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#1 scott_1971_h

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Posted 26 November 2018 - 12:51 AM

I'm not sure about this one, there were a few off colours on the oats, so it's outside...

I used pasteurised pea straw. Any fruits that come from it are a bonus (I was going to turf the oats due to colour...)

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Posted 26 November 2018 - 03:54 AM

I'm not sure about this one, there were a few off colours on the oats, so it's outside...

I used pasteurised pea straw. Any fruits that come from it are a bonus (I was going to turf the oats due to colour...)

Hey, where you at in the world, you spell words funny, like "coloUr" for color, and I bet you type "favourites" as well lol, just kiddin.

 

It must be warm if you expect fruits, it would freez here in the midwest U.S.(sucks). I hate cold but family is here.

 

So, those oats are full of B+? How'd you inoculate them?



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Posted 26 November 2018 - 06:40 AM

I have a B+ LC that I inoculated about a fortnight ago.

Yeah I heard about the freeze in the US. And the Tweet. Poor trumpet, he just cant win...

I tried to isolate anything that looked too ... colourful, even so I'm not expecting much, I'm kind of expecting the mycellium to plod along until Trich gets it, which is why it's outside...


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Posted 26 November 2018 - 03:41 PM

That honestly look good so far to me. Keep us updated.

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Posted 26 November 2018 - 11:38 PM

I’m curious as to how pea straw will work for you... Seems like it would be high in nitrogen.

Cereal a Straws like oat and wheat are staples. I don’t have access to pea straw and know nothing about how well it serves as a mushroom substrate.


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Posted 27 November 2018 - 02:07 AM

Yeah I thought it would have more nitrogen too I hope it doesnt become nitrogen for Trich...

Ive tried Oysters on it and they ripped through it... but they rip through anything.

Coir is really good for Kings, they love tannins (which coir has bags of)...



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Posted 27 November 2018 - 02:27 AM

If interested in coir:

https://www.maximumy...oco-coir/2/2678

Only thing it lacks is nitrogen, which most spawn is full of, or else throw some pea straw in it :-).

33% tannin is what the kings LOVE. Throw some pea straw in it and it starts looking like a square meal... at least for mushrooms.



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Posted 27 November 2018 - 03:20 AM

I have a B+ LC that I inoculated about a fortnight ago.

 Ha, you said "fortnight", you must be somewhere in Europe.

 

 I had a tiny bit of a B+ spore syringe that I nocked some BRF/water with, and I just put a tiny piece of myc from two of the three into agar, which has started groing out a tiny bit.

 

 I also made 3 "LI", or "slurry", "myc water" syringes(whatever it's called) with one of the brf/h2o/myc "pucks", though there was no visible myc, just beige, brf colored liquid, apparently they should have some alive inside.

 

 I aspirated it with 3, full, 10cc syringes of water, and got 2 full and one half full, which I'll be testing on agar, then hitting some popcorn pints, and using to make some cultures(B+) for long term keeping.

 

 I also have two B+, 1/2 pint brf jars fully colonized, that I'm gonna grate up and spawn to bulk at a 1:2:2(spawn/coir/verm) ratio, in a 6 quart "shoebox" tub, which I'll cover with foil for 10-14 days and add a top tub making a "dubtub", which work pretty good.

 

 Fae is dialed in with micropore tape and/or tyvec pieces(polyfil's ugly) and a tiny fan, across from the tubs in the grow room, blowing away, keeps some condensation in top tub and walls, grows bigger fruits than brf cakes so far for me.\

 

 Thought I'd put that in your B+ grow log.



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Posted 05 December 2018 - 11:06 PM

Colonising...

I like the rhyzomatic growth. They seem to like pea straw.

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Posted 06 December 2018 - 11:49 PM

Found this :-)

https://feedtables.c...ent/wheat-straw



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Posted 07 December 2018 - 10:09 PM

Continuing to colonise, there have been 2 days of 38 (and last night a minimum of 28)... Is there knotting? And, to anyone else who's done cube logs, will it fruit out the air holes, or do I have to cut some? 

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Posted 15 December 2018 - 12:39 AM

Yeah I thought there was some :-(

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Posted 15 December 2018 - 09:36 AM

If that's the only spot, chop off that whole top, you can save it.

Cut right through the plastic, so the green spores dont fly everywhere. Cut at least 2 or 3 inches under where it starts bc theres prob some growth inside, too.

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Posted 15 December 2018 - 10:38 PM

I was curious about the pea straw... The cubes clearly like it but how much more nutritious is it than wheat straw? Oat straw is more nutritious than wheat and I’m thinking pea maybe more than straw??

I think I speculated earlier in you thread about potentially more nitrogen... I’m just curious... The more nutritious the substrate, the higher the risk for contamination...

If it continues to contaminate in future attempts and you are going to stick with having a pea party, you could try using more spawn so the cubie myc can out run the baddies...


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Posted 15 December 2018 - 11:01 PM

I was curious about the pea straw... The cubes clearly like it but how much more nutritious is it than wheat straw? Oat straw is more nutritious than wheat and I’m thinking pea maybe more than straw??

I think I speculated earlier in you thread about potentially more nitrogen... I’m just curious... The more nutritious the substrate, the higher the risk for contamination...

If it continues to contaminate in future attempts and you are going to stick with having a pea party, you could try using more spawn so the cubie myc can out run the baddies...


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Its true peas fix nitrogen (or the symbiotic bacteria do it for the peas) but I'm not sure where the nitrogen is distributed... How much of the extra nitrogen is in the protein in the pea, and how much is in the stalks themselves, I'm not sure. Does anyone know?



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Posted 15 December 2018 - 11:12 PM

I thought peas put the nitrogen back into the soil?



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Posted 15 December 2018 - 11:31 PM

They have symbiotic bacteria that fix nitrogen but the majority is used by the growing plant. Of course if the majority of the plant, or even just the roots, is left in the ground when the season is finished, then that nitrogen is available for the soil :-).



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Posted 16 December 2018 - 11:45 PM

It might have trich, but it also has pins developing. I'm hoping they outrun the trich... And as I said, anything off this log is a bonus because I was going to turf the spawn 3 weeks ago. I'm going to draw up some peroxide into a syringe, and knock all the trich I can see back a bit. (Or should I leave it alone because any effects on the cube. mycellium?)

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 03:55 AM

The vines are rich in nitrogen. Not necessarily a good thing. Straw is typically used to balance a highly nutritious substrate and provide a water reservoir. It would need to be very well pasteurized, treated like manure.

Unless you're using a very light spawn rate, you get all the nitrogen you need from grain spawn, adding nitrogen its easy to have too much.

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Posted 17 December 2018 - 04:03 AM

It might depend if there's part of the sub that has everything except nitrogen (read: Coir) then mixing in some pea straw would probably give it 'legs' for second and third flushes. But I'll let people with more experience in here :-).






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