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[Juthro]

That filter system has over a years worth of use on it now, and it is still supplying my cooking and drinking water on a daily basis without any problems. 

 

We probably run 2 or 3 gallons a day through it, and around two or three times that amount on days we are canning or brewing.

 

https://mycotopia.ne...y-water-filter/

Edited by Juthro, 16 October 2018 - 10:54 PM.

[coorsmikey]

I kind of figured the conversation here would be in line with our taking control of our medical / mental well being.

 

This whole forum is based with conversation of our medical/mental well being. It is an understatement to say that we that are participating in this thread and don't have that part figured out. But to help direct the conversation in the right direction, I will reiterate in the case of infrastructure failure I am well prepared as long as its not a Volcanic or worse disaster. Mostly to what I've learned here and continue too. When the OP starts with comments of oil lamps and wall heaters it leads to a different suggestion of topic. I do think "How are you prepared for ************** Medical/Mental well being wise?" would be a great topic!

Edited by coorsmikey, 16 October 2018 - 11:22 PM.

[onediadem]

I think that is a great idea. 

[SteampunkScientist]

Fat huh? Well, I store a bit of that as well.. and carry it with me wherever I go. 

[Alder Logs]

I'm not afraid to die, and give little thought to hypothetical threats, as there are too many that are too varied.   I do have, from old habit, Peterson's Field Guide to Edible Wild Plants.   If the nine point plus, overdue, subduction quake hits, I will probably have a hard time finding it in the wreckage of this cabin, if my body gets out of this better mousetrap alive and at all functional.   If the left edge of the continent subsides three hundred feet or more, I may very well be lost at sea for a time.   It will probably be cold, and I wouldn't like that much, but hey...  this is in Recreational Pursuits, eh?

Edited by Alder Logs, 17 October 2018 - 11:24 AM.

[SteampunkScientist]

That filter system has over a years worth of use on it now, and it is still supplying my cooking and drinking water on a daily basis without any problems. 

 

We probably run 2 or 3 gallons a day through it, and around two or three times that amount on days we are canning or brewing.

 

https://mycotopia.ne...y-water-filter/

 

 

By the way, for $157 USD you can get a combo of 2 Berkey Black filters with attachable Fluoride filters - highly recommended if you have city water. 

 

https://www.amazon.c...=8-4&ref=sr_1_4

[Juthro]

From a mental standpoint, the thought of 'the big one' bothered me some when I was living just outside of Hammond Oregon, right at the mouth of the Columbia river.  I was in an RV park right on the river bank, and when the big quake does hit, the bridges that you have to go over to get out of that tsunami zone will likely have been compromised.   

 

That entire area will be scoured clean by a large tsunami (so will the Long Beach Peninsula to the North), and if its caused by a big quake from the cascadia subduction zone, there will be no time for emergency aid to help evacuate before it happens.   I don't see the possibility of any survivors from that little NW corner of Oregon.  There are no hills to climb, and if the bridges are out its just a waiting game.

 

So what did I do? I moved to one of the most seismically active parts of the planet, within sight of two active volcanoes, lol.   I don't lose any of sleep over worrying about it, what will be, will be.  

 

[PJammer24]

From a mental standpoint, the thought of 'the big one' bothered me some when I was living just outside of Hammond Oregon, right at the mouth of the Columbia river.  I was in an RV park right on the river bank, and when the big quake does hit, the bridges that you have to go over to get out of that tsunami zone will likely have been compromised.   

 

That entire area will be scoured clean by a large tsunami (so will the Long Beach Peninsula to the North), and if its caused by a big quake from the cascadia subduction zone, there will be no time for emergency aid to help evacuate before it happens.   I don't see the possibility of any survivors from that little NW corner of Oregon.  There are no hills to climb, and if the bridges are out its just a waiting game.

 

So what did I do? I moved to one of the most seismically active parts of the planet, within sight of two active volcanoes, lol.   I don't lose any of sleep over worrying about it, what will be, will be.  

 

 

You could have taken cover in Fort George.... Fort Astoria...  I think I might be dating myself a little here... 

[Juthro]

 

From a mental standpoint, the thought of 'the big one' bothered me some when I was living just outside of Hammond Oregon, right at the mouth of the Columbia river.  I was in an RV park right on the river bank, and when the big quake does hit, the bridges that you have to go over to get out of that tsunami zone will likely have been compromised.   

 

That entire area will be scoured clean by a large tsunami (so will the Long Beach Peninsula to the North), and if its caused by a big quake from the cascadia subduction zone, there will be no time for emergency aid to help evacuate before it happens.   I don't see the possibility of any survivors from that little NW corner of Oregon.  There are no hills to climb, and if the bridges are out its just a waiting game.

 

So what did I do? I moved to one of the most seismically active parts of the planet, within sight of two active volcanoes, lol.   I don't lose any of sleep over worrying about it, what will be, will be.  

 

 

You could have taken cover in Fort George.... Fort Astoria...  I think I might be dating myself a little here... 

 

Lol, and there was a time I almost did live there.  They make some damn fine beer that I was sometimes overly fond of......

[PJammer24]

 

 

From a mental standpoint, the thought of 'the big one' bothered me some when I was living just outside of Hammond Oregon, right at the mouth of the Columbia river.  I was in an RV park right on the river bank, and when the big quake does hit, the bridges that you have to go over to get out of that tsunami zone will likely have been compromised.   

 

That entire area will be scoured clean by a large tsunami (so will the Long Beach Peninsula to the North), and if its caused by a big quake from the cascadia subduction zone, there will be no time for emergency aid to help evacuate before it happens.   I don't see the possibility of any survivors from that little NW corner of Oregon.  There are no hills to climb, and if the bridges are out its just a waiting game.

 

So what did I do? I moved to one of the most seismically active parts of the planet, within sight of two active volcanoes, lol.   I don't lose any of sleep over worrying about it, what will be, will be.  

 

 

You could have taken cover in Fort George.... Fort Astoria...  I think I might be dating myself a little here... 

 

Lol, and there was a time I almost did live there.  They make some damn fine beer that I was sometimes overly fond of......

 

 

Considering I was referring to the actual fort that was retired sometime in the mid 19th century and not the brewery.... You are REALLY dating yourself... or else it is some really old beer!

[Juthro]

The brewery is in on the old Fort Astoria site.   

 

https://fortgeorgebrewery.com/about/

[PJammer24]

The brewery is in on the old Fort Astoria site.   

 

https://fortgeorgebrewery.com/about/

 

I knew of the brewery but did't realize it was actually on the fort's site! That's super sweet!! Thank you for the historical tid bit! You made this historian smile!

[Alder Logs]

Until my doctor put me on the No Having Fun Diet, I always had a big keg of Fort George Vortex IPA in my fridge.   Funny, I always had more friends for company back then. 

 

Did I just see an admission that Juth is nothing but fall-away trailer trash? 

Edited by Alder Logs, 17 October 2018 - 03:55 PM.

[Juthro]

Until my doctor put me on the No Having Fun Diet, I always had a big keg of Fort George Vortex IPA in my fridge.   Funny, I always had more friends for company back then. 

 

Did I just see an admission that Juth is nothing but fall-away trailer trash? 

I'm alright with fall-away trash, I just didn't want to be float-away :)

[Juthro]

Here is a nice piece of kit that can store easily in your car, or in a emergency kit.

 

I love these kits, they run off of renewable, and safe (compared to pressurised petroleum stoves) unpressurised alcohol, and it will work in almost any inclement, or windy conditions (it's called the storm cooker for a reason).  They are also safe to use indoors with an adequate supply of combustion air, and they run virtually silent ( I hate the 'roar' of a pressurised gas burner).   It doesn't get as hot as most petroleum burners, but will still boil a quart of water in about 10 min, and it gets plenty hot enough to cook with.   

 

Another selling point for me is that unlike most other types of alcohol burners, this setup lets you use a simmer ring to control the heat output, for more controlled cooking.  That way you're not restricted to only boiling food in a bag, or rehydrating meals.

 

Edit:  sizes are 1.75 & 1.5 liter volume for the pots, and a .9 liter for the kettle.  The fry pan in 22 cm across.

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[Juthro]

I didn't think this subject needed it's own thread.  I think it will fit here nicely.

 

The question is, can you rely on your neighbor, and can your neighbor rely on you.  IMHO, true self sufficiency is an unobtainable goal for essentially everyone.  I do think there might be a few exceptions to this rule, but for all intensive purposes none of us by ourselves can provide all the skills, and materials we need to survive long term.   

 

I found a video on this subject that I found thought provoking, especial considering the global supply problems we've been having the last couple of years.   I think you'll find it worth a look.

 

 

 

[FLASHINGROOSTER]

I have watched more of that guys videos than I would like to admit. Something about that old timey stuff is attractive on a certain level I have yet to fully comprehend

 

Still dreaming about making that meat pie he did on the one episode

Edited by FLASHINGROOSTER, 24 September 2021 - 02:57 PM.

[Juthro]

I have watched more of that guys videos than I would like to admit. Something about that old timey stuff is attractive on a certain level I have yet to fully comprehend

 

Still dreaming about making that meat pie he did on the one episode

 

LOL, I enjoy his stuff as well, and have made a couple of his dishes :)  My favorite is mushroom ketchup.  I've only made it with store bought button mushrooms, but it is really good stuff...

[Juthro]

Another really good Townsends episode, this one is about storing and preserving with the seasons as a way of life, as opposed to the modern mentality of 'prepping'.   I think it is a very thoughtful take on the subject, and is presented in an articulate, and easy to listen to manner.

 

[Direct Link]

Edited by Juthro, 14 November 2021 - 10:03 PM.

[Juthro]

I thought I would share a couple of pieces of my preparedness kit with y’all. This is my Eco Zoom Versa two door rocket stove. I love this thing, it is just an awesome piece of kit. The beauty of the two door stoves, for those that aren’t familiar with them, is that they not only function as a biofuel/stick burner, which works very well for frying things in a skillet, or to quickly heat water, but it can also burn charcoal, or regular coal for longer cook times.

 

Using the charcoal feature gives you the ability to use a camp oven on top of the stove. Even without a wind screen (and it was about 42F outside) it was able to hold my Butterfly oven at 350 to 375 for over an hour on just a couple of handfuls of charcoal. And this was a busted bag of charcoal that’s been sitting on the ground outside, under my overhang for over 4 years. It is a very efficient stove and takes surprisingly little fuel to get the job done.

 

This setup lets you do things like make biscuits, cornbread, casseroles, and the like easily in an off grid environment. I’ve even boiled a chicken down and made a pot of chicken and dumpling one time at fish camp, just to see if I could. It is also powerful enough to drive a pressure canner.

 

Using it as a stick burner is a bit labor intensive, and you need to baby it a bit when cooking. It is not difficult, but you must watch it and keep fuel in the firebox. Not a big deal at all for short cooking tasks like cooking some eggs, or heating some water for coffee, or tea. There is just not much room for muti tasking, or you’ll find your fire dies down, and your cooking temps drop off. Stick burning also will soot up your cookware some, but not nearly as badly as cooking over a campfire. Charcoal and coal leave your cookware much cleaner. I deal with this by having a couple pieces of dedicated cookware for camp cooking. 

 

Fuel for it is easy to source, and you can cook entire meals on sticks and scraps that you wouldn’t waste your time loading into the woodstove in the house. The ideal size sticks for it are about the diameter of your thumb, or slightly smaller.
They don’t sell the Versa in the US anymore, as least that I can find, but there are several Chinese copycats that are virtually identical on Amazon, and eBay.

 

Edited by Juthro, 02 May 2022 - 01:49 PM.