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Monsanto/Bayer Fines Still Not Outweighing Profits While Biodiversity Suffers Huge Losses


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Posted 04 September 2018 - 11:29 AM

So Monsanto, bought by Bayer awhile back, killed off most of the insects (and therefore the birds are also disappearing in record numbers) in Europe, Roundup poison is causing cancer worldwide and still, these record fines dont make a dent in their huge profits from monopoly practices that may inevitably destroy us all.  

 

Insect and bird populations declining dramatically in Germany

Two separate studies highlight a dramatic trend in Germany: the number of flying insects has declined by 76 percent over the past 27 years. There are 15 percent fewer birds than just twelve years ago.

https://www.dw.com/en/insect-and-bird-populations-declining-dramatically-in-germany/a-41030897

Pesticides Have Led to a ‘Catastrophic’ Decline in France’s Bird Populations The chemicals have decimated the insects that birds rely on for food


https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/pesticides-have-led-catastrophic-decline-frances-bird-populations-180968562/

Pesticides Have Led to a ‘Catastrophic’ Decline in France’s Bird Populations The chemicals have decimated the insects that birds rely on for food

 

Sixty-eight percent of meadow pipits have disappeared from the French countryside. (Zambog/Wikimedia Commons)

In 1962, the environmentalist Rachel Carson published her seminal book Silent Springwhich exposed the devastating effects of DDT, a powerful pesticide, on humans and wildlife alike. “We spray our elm trees,” Carson wrote, “and the following springs are silent of robin song.”

 

Many countries have since banned DDT, but scientists in France are now warning that the country is once again facing a “silent spring.” As the Agence France-Presse reports, two studies found that bird populations in the French countryside have plummeted over the past 17 years—an alarming trend that can likely be attributed to the pervasive use of pesticides.

http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2017/10/decimated-germanys-birds-disappear-as.html

The Same Pesticides Linked to Bee Declines Might Also Threaten Birds

Neonicotinoids are washing off of their host seeds and into water bodies—threatening not just aquatic insects but the birds that rely on them.

https://www.audubon.org/magazine/spring-2017/the-same-pesticides-linked-bee-declines-might

 

Chemical giant Monsanto ordered to pay 252 million Euro fine in California cancer trial

http://www.euronews.com/2018/08/11/chemical-giant-monsanto-ordered-to-pay-cancer-damages

Glyphosate is the world's most common weedkiller. The World Health Organisation reported that it is "probably carcinogenic to humans," but despite that finding, the European Commission recently granted the substance another five-year licence.

 

 

Bayer shares plunge after Roundup hit with $289M lawsuit over cancer link

 

Bayer shares plunged as much as 14 per cent on Monday, losing about $14 billion in value, after newly acquired Monsanto was ordered to pay $289 million in damages in the first of possibly thousands of U.S. lawsuits over alleged links between a weedkiller and cancer.

After the verdict in favour of a California school groundskeeper with terminal cancer, Monsanto faces more than 5,000 similar lawsuits across the United States over claims it did not warn of the cancer risks of glyphosate-based weedkillers, including its Roundup brand.

 

Monsanto, bought by Bayer this year for $63 billion, said that it would appeal against the jury's verdict in California, which is the latest episode in a long-running debate over claims that exposure to Roundup can cause cancer.

The case by plaintiff Dewayne Johnson, filed in 2016, was fast-tracked for trial due to the severity of his non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, a cancer of the lymph system that he alleges was caused by Roundup and Ranger Pro, another Monsanto glyphosate herbicide.

"The jury's verdict is at odds with the weight of scientific evidence, decades of real world experience and the conclusions of regulators around the world that all confirm glyphosate is safe and does not cause non-Hodgkin's lymphoma," Bayer said in a statement.

Having closed the Monsanto takeover, Bayer is only awaiting the approval of some final antitrust-related asset sales before folding it into its own organisation. It did not negotiate any payments from Monsanto shareholders for Roundup-related litigation. Bayer shares were on track to close at their lowest in almost five years.

Barclays analysts said Bayer was in for a "litigious headache". "Whilst an appeal is certain and may indeed likely result in the penalty being moderated at a minimum if not reversed altogether, a large number of similar pending cases will now likely multiply."

Berenberg analyst Alistair Campbell said resolving the issue could cost Bayer $5 billion, citing a rough estimate based on a past product liability settlements such as Merck & Co Inc's $4.9 billion settlement over painkiller Vioxx or Bayer's $4.2 billion total settlement over the Baycol cholesterol drug.

The controversy could also affect future revenues. Genetically modified (GM) crops that withstand glyphosate are a main source of cash for Monsanto, mainly generated in North and South America, where the technology is widely accepted. The health worries could further darken the outlook for a product category following the emergence of weeds that have grown resistant to the herbicide.

"We think the risk of withdrawal is extremely low, but if it materialised it would be a major blow to the transaction value paid for the company," said Berenberg's Campbell.

Discovered by the Monsanto chemist John E. Franz in 1970, patent-free glyphosate herbicides are now sold by the global crop protection industry despite the dispute over its safety.

The U.S. court ruling caught many Bayer investors off guard as no hard evidence of a causal link to cancer had been produced so far.

The World Health Organization's (WHO) cancer arm in 2015 classified glyphosate as "probably carcinogenic to humans", but the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in September 2017 concluded a decades-long assessment of glyphosate risks and found the chemical was not likely carcinogenic to humans.

A Reuters report in October showed that the WHO's cancer agency dismissed and edited findings from a draft of its review of glyphosate that were at odds with its final conclusion that the chemical probably causes cancer. In Europe, the EU Commission in December drew criticism for renewing the licence for glyphosate.

Germany and France have meanwhile taken steps to phase out use of the weedkiller.

The U.S. case may prompt some retailers to curb sales of Roundup products. Homebase, one of Britain's largest home and garden improvement retailers, is reviewing the sale of glyphosate-containing products in the light of the jury's decision, a spokeswoman said.

Glyphosate-exposed stocks also plunged in Asia and particularly in Australia where a withering drought has already hit herbicide sales. Australian chemical maker Nufarm Ltd, which Macquarie Bank analysts estimate earns about a fifth of its revenue from glyphosate-based products, plunged almost 17 per cent to a more than two-year low. Its top shareholder, Japan's Sumitomo Chemical Co Ltd , shed 3 per cent, while Australian rural services firm Elders Ltd, which retails herbicides, fell 11 per cent.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bayer-monsanto-roundup-1.4783530

Monsanto has agreed to be sold to Bayer for $56.5 billion − a deal worth a total of $66 billion when Monsanto’s debt is taken into account. The combined company would be the world’s largest seller of both seeds and agrichemicals.

Monsanto, arguably the most loathed GMO company on the face of the earth, has been the subject of heated discussions for decades, especially in recent days as their top-selling product (RoundUp) contains glyphosate, which has been linked to cancer, autism, and respiratory sickness.

 

Monsanto has lobbied widely and even filed lawsuits to prohibit labeling of GMO products and bury the World Health Organization’s report listing glyphosate as a probable carcinogen. If Monsanto joins forces with Bayer (one of the most hated Big Pharma companies in the world), the resulting “marriage made in hell” would be a drug-seed-pesticide company that controls almost 1/3 of the world’s seed market and almost ¼ of the pesticide market. Many would argue that this would equate to a monopoly. More on that topic later in the article.

largest seller of both seeds and agrichemicals.

Monsanto, arguably the most loathed GMO company on the face of the earth, has been the subject of heated discussions for decades, especially in recent days as their top-selling product (RoundUp) contains glyphosate, which has been linked to cancer, autism, and respiratory sickness.

Monsanto has lobbied widely and even filed lawsuits to prohibit labeling of GMO products and bury the World Health Organization’s report listing glyphosate as a probable carcinogen. If Monsanto joins forces with Bayer (one of the most hated Big Pharma companies in the world), the resulting “marriage made in hell” would be a drug-seed-pesticide company that controls almost 1/3 of the world’s seed market and almost ¼ of the pesticide market. Many would argue that this would equate to a monopoly. More on that topic later in the article.

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But this would not be the first time Monsanto and Bayer have teamed up. During the Vietnam War, both firms were involved in the development of Agent Orange. And both firms are currently involved in the GMO market today. Speaking of GMOs, I was watching Fox News Channel a couple of days ago and the “expert” being interviewed said that this was necessary in order to feed the world and that GMO foods are the only solution. WRONG!

Apparently said “expert” is unfamiliar with the recent research, specifically the IAASTD Report, which is the most comprehensive report on the future of food and agriculture (sponsored by the World Bank and the UN, written by over 400 scientists and endorsed by 59 countries).

In this report, they did not endorse GMOs as a solution to world hunger. In addition, genetic engineering has not significantly increased U.S. crop yields, according to the USDA and controlled comparative studies. As a matter of fact, many GMOs have lower yields than non-GMO crops. Did I mention that GMO crops have been linked to cancer and have numerous potential health risks?

Let’s look at the sordid history of both of these companies…

A Brief History of BAYER

• Founded in Barmen, Germany in 1863 by Friedrich Bayer and his partner, Johann Friedrich Weskott.

• During World War 1, Bayer turned its attention to the manufacture of chemical weapons including chlorine gas.

• In 1925, Bayer, BASF, and Hoechst merged to form the massive German conglomerate Interessengemeinschaft Farben (IG Farben) which was the single biggest donor to Hitler’s election campaign.

• IG Farben built the concentration camps at Auschwitz to supply slave labor for the nearby IG Farben plant (also known as IG Auschwitz). Hitler eventually used these same camps in his megalomaniacal attempt to exterminate the Jewish race.

• In 1941, Otto Armbrust, the IG Farben board member responsible for IG Farben’s Auschwitz project, told his colleagues, “our new friendship with the SS is a blessing. We have determined all measures integrating the concentration camps to benefit our company.”

• A subsidiary of IG Farben manufactured and supplied Zyklon B to the SS. This poisonous cyanide-based pesticide, on which IG Farben held the patent, was used during the Holocaust to annihilate more than 1,000,000 people in the concentration/extermination camps. IG Farben also supplied the SS with the Methanol used to burn the corpses.

• In 1946, the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal concluded that without IG Farben the Second World War would simply not have been possible.

• At Nuremberg, Fritz ter Fritz-ter-Meer-Bayer.jpgMeer (an executive of IG Farben) was convicted of slavery, mass murder, and crimes against humanity. After serving 5 years in prison, he became Chairman of the Board at Bayer in 1956, a position which he held for almost a decade.

• In 1962, just fifteen years after they were convicted in the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal, Bayer, BASF and Hoechst were again the architects of the next major human rights offence when they established the Codex Alimentarius Commission.

• In the mid-1980s, Bayer was one of the companies which sold a product called Factor VIII concentrate to treat hemophilia. Factor VIII turned out to be infected with HIV. After learning that the product was contaminated, in order to save money, Bayer continued selling this infected product to Asia and Latin America even though a safe product was available. Dr. Sidney M. Wolfe, who investigated the scandal, commented, “These are the most incriminating internal pharmaceutical industry documents I have ever seen.”

• In the 1990s, the federal government launched an investigation on Bayer’s unethical billing practices on Medicaid program and the Department of Justice found Bayer guilty of fraud. Bayer had to pay $14 Million to settle charges of causing inflated Medicaid claims.

Michelle-Pfleger-1.jpg• Yaz (approved by FDA in 2006) and Yasmin (2001) were revolutionary birth control pills that use a synthetic hormone called drospirenone (DSP). Yaz or Yasmin have led to hundreds of deaths in young and healthy women.

• The drug Trasylol was banned in 2006 after it contributed to thousands of deaths in patients every single month for over a decade. After a 2006 study showed widespread deaths associated with Trasylol, it took FDA and Bayer almost two years to take the drug off of the market. Later on it was revealed that Bayer had buried evidence of Trasylol’s severe side effects.

• In 2008, the German Coalition against Bayer brought a charge against the Bayer Board of Management, with the public prosecutor in Freiburg accusing Bayer of contributing to the mass death of bees all over the world through its aggressive pesticide marketing. Since then, the bee debacle has only grown worse, with thousands of hives collapsing after poisoning by the pesticide clothianidin, producing a worldwide crisis.

Thanks to this website and this website for much of the above information.

MONSANTO’S Poisonous Past

• Monsanto was founded in 1901 in St. Louis, Missouri, by John Francis Queeny, a 30-year veteran of the pharmaceutical industry. Its first product was the artificial sweetener Saccharin, which Monsanto sold to the Coca-Cola Company.

• In the 1920s, Monsanto Chemical Company was founded and incorporated the town of Monsanto, later renamed Sauget, Illinois. For years, the Monsanto plant in Sauget was the nation’s largest producer of polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), which were banned in the 1970s. PCBs are potent carcinogens and have been implicated in reproductive, developmental and immune system disorders. According to thousands of pages of released Monsanto documents (many of them emblazoned with warnings such as “CONFIDENTIAL: Read and Destroy”), they knew about the PCB dangers from early on, but decided to conceal what they knew. One Monsanto memo explains their justification: “We can’t afford to lose one dollar of business.”

• During World War II, Monsanto played a significant role in the Manhattan Project to develop the atom bomb.

• In 1944, Monsanto began manufacturing DDT, which was banned in 1972.

• Following World War II, Monsanto championed the use of chemical pesticides in agriculture, and began manufacturing the herbicide 2,4,5-T, which contains dioxin. During the Vietnam War, the U.S. military initiated an herbicidal warfare program using Agent Orange (a mixture of 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D and had very high concentrations of dioxin) as a defoliant.

agent_orange_march_veterans-for-peace.jpMonsanto and Dow Chemical were the two largest producers of Agent Orange, which has been linked to cancer and birth defects. According to the Vietnamese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, 4.8 million Vietnamese people were exposed to Agent Orange, resulting in 400,000 deaths and disabilities, plus 500,000 children born with birth defects, leading to calls for Monsanto to be prosecuted for war crimes. Internal Monsanto memos show that Monsanto knew of the problems of dioxin contamination of Agent Orange when it sold it to the U.S. government for use in Vietnam.

• In 1973, Monsanto developed and patented the glyphosate molecule and began manufacturing Roundup. In 2015, the World Health Organization declared glyphosate to be a probable carcinogen. Despite this fact, Roundup is still marketed as “safe.”

• In 1982, Monsanto genetically modified a plant cell for the first time.

• In the mid-1980s, Monsanto purchased G.D. Searle, the chemical company that held the patent to aspartame, the active ingredient in NutraSweet. Monsanto was apparently untroubled by aspartame’s clouded past, including a 1980 FDA Board of Inquiry, comprised of three independent scientists, which confirmed that it “might induce brain tumors.” The aspartame business became a separate Monsanto subsidiary, the NutraSweet Company.

• In the late-1980s and early-1990s, Monsanto spent almost $500,000 to defeat Proposition 65 (California’s anti-toxics initiative which prohibited the discharge of chemicals known to cause cancer or birth defects into drinking water supplies) and Proposition 128 (California’s pesticide regulation initiative that would have phased out Monsanto’s product alachlor, which is linked to cancer). During the same time period, Monsanto also conducted the first field tests of genetically engineered (GMO) crops.

• In 1991, Monsanto was fined $1.2 million for trying to conceal discharge of contaminated waste water into the Mystic River in Connecticut.

• In the mid-1990s, Monsanto developed their controversial cattle drug, recombinant bovine growth hormone (rBGH or rBST), which is produced through a genetically engineered E. coli bacteria.

• During the same time period, Monsanto was ranked 5th among U.S. corporations in EPA’s Toxic Release Inventory, having discharged 37 million pounds of toxic chemicals into the air, land, water and underground. Monsanto was ordered to pay $41.1 million to a waste management company in Texas due to concerns over hazardous waste dumping.

• In 1996, Monsanto introduced “Roundup Ready Soybeans” and “BT Cotton” then in 1998 “Roundup Ready Corn” was introduced.

• By 2007, Monsanto’s GMO seeds accounted for over 90% of the world’s supply.

• In 2010, former Monsanto lobbyist Michael R. Taylor was appointed as Deputy Commissioner of Food Safety at the FDA (the fox is guarding the henhouse).

• Since 2012, Monsanto has spent more than $25 million to fight state ballot initiatives to label GMOs and millions more to lobby Congress against mandatory GMO labeling.

Thanks to this website for much of the above information.

Bayer Monsanto Union: A Dark and Dangerous Threat

The above bullet points about Bayer and Monsanto are merely the tip of the iceberg. I could have written an entire book detailing the unscrupulous activities that these companies have engaged in over the past century. But I think you get the point. This “hidden” history of Bayer and Monsanto indicates that both of these companies have consistently been involved with malevolent endeavors that wreaked havoc on humanity and caused sickness, pain, and death on a massive scale. These companies are like a cancer eating away at the physical fabric of our world.

If these two companies join forces, the dark and dangerous synergy and malignant power will metastasize and be so great that, figuratively speaking, the universe might explode! To use a Lord of the Rings analogy, it would be like Sauron acquiring the One Ring.

Will this merger actually happen? It’s hard to say. Thankfully, there are anti-trust laws in place that will force the entire deal to undergo tremendous scrutiny and lengthy regulatory processes in the USA as well as the EU. “This merger is not a slam dunk,” said Diana Moss, president of the American Antitrust Institute. Also, a legal opinion written by two former Department of Justice officials (Antitrust Division) argues that the merger would violate the Clayton Act and would also be in direct violation of a 2008 court order.

March-Against-Monsanto.jpgA Bayer-Monsanto merger certainly threatens the world food supply with domination by GMOs and destructive, carcinogenic agrochemicals. Thanks primarily to the anti-GMO and “Millions Against Monsanto” movements, the behemoth biotech bully is on the ropes.

Perhaps Monsanto thinks that if it changes its name, that we will forget its poisonous past. Think again Monsanto.

On October 14-16, Monsanto’s crimes against humanity will be exposed at the Monsanto Tribunal in The Hague, Netherlands.

Remember, all it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. We must stick together and help educate our neighbors in order to continue the good fight together… for our children and every future generation to come.

Perhaps it’s time to put Bayer and Big Pharma on trial as well and build an even bigger worldwide unified assembly. Maybe we could call it “Billions Against Big Pharma and Bayer-Monsanto.”

https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/bayer-monsanto/


Edited by riseabovethought, 04 September 2018 - 11:30 AM.

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Posted 04 September 2018 - 01:37 PM

I dont know...That ^ is just something I thought should be mentioned here.  I know it isnt very well put together, and its really just more of the same ad nauseum, but you get my point.  This Earth deserves better stewards.. This could have been heaven on Earth.  I love you crazy tree hugger mushroom head muthafuckas.


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Posted 04 September 2018 - 03:06 PM

If every person who becomes aware of the atrocities and makes a stand, it will impact this world. People think "what can I do by myself".. Well, it starts with one being actively aware of what they are buying. Purchase power is how we make a difference. They may not hear our voices, but they choke on our refusing to buy their bullshit. And that gets their attention, I promise.


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Posted 04 September 2018 - 03:11 PM

The newest timber company to own most the land in these parts just sprayed upstream from our water source again last week.   Someone told a neighbor that the loggers were saying it was some kind of five year spray.   I guess the herbicides are getting better (for them).


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Posted 04 September 2018 - 05:13 PM

I believe Dow Chemical trying to bring agent orange ready crops to pair with agent orange herbicide kinda like the roundup ready crops?


https://m.huffpost.c...s/entry/4810311

Meet the New Monsanto: Dow Chemical... and Their New ‘Agent Orange’ Crops

If you’re like me, then you are probably overwhelmed with emails and articles opining on the evils of Monsanto — and for good reason. Monsanto is a chemical company that began genetically engineering seeds in order to sell more chemicals. The company’s business model is based on privatizing life, privatizing our genetic heritage (seeds), and poisoning the Earth. But did you know that Monsanto is just one of the major chemical players that have taken over our agriculture? Others include Syngenta, Bayer, DuPont, and BASF. Monsanto is corporate villain number one, providing PR cover for these other companies that do the same thing with far less public attention. That is about to change. There is one company that may even be worse than Monsanto. And unless we act soon, that company is going to start contaminating our farms and our food in ways we have never seen before. Meet the Dow Chemical company.

So how is Dow Chemical becoming the new Monsanto? As we all know, Monsanto has been the leader in producing genetically engineered pesticide-promoting crops (PPCs). By inserting bacterial DNA into corn and soy, Monsanto scientists were able to allow these plants to withstand massive spraying of their weed killer Roundup. Normally, if sprayed over the whole field, the weed killer would kill both the weeds and the crop, but now only the weeds perish and the GE crops survive. Monsanto aggressively promoted these crops, and large farmers adopted it because now they could conveniently spray their fields, even aerial spray, and not have to be careful with their herbicide use. It became convenient for large corn and soy farmers, and a boon for Monsanto as it began selling hundreds of millions more pounds of Roundup.

However, a predictable problem emerged. After a decade and a half of heavy use of these Roundup-promoting crops, many farmers began to see that Roundup was becoming less effective. It stopped killing the weeds. The weeds had adapted, and Roundup-resistant weeds were growing at an alarming rate. Farmers, increasingly desperate, began using more herbicides and mixing in more toxic herbicides. Soon, large conventional corn and soy growers realized that they needed an alternative to Roundup. That’s what Dow Chemical was waiting for. The company had genetically engineered new generations of GE corn and soybean varieties that are able to withstand spraying of 2,4-D. The big prize for Dow Chemical is to have their 2,4-D replace glyphosate as the go-to chemical of choice for these non-organic farmers. They only need approval from the USDA, approval that could come as early as March 2014.

2,4-D is far more toxic than Roundup. The chemical has been linked to non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, lowered sperm counts, liver disease, and Parkinson’s disease. Studies have also demonstrated the chemical’s adverse effects on hormonal, reproductive, neurological, and immune systems.

2,4-D is also the seventh largest source of dioxins in our environment. Dioxins are highly toxic chemical byproducts that can bioaccumulate, which means they can build up in your system, and our environment, over time. If Dow Chemical’s 2,4-D-tolerant corn and soy crops are approved by the USDA, hundreds of millions more pounds of this toxic chemical will be used on crops, with ever-increasing residues on our food.

Vietnam War veterans will recognize 2,4-D as half of the highly toxic mix that made up Agent Orange. Agent Orange was a defoliant used on the jungles and farm land of Vietnam, and veterans exposed to it suffer a wide range of illnesses, including cancer. The Vietnamese Red Cross estimates that nearly 1 million people have experienced health problems as a result of Agent Orange. It’s no surprise then that people are calling the Dow Chemical’s new crops “Agent Orange” corn and soy.

As the Vietnam experience shows, Dow Chemical is not a company that most people would choose to make a child’s breakfast. For most of its history, Dow Chemical sold products designed to kill. Founded in Midland, Mich., more than 100 years ago, the company made a name for itself mining brine and chlorine. Dow joined the war effort in World War I, building bombs and developing tear gasses. World War II was a boon for the company, and by the 1950s it was one of the largest chemical manufactures in the United States.

Dow Chemical is infamous for its wartime inventions. The company produced Dursban, napalm, and Agent Orange. They’ve done little to help the victims of the Bhopal chemical spill, even though they now own the company that was responsible for the disaster, Union Carbide Corporation.

Given their history in manufacturing deadly products used by the military, we should not be surprised that Dow Chemical is calling its new genetically engineered varieties “Enlist.” Unfortunately, those farmers that enlist in this new technology will be continuing a war against weeds that they cannot win. Just as weeds adapted to Roundup, they will adapt to 2,4-D. Farmers will be left with contaminated fields choked with weeds that they cannot kill. The public will have been subjected to toxic residues on their land, and contaminated water supplies. Only Dow Chemical comes out ahead, collecting billions in profits from selling millions of pounds of this toxic chemical and then simply moving on when it is no longer effective.

We have to stop Dow Chemical before this nightmare scenario becomes a reality.

It’s time for the food movement — organic producers, rural farming communities, urban foodies, chefs, parents, policy makers, and everyone who cares about the food they eat — to stop Dow Chemical and their “Agent Orange” crops. Dow has already destroyed our world enough


This is from 2014 but I live in the town where agent orange was made among many many other highly toxic compounds.

“Dow Chemical is infamous for its wartime inventions. The company produced Dursban, napalm, and Agent Orange. They’ve done little to help the victims of the Bhopal chemical spill, even though they now own the company that was responsible for the disaster, Union Carbide Corporation.”

Edited by coorsmikey, 04 September 2018 - 08:44 PM.
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Posted 04 September 2018 - 07:50 PM

Had to be negative about it. But the worst that's going to happen to round up is it will get a label that says may cause cancer. The only reason the case was lost by Monsanto is the fact that they claim it doesn't.

Also, round up is at end of life. Its losing its effectiveness as target plants develop resistance. The next thing in line is more toxic, and its already in use and causing problems.

It won't be agent orange though. Agent Orange was a blend. One of the chemicals used has been completely banned.
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Posted 04 September 2018 - 10:48 PM

Dicamba is the new thing. Already lawsuits out there. Not really new, but new for use on gmo crops. Also there is Dicamba Plus. Which adds 2 4 D. Almost agent orange.
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Posted 04 September 2018 - 10:51 PM

When I first moved here to the loggin' woods, they had just sprayed 245T and 24D at our headwaters.   That was 1973.


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Posted 04 September 2018 - 11:41 PM

Now that, was agent orange.
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Posted 05 September 2018 - 12:02 AM

Kind of like, "atoms for peace," eh.   Agent Orange for a better America.    My neighbor was pregnant when they sprayed that above us.   That son now has disorganized schizophrenia. 



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Posted 08 September 2018 - 02:32 PM

And is it any wonder that 'they' havent found a cure for cancer yet (apparently), or for AIDS, or for greed or for gluttony or for predatory capitalism?  I think we were already fucked decades ago and the writing is all over the walls in blood.  I wonder when we'll realize its all rigged and the 1% are the only potential beneficiaries of any cures.  Meanwhile almost every illnesses is caused by ag runoff and other pollutants so that same 1% reaping sick profits from sick people too poor for cures, dumps their waste in our drinking water.  Even dogs dont shit in their own bed.  My hope for humanity descends lower...


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Posted 26 January 2019 - 10:59 AM

I just heard that France has outlawed glyphosate.


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Posted 26 January 2019 - 06:00 PM

Monsanto is from missouri.  missouri recently approved medical mj......

 

let that sink in to your pipe!






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