putting a 60watt bulb above then....now they all point upwards and look much better than in just indirect sunlight....it also keeps the temp just right....it goes on when i wake up and off when i sleep

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 10:08 AM

"Dude, Light is light when you talking about mushrooms. Why do people take such simple things and turn them into something difficult? As long as it is not light from a black light, you should have the same results. You don't need a set schedule. As long as they get light They're fine. As a matter of fact, I recall reading a post from Hippie (at least I think it was him) stating that he read somewhere that a scientist was performing an experiment, and was able to initiate pinning from just a millisecond of light from a strobe."

While I agree that any light will work, (except blacklight) I do not agree that all light will work equally. I've seen too much proof to the contrary. I'm not saying you need blue light at all. All I'm saying is that there seems to be a noticeable difference between the pinsets in the terrarium with blue light and the one without.

"Not needed of course, but they could respond better to it. What may work, and even work well, isn't always what works best."

This is so true.

" It is just very annoying to me when people try to make themselves sound over technical. "

Get over it. Whats so technical about using a light thats similar to their natural environment? If you don't agree with me then don't try it.

"It's not rocket science..."

No, but whats wrong with trying something that's not part of the "standard" procedure? Thats how people get better, by experimenting and trying stuff out. I appreciate it when someone shares something thats working for them.

I know you said not to take it personally, but you're post was kinda rude. This isn't the shroomery.

"This is what I do" does not mean the same thing as "This is what you should do"



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Posted 08 February 2005 - 10:13 AM

"I believe that it is true that the blue spectrum of light is better for the mushrooms. "

Glad someone agrees. Posted Image

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 10:50 AM

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All I'm saying is that there seems to be a noticeable difference between the pinsets in the terrarium with blue light and the one without. <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

i'd like to see anyone prove that to be true.
in fact i'd offer a reward to anyone
who undertook such a project.





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